OT: Lamar, 5 year deal with Ravens $ 260M, $ 185M Guaranteed
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As a casual Ravens fan, I've casually followed his free agency saga. I thought he didn't have an agent(?) - or did he break down and have someone represent him?
I don't think he has one. I was throwing out some sarcasm. 260M, 185M guaranteed. Hollywood Lamar.
Momma is assistant agent!
Monken wouldn't have left Georgia unless this was certain to get done
Monken wouldn't have left Georgia unless this was certain to get done
I have never understood why these pro athletes hand over so much money to agents. If it were me I would negotiate terms then pay an attorney a realitively small fee to review the contract before I signed it.
Agents getting nervous now. This seemed like a complete mess of a negotiation from the outside but now it seems like a whole lot of nothing. Lamar got a fair contract. I feel like if you are a star player you don’t need an agent judging by this deal.
Glad the Ravens locked him up for the next 5 years, just assures that they will not win the super bowl for years to come. Lamar is a great player, but not durable and can't win in the playoffs.
After all the off-season drama and trade demands, it just goes to show it’s all about the money.
So after allowing teams to tender him a contract and nobody did…/why give him that much money? It’s clear as day he wasn’t worth the contract they gave him and they had the leverage
Now their cap space evaporated and they’ll be not able to keep but less than handful of defenders that they need ….good for bengals steeler and we’ll browns are stuck wjtb overpriced deshaun Watson
you don't even have to pay an attorney, the NFLPA provides one for free along with contract advice. lamar has full legal support from them and has known that since he was drafted but the media never talks about that as the media are all respresented by agents who might possibly not be necessary anymore. jsut like real estate agents, what a scam. they should get flat fees nto a percetnage. the agents do the same amount of work but for some reason get paid more base dont eh contracts value, not the amount of pages in it. the ravens linebacker roquan smith also signed with an agent. but agents get 3% of the contract meaning lamar would have given up $7.8MM. it may be little compared to his overall contract but that's 3% before taxes meaning if marylands state taxes are basically 6% then you add 37% fed taxes he gets $148MM after taxes and before he pays an assistant or anyone else to handle his day to day things. but if he gives up that 3% it's ends up actually being over 5% of his actual money.
Roquan Smith did the same. He got the biggest contract ever for a linebacker with no agent.
Jackson is 5-3 against the Bengals and 2-1 against Joe Burrow .. going to enjoy this matchup for years to come .. Two Franchise QB and NFL Fans win watching them play.
Also .… Lamar Jackson gave the “Agent Fee” $7.8 Million to his mother Felicia Jones … and yes Agents should be very nerves since he is now the Highest paid player in NFL History -(until Joe Burrow gets his new deal) … I know Mike Brown is dreading the ongoing negotiation with his Super Star QB.
The dirty little secret is two fold on that … NFL Teams didn’t offer because they knew the Ravens would just match any offer -(Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk and others pretty much reported this) and he was asking for the DeShaun Watson contract -(and NFL Owner did not want to give out another Fully Guaranteed $230 Million plus contract knowing Joe Burrow contract was also coming up .. they were determined to make the Cleveland Browns DeShaun Watson Contract an outlier and not the new normal).
Also he got what he is worth … just look at Daniel Jones 4 year $160 Million deal and the Ravens did not want to lose their locker room. If you don’t play your best player .. the rest of your roster will look at that organization sideways
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That is one way to look at it
But now your cap starts to erode and that good roster Lamar has surrounded him will be less…we’ll see how that pans out
not so, the qb always takes up all the cap room and limit increases every year, every single team in the league has their qb as their highest paid employee. don't hold that against lamar when every other team is the same way. and since teams can always restructure contracts i'm betting his gets redone too eventually as they spread our the cap hits over many more year. the real gist is lamar has never has a full team or a good roster to work with as baltimore doesn't focus on WR's. they focus on running and not passing. imagine if he didn't sign and went to miami with their receivers they'd be instant SB favorites. he'd be slinging and running all over the place. hopefully Bal's receivers are all healthy this year and if so lamar will probably win mvp again but he's had no one to throw to over the entire season except the TE Andrews. plus, to disprove your point again, their runnign backs have been injured every year LJ has been there, always one or two going down and having to play with backups constantly. in fact over the last two year
but the cap hit is a thing for every team. KC is going to redo mahomes. cincy is going to pay burrow and so on. so it's a moot point.
All I know is Lamar is well over paid.... He has been injured a lot the last couple years I think and if that is true no way I pay him or any QB that amount of money.... Lamar is a good QB and he is hard to tackle but just the right hit will stop him and put him on the sideline for a few games... I hope he does not get hut again but things happen on an NFL field really fast...
I don't like to see any player injured I know exactly how that feels and I would not wish that on an one... I don't understand having to re do contracts every time a player wants to... If they sign a contract for a certain amount of time for an amount they liked at the time then I would not work with them until the last year, and if they got angry and left big deal...
GBB
I don't like to see any player injured I know exactly how that feels and I would not wish that on an one... I don't understand having to re do contracts every time a player wants to... If they sign a contract for a certain amount of time for an amount they liked at the time then I would not work with them until the last year, and if they got angry and left big deal...
GBB
Agreed. Also, people forget that he wasn't exactly setting the world on fire last year before he got hurt. They were losing games to the Giants and the like, and then were squeaking by bad teams like the panthers at home with 14-9 type of scores. The ravens roster is stacked, but I see no reason to think Lamar can take them to the promised land.
Former Green Bay Packers Vice President Andrew Brandt on the Lamar Jackson deal this morning in his newsletter … he actually negotiated contracts for the Packers with players like Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre … From Former NFL Senior Executive and again Green Bay Packers Vice President Andrew Brandt:
What I’m thinking about the new deal for Lamar Jackson…
Deadlines spur action and, as it turns out, the draft was the deadline for a resolution of the two-year contract saga between Jackson and the Ravens. It was a drama that featured no traditional agent, a trade request, a franchise tag that was never signed, and more.
The reported numbers total $260 million over five years, with $185 million guaranteed, although it is not clear how much of that $185 million is a "true" guarantee rather than an injury guarantee (which has little value). Overall, the deal seems to have trade-offs similar to those in the contract done a week ago between Jalen Hurts and the Eagles. Jackson wins the competition for overall average, setting a new record of $52 million per year; the Ravens win with structure, a traditional structure with only the low-risk early years of the contract secured.
Jackson’s deal is better than that of Hurts, though, as it is a true five-year deal, compared to Hurts’ five-year extension on top of the existing year. Thus, Hurts’ total value is $259 million over 6 years; Jackson’s is $260 million over five years. And that makes sense, as Hurts’ "jumping off point" was the $4 million scheduled for this year and Jackson’s jumping off point was the franchise tag, or $32 million. Jackson, in theory, should make $28 million more than Hurts.
The larger point is the one that has now become clear: The Deshaun Watson contract appears to be an aberration. "Agented" players who signed after Watson—Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, Derek Carr, Daniel Jones, Jalen Hurts, etc.—as well as Jackson, an "unagented" player, faced the same fate with the structure of their contracts. NFL owners—whether collusive or not—play hardball, and they came out swinging against the Watson deal, banishing it to outlier status.
What I’m thinking about the new deal for Lamar Jackson…
Deadlines spur action and, as it turns out, the draft was the deadline for a resolution of the two-year contract saga between Jackson and the Ravens. It was a drama that featured no traditional agent, a trade request, a franchise tag that was never signed, and more.
The reported numbers total $260 million over five years, with $185 million guaranteed, although it is not clear how much of that $185 million is a "true" guarantee rather than an injury guarantee (which has little value). Overall, the deal seems to have trade-offs similar to those in the contract done a week ago between Jalen Hurts and the Eagles. Jackson wins the competition for overall average, setting a new record of $52 million per year; the Ravens win with structure, a traditional structure with only the low-risk early years of the contract secured.
Jackson’s deal is better than that of Hurts, though, as it is a true five-year deal, compared to Hurts’ five-year extension on top of the existing year. Thus, Hurts’ total value is $259 million over 6 years; Jackson’s is $260 million over five years. And that makes sense, as Hurts’ "jumping off point" was the $4 million scheduled for this year and Jackson’s jumping off point was the franchise tag, or $32 million. Jackson, in theory, should make $28 million more than Hurts.
The larger point is the one that has now become clear: The Deshaun Watson contract appears to be an aberration. "Agented" players who signed after Watson—Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, Derek Carr, Daniel Jones, Jalen Hurts, etc.—as well as Jackson, an "unagented" player, faced the same fate with the structure of their contracts. NFL owners—whether collusive or not—play hardball, and they came out swinging against the Watson deal, banishing it to outlier status.
Baltimore which has some of the worst slums can pay a regular season player multiple 100's of millions and this state can't snuff out a pro team from any sport. Born in the wrong decade to enjoy the ABA.
The Ravens didn't have leverage because they had no one to replace him. It's either keep the QB happy and bend over backwards, or let him walk.
I'm pretty sure the city of Baltimore doesn't pay the Ravens players. 🤔
True....but if that is the case....then why do the allowing other teams to tender him a contract and we'll have the opportunity to match fiasco?
I personally don't think Lamar is worth that contract but that point aside....there are hardly any teams in NFL has a legit backup QB to their starter. Raiders didn't have a legit one and they decided to let Derek Carr walk (good decision IMO) vs. have him take up all the cap space he was going to consume. I think Cowboys made a bad call in giving Dak his deal
Just seems like a bad place to make that huge of a commitment if you never felt that strong in him to begin with
LOL, Baltimore Ravens franchise who is not responsible for living conditions in Baltimore pay him his market value. Welcome to capitalism. He also thanks you for fighting for tax cuts for his 100’s of millions.
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