OT - ESPN has lost 7 million subscribers
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Smart TVs rarely have as great a range of apps as does something like a Roku (unless you have one based on the Roku software), an Amazon Fire TV, or the new Apple TV (although I must admit I haven't used the new Apple TV). And they also tend to lag way behind in adding new apps or updating the current apps. Plus you spent all that money for the smart features, but when you get a new TV you can't take it with you like you can when buying a Roku box. Unless you get a deal, can almost always get a dumb TV + Roku (or whatever one you want) for cheaper than a smart TV.
Not to mention their NFL obsession, which was brought about by their fear of the NFL network. I have stopped watching the NFL all together. As sad as that is, it's just turned into the same ish week after week. Then ESPN airs it 24/7. I'm ready for the NFL to take a step back and ESPN losing its rights would help on that direction.
ESPN has also turned hella political, and they only back one side. I refuse to watch any show with these types on ESPN, so therefore I never watch. The network is a mouthpeice for their politicized ideology. I mean, his and hers has discussed social engineering. No joke. ESPN has become a cesspool.
I hope they burn.
I hope they burn.
I found the article I read last month. From the Sports Business Journal
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2015/10/26/Media/ESPN.aspx
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2015/10/26/Media/ESPN.aspx
Sling TV is awesome. Have been using it since the BETA and haven't looked back.
I've got Sling TV (Base package + Sports add-on package for $26/month), Netflix ($9/month) + Amazon Prime ($99/year, averages $9/month), and HD Antenna for ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, KET, PBS (FREE). Add in my 30Mbps $56/month and my month TV/Internet spending comes in about $90/month.
I've got Sling TV (Base package + Sports add-on package for $26/month), Netflix ($9/month) + Amazon Prime ($99/year, averages $9/month), and HD Antenna for ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, KET, PBS (FREE). Add in my 30Mbps $56/month and my month TV/Internet spending comes in about $90/month.
Currently, I get the TWC basic hardwire internet ~15 a month. Net cost ~less than $50 a month with roku [no premium], slingtv [sports package and basic = +5 a month], internet. I like it. My wallet likes it 2.
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I couldn't care less about ESPN except that there's a frigging surcharge for them on my cable bill. They are poison for a cable provider who are widely viewed as even worse an entity than Monsanto.
Cable? What is this cable that you speak?
I ditched mine years ago. My Roku gets the Cat's games thanks to WACB. I have never forgiven myself for paying over a 1000 per year to get commercials and religious programming from left field. Cable made me pay for people who paid them for 60 percent of the channels that contained a 100 percent of programming devoted to selling me something I could would never buy. How many variations of Home Shopping Club are their now? 50? What a business model... Oh, and then, the county TAXED me in 10 different ways for just having that stupid wire.
I ditched mine years ago. My Roku gets the Cat's games thanks to WACB. I have never forgiven myself for paying over a 1000 per year to get commercials and religious programming from left field. Cable made me pay for people who paid them for 60 percent of the channels that contained a 100 percent of programming devoted to selling me something I could would never buy. How many variations of Home Shopping Club are their now? 50? What a business model... Oh, and then, the county TAXED me in 10 different ways for just having that stupid wire.
ESPN is the most expensive basic channel on all programming packages. From that standpoint, their drop is self-inflicted.
As many have mentioned, cable cutting is the reason for ESPN's lower subscriber count. But it's a bit of a cat and mouse game.
Cable companies are scared to death to not pay ESPN what they want, because a large percentage of remaining customers would ditch cable if ESPN went away.
There are still plenty of folks out there who haven't figured Roku out, or don't want to be bothered.
ESPN is in no hurry to go the a la cart route (as HBO has done). They think they are still making more from the passive cable customers who are locked in, than they would from the active sports fans who will always demand the programming offered only by ESPN.
Then there's the added leverage involved with the other channels owned by Disney. Like I said, cat and mouse game. And Mickey is one big mouse.
As many have mentioned, cable cutting is the reason for ESPN's lower subscriber count. But it's a bit of a cat and mouse game.
Cable companies are scared to death to not pay ESPN what they want, because a large percentage of remaining customers would ditch cable if ESPN went away.
There are still plenty of folks out there who haven't figured Roku out, or don't want to be bothered.
ESPN is in no hurry to go the a la cart route (as HBO has done). They think they are still making more from the passive cable customers who are locked in, than they would from the active sports fans who will always demand the programming offered only by ESPN.
Then there's the added leverage involved with the other channels owned by Disney. Like I said, cat and mouse game. And Mickey is one big mouse.
Streaming through the roku3 has been far superior than a Blu Ray player in my experience. I have mixed feelings however, when it comes to slingtv. Watching the ncaa tournament was awful. They simply could not handle the traffic. I could get about 3-4 minutes of coverage, before it would just stop. This happened virtually every game. Many, many people complained about this.
All sling tv would say, is that they were working to correct the problem. During the season, not too many hiccups. But tournament time, it was a nightmare. If it wasn't for BWO, I'd have been screwed. So, while it's cheaper than cable, it is not without it's problems.
Caitlyn Jenner receiving courage award may not have been so good for them either......
The issue remains that the cable companies and Internet companies are the same people.
Cut your cable, and they charge you more for Internet.
Once you pay higher Internet fees, patching together a cable subscription through sling tv is really not quite the deal it originally looks like.
I'm not saying you can't do things for less money. I'm saying that after you cobble everything together via Internet, roku, sling, online availability, and antennae, you have often gone to quite a bit of effort to get something lower quality for what is ultimately a nominal discount.
Cut your cable, and they charge you more for Internet.
Once you pay higher Internet fees, patching together a cable subscription through sling tv is really not quite the deal it originally looks like.
I'm not saying you can't do things for less money. I'm saying that after you cobble everything together via Internet, roku, sling, online availability, and antennae, you have often gone to quite a bit of effort to get something lower quality for what is ultimately a nominal discount.
Both Dan Patrick and Stephen A. Smith were DI scholarship basketball players, so you picked pretty bad examples for your "never played sports" point there. And, oh yeah, Patrick has not been on ESPN in nearly a decade, so not sure why he's the example you're choosing here.
For more than one year (4), ATT was charging me more than $45 a month for a slow DSL line. Now, I have 8x the speed with a $15 account, roku is one time expense, my antenna is a one time expense. That leaves a few $'s to spend on slingTV. Lemmings need not apply.
Cable cutting at this point is certainly not for everyone, but I can say my "cobbling" which I listed above is costing me HALF of what I was paying for the same services before I cut the cord.
Is there some hiccups every now and then, of course, but the quality I experience is very close to what I would be getting with cable or satellite.
Best part, aside from the money I save....... I'M PAYING FOR PROGRAMMING I ACTUALLY WATCH.
AT&T and Comcast provide Internet....As Comcast loses mass cable subscribers to streaming and AT&T starts losing DirecTV subscribers to streaming......, Internet costs will go up. They'll make sure to get that lost money back by jacking their internet prices up.
Don't forget about cell service, as well.
When you think about the share of wallet that ATT has compared to, say, 20 years ago, when many of us had no cell phone or Internet, it's actually somewhat staggering.
They will continue to get theirs, even if it means buying out all the competition until they dictate all the terms.
And then, there's that whole Net Neutrality white elephant sitting out there.
I don't watch ESPN except when there is a game on I want to see. I sure as hell wouldn't pay them money to subscribe to anything they might have.
The Caitlyn Jenner thing did it for me, dumbest thing I have ever heard of it getting any kind of award is just sick !
Mike Patrick is probably who he was talking about. That blubbering snotty idiot is insufferable. A bulbous fat puss filled windbag that when added to a Duke broadcast sucks all the life out of a game like a big giant black hole right in the middle of his lard assed big mouth:
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Tell us how you really feel. Now don't hold back. Let it out.Mike Patrick is probably who he was talking about. That blubbering snotty idiot is insufferable. A bulbous fat puss filled windbag that when added to a Duke broadcast sucks all the life out of a game like a big giant black hole right in the middle of his lard assed big mouth:
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That is true, but if its not Duke or Carolina MP is a pretty good commentator.
I am pretty much done with ESPN unless they are showing a game I want to watch. They can have all of their politically correct garbage.
I don't like women play by play in a man's game. The last thing I want to see on the crawler when I am waiting for a football or basketball score is soccer scores from around the world.
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I read some articles on the broadcasting industry not too long ago, and learned the fee ESPN charges for a cable company to carry them now makes up the largest single portion of most American's cable bill. So for say $40 a month one gets a huge number of stations, but the single one their paying the most for is ESPN, and a lot of people don't even care about sports. Why should they be paying for that, yet they have to in order to get the rest. ESPN could and for the most part still does command it. For now.
Streaming is the future. For me it's been the now for awhile. I know a lot are still skeptical, and it's still kind of clumsy compared to just switching channels, but the networks and some of you need to get your head out of the sand. It's been my primary form of watching TV for years. I watch what I want, when I want, and for the most part don't have to put up with ad's many of which I find insulting to my intelligence. It's a joke, but it's not that a 2 hour college basketball game has become nothing more than an 80 minute commercial with a game wedged in there somewhere. It will be the demise of TV as we now know it. They're going to have to find a better way.
Streaming is the future. For me it's been the now for awhile. I know a lot are still skeptical, and it's still kind of clumsy compared to just switching channels, but the networks and some of you need to get your head out of the sand. It's been my primary form of watching TV for years. I watch what I want, when I want, and for the most part don't have to put up with ad's many of which I find insulting to my intelligence. It's a joke, but it's not that a 2 hour college basketball game has become nothing more than an 80 minute commercial with a game wedged in there somewhere. It will be the demise of TV as we now know it. They're going to have to find a better way.
It's not just ESPN. It's the whole damn industry. Guy lost his job a couple of years ago for lightheartedly making fun of a Polish player's heritage during a March Madness game. Three times he apologized during the broadcast. His partner was Mike Gminski, who said on the air "It's okay, I'm Polish. I've got your back." Haven't seen the guy since.
What upset me the most wasn't the incident, it was the reaction to it by so many on twitter. Kyle Tucker was going off on the guy, and how he should be pulled off the air immediately.
I swear to God there is a PC cult that thinks calling someone a racist or sexist name is worse than stealing something from them. One of these days we'll see a broadcast from someone's house where the homeowner is being arrested and the burglar will be interviewed, saying "I just needed some stuff to sell for my heroin addiction, and he calls me all kinds of hurtful names." And the burglar will be awarded the guy's house. That's the way we're going.
Biased reporting and politics has hit ESPN hard. If your a sports oriented chanel don't hit on politics or religion. It's to divisive
I only watch ESPN when the cats are on. Same with the SEC Network. For you guys who have ditched cable and satellite, how do you watch games???
I watch them on my computer. All of our games are streamed live. It isn't perfect but it makes me happy that ESPN isn't getting my money.
Thanks for the recommendations cord cutters. SlingTV has a deal right now if you pay for 3 months of their best of live tv service you get 50% off a Roku3, $50 off amazon fire tv, free roku stick or free chromecast stick. So for $115 with tax, I got 3 months of tv and a roku3. Currently I spend $291.00 for cable/internet. Going to cancel internet and get the new wife to sign up for the 12 month special on internet so it will reduce my costs for the next 12 months down to about $100/mth, saving me $191/month. Not too shabby. Add in the sports pack and i'm still saving $185/month with most of the channels I watch.
My only concern is the dvr portion. I saw this channel master dvr that has dual tuner antenna built in. Anyone use these or have other recommendations for DVRs? That is my wife's one big pet peeve, not being able to record shows.
My only concern is the dvr portion. I saw this channel master dvr that has dual tuner antenna built in. Anyone use these or have other recommendations for DVRs? That is my wife's one big pet peeve, not being able to record shows.
To clarify, once the CEO announced the loss in subscribers, Disney the stock, took a hit of more than 25%. But if you believe in diversified entertainment, you really can't go wrong owning it. It has since rebounded more than 20% which provided a great buying opportunity.
As far as ESPN, I will support them because the SEC supports.them. Not that I'm about the listen to Steven A. Smith or watch PTI, believe me,
As far as ESPN, I will support them because the SEC supports.them. Not that I'm about the listen to Steven A. Smith or watch PTI, believe me,
well I love money more. I can get the channels I actually watch for about $30/month vs the $100+ I'm paying now for a bunch of channels I never watch.
Good for you, LOL. As to the post I was replying to earlier, I love when people act like ther view is the only view and anyone else seeing it differently is wrong. Pretty silly.
Yep, and it's getting worse and worse, especially on campuses. The left no longer wants free speech, they want correct speech, as they define it. What someone says is far more important than what they actually do in their eyes. And the corporate world is being bullied in to caving to their demands.
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