One top recruit and Hooker U starts talking trash...

[Cat78Scot]

SIAP

As the author points out, they don't have a leg to stand on. Obviously that doesn't make a difference to them though!

http://www.aseaofblue.com/2017/6/7/...es-kenny-johnson-throw-shade-at-john-calipari

 

[DerekMcPwn]

Wonder if Kenny knows Cal didn't even offer Bowen. Bowen probably would've broken his foot racing to accept a Kentucky offer. Instead, we got a better player at his position (Knox), who turned down $1.4 million to accept.

 

[Blueblood22]

He's right, Bowen will develop splinters in his ass when he's parked there 30 minutes every game.

That player development, baby!

 

[dckala2]

they should be more concerned about figuring out his nickname acronym.

 

[true blue1]

SIAP

As the author points out, they don't have a leg to stand on. Obviously that doesn't make a difference to them though!

http://www.aseaofblue.com/2017/6/7/...es-kenny-johnson-throw-shade-at-john-calipari

Katrina Powell say's hello!

 

[Oldbluefart]

After reading the article, I have to ask, "if Slick is so into teaching and developing his players and spending so much time with them, then how in the hell did he not know about the whores his players had waiting for them after practice"?
I used to tell people, 'if you do the same things each year and do not make changes, how do you expect different results".
In this case, seems UL is the one making some changes, going after a "OAD" since Slick's developing of players has gotten his ass kicked for the last several years by the coach who spends little time developing players but jets around the country talking about it.

 

[mebeblue2]

Bowen all but begged for an offer from UK/Cal and never got it
you have to ask yourself why Cal never wanted the kid

 

[uk78]

I don't know how someone would know anything about what a recruit was doing such as "begging." I doubt it.

The article does have some merit. Cal is future focused with recruiting and I find it hard to believe any other coach isn't. But, the article does give us insight onto how opposing coaches will try to counter Cal's recruiting style with this spin that he is off doing other things. However, if RP is truly that involved with the players then it ruins any defense that he didn't know about Minardi Hall and the strippers. Personally, I still don't think he was aware. I just can't imagine why he would need to have been involved with that. So, that tells me his involvement with the players is like most other major head coaches. They will coach the practices for the group but most of the individual drills are done by the assistants as well as the day-to-day relationship building. It is like a small Corporation and Cal is the CEO. The CEO has a chain of command and delegates, but still will hold joint meetings. I doubt there is one difference in how Cal, Rat, Williams, RP, or any major head coach handles the role.

 

[FrankUnderwood]

Wonder if Kenny knows Cal didn't even offer Bowen. Bowen probably would've broken his foot racing to accept a Kentucky offer. Instead, we got a better player at his position (Knox), who turned down $1.4 million to accept.

Knox turned down $1.4 million? What do you mean? (Honest question

 

[Cat78Scot]

Knox turned down $1.4 million? What do you mean? (Honest question

Chinese Pro team I believe.

 

[VikingCat21]

Bowen all but begged for an offer from UK/Cal and never got it
you have to ask yourself why Cal never wanted the kid

I remember this from last summer. Bowen consistently stated UK was one of his top schools and if Cal offered they would be the favorite. I don't know if I would go as far as to call it begging, but he was definitely campaigning hard for an offer. Cal never seemed interested though. He went after, and landed better options in Knox and Vanderbilt.

 

[Cat78Scot]

I don't know how someone would know anything about what a recruit was doing such as "begging." I doubt it.

The article does have some merit. Cal is future focused with recruiting and I find it hard to believe any other coach isn't. But, the article does give us insight onto how opposing coaches will try to counter Cal's recruiting style with this spin that he is off doing other things. However, if RP is truly that involved with the players then it ruins any defense that he didn't know about Minardi Hall and the strippers. Personally, I still don't think he was aware. I just can't imagine why he would need to have been involved with that. So, that tells me his involvement with the players is like most other major head coaches. They will coach the practices for the group but most of the individual drills are done by the assistants as well as the day-to-day relationship building. It is like a small Corporation and Cal is the CEO. The CEO has a chain of command and delegates, but still will hold joint meetings. I doubt there is one difference in how Cal, Rat, Williams, RP, or any major head coach handles the role.

Oh he knew. 4 years on campus in the dorm he built?! Now I do believe he just said do what you have to and keep me out of it. There's no way security and cameras were lax for no reason and he's too much of a micro manager than to just not know.

As far as coaches being CEO's, I think most are but Cal appears to create genuine connections with his players that most coaches don't. Haven't seen any coach inducted into the HOF with that many former players on stage with him.

 

[WeWant9]

And if Bowen doesn't pan out, UL will go back to the we don't need 5* or OND mentality. UL fan's opinions change with the wind.

 

[DrH. Lecter]

Katrina Powell say's hello!

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I heard from a LilBro fan that Bowen...does not like girls...not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

[80Cards86]

Someone needs to educate this writer... and most of you.

Pitino has gotten plenty of talent of Bowen's caliber before Kenny Johnson was an assistant.

Earl Clark, Wayne Blacksheer, Samardo Samuels, Chane Behanan, Peyton Siva, to name a few. All Top-25 guys/McDonalds All-Americans.

And to the poster above, talking about how Pitino is changing his recruiting style because he's been getting these so-called beat downs? Louisville beat UK last season and has a more recent nati. Just saying.

 

[Cat78Scot]

Someone needs to educate this writer... and most of you.

Pitino has gotten plenty of talent of Bowen's caliber before Kenny Johnson was an assistant.

Earl Clark, Wayne Blacksheer, Samardo Samuels, Chane Behanan, Peyton Siva, to name a few. All Top-25 guys/McDonalds All-Americans.

And to the poster above, talking about how Pitino is changing his recruiting style because he's been getting these so-called beat downs? Louisville beat UK last season and has a more recent nati. Just saying.

And how did those top players develop while there? NBA?

Take the cheating years out of the equation; how's his record in the tourney? If the NCAA does what it should that recent title argument will be gone! Back to your last title coming from the Soviet era!

 

[WeWant9]

Is winning the title one year after us, a year we beat you in the FF, really something to hang your hat on? Such an odd thing to brag about. I guess that makes Nova a better program than both UK and UL, by that logic?

 

[TBCat]

My good that was the stupidest thing I've ever heard. They spend more time developing? Really, like name one. Let's put a list of the players Cal has developed along side the list of UL first round draft picks.

 

[Bobcat94]

I would have to ask what was wrong with Bowen and his recruitment that he basically had to reach out to Louisville and ask to be recruited by them in the last hour. So it wasn't so much as Ricky doing a good job recruiting as it was something just wrong that a kid had to ask to be recruited in the last hour.

 

[80Cards86]

Didn't imply it makes Louisville the better program. But the argument being made was that due to recent (lack of) success, Pitino must have realized he had to change his recruiting approach.

I am merely saying that there is no lack of success to speak of. 3 recent final 4s, Elite 8s (or better) in 2005, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2013, 2015... it's not as if the program is in an "End of the Crum-era" slump. And a National Championship (laughable if you think the NCAA will or even should remove that... take off the blue goggles, smh).

His recruiting approach has been pretty consistent for the past decade plus, before and after Kenny Johnson coming on board.

Class rankings:

2017: #6
2016: NR
2015: #6
KENNY JOHNSON HIRED
2014: #5
2013: #5
2012: NR
2011: #3

 

[80Cards86]

I would have to ask what was wrong with Bowen and his recruitment that he basically had to reach out to Louisville and ask to be recruited by them in the last hour. So it wasn't so much as Ricky doing a good job recruiting as it was something just wrong that a kid had to ask to be recruited in the last hour.

Bowen was planning on going to MSU, but Bridges returned. Apparently he and family watched the NBA draft decisions closely, and he made a decision that was best for him. Love how people immediately assume something was wrong with him for it to come down to a late decision. Was pretty smart, if you ask me.

 

[awf]

Oh he knew. 4 years on campus in the dorm he built?! Now I do believe he just said do what you have to and keep me out of it. There's no way security and cameras were lax for no reason and he's too much of a micro manager than to just not know.

As far as coaches being CEO's, I think most are but Cal appears to create genuine connections with his players that most coaches don't. Haven't seen any coach inducted into the HOF with that many former players on stage with him.

One of Pitino's nephews lived in the dorm named after his father during part of the period of the sex shows.

 

[80Cards86]

My good that was the stupidest thing I've ever heard. They spend more time developing? Really, like name one. Let's put a list of the players Cal has developed along side the list of UL first round draft picks.

LOL... who has Cal "developed"?

The Harrison twins?

Anthony Davis? Because he really needed that semester on a college campus to be a successful NBA player. Thank God for Cal's development here.

 

[Supafuzz75]

Someone needs to educate this writer... and most of you.

Pitino has gotten plenty of talent of Bowen's caliber before Kenny Johnson was an assistant.

Earl Clark, Wayne Blacksheer, Samardo Samuels, Chane Behanan, Peyton Siva, to name a few. All Top-25 guys/McDonalds All-Americans.

And to the poster above, talking about how Pitino is changing his recruiting style because he's been getting these so-called beat downs? Louisville beat UK last season and has a more recent nati. Just saying.

Yea,, pull up what they were ranked in high school,, what they did in college,, where they were drafted and years spent in the NBA and scoring there..

 

[skcatfan]

LOL... who has Cal "developed"?

The Harrison twins?

Anthony Davis? Because he really needed that semester on a college campus to be a successful NBA player. Thank God for Cal's development here.

Oh boy you should leave this board before things get ugly for you lol. You're in way over your head little fella. And to answer your question how about Karl Anthony Towns for starters.

 

[80Cards86]

Oh boy you should leave this board before things get ugly for you lol. You're in way over your head little fella. And to answer your question how about Karl Anthony Towns for starters.

Hahaha! Now that's rich. He was the #5 player in the country coming out of HS, and is 7'0" tall. Would have been a lottery pick without the OAD rule.

Love it.

I guess a better example for you to have given would have been Skal? LMAO

 

[skcatfan]

Hahaha! Now that's rich. He was the #5 player in the country coming out of HS, and is 7'0" tall. Would have been a lottery pick without the OAD rule.

Love it.

I guess a better example for you to have given would have been Skal? LMAO

So being 7'0" tall guarantees you'll be a lottery pick? Then what happened to Stockman or why is Mahmoud going into his senior year at UofL instead of already playing in the NBA? And while Towns was considered a top 10 guy nobody at the beginning of his freshman year had him projected anywhere near the top pick in the draft.

 

[skcatfan]

Hahaha! Now that's rich. He was the #5 player in the country coming out of HS, and is 7'0" tall. Would have been a lottery pick without the OAD rule.

Love it.

I guess a better example for you to have given would have been Skal? LMAO

Plus last time I checked Skal still was drafted in the 1st round after one year at UK and had a decent rookie year. The next time that happens with anyone from UofL will be the first lmao.

 

[csrupp]

Someone needs to educate this writer... and most of you.

Pitino has gotten plenty of talent of Bowen's caliber before Kenny Johnson was an assistant.

Earl Clark, Wayne Blacksheer, Samardo Samuels, Chane Behanan, Peyton Siva, to name a few. All Top-25 guys/McDonalds All-Americans.

And to the poster above, talking about how Pitino is changing his recruiting style because he's been getting these so-called beat downs? Louisville beat UK last season and has a more recent nati. Just saying.

Both of UofL's wins against Cal and that 2013 title came with players who should have been ineligible. Add in those WWW (right Tardinal fan?) aided 80s titles and what non asterisk accomplishments does the whore house down by the river really have?

 

[80Cards86]

So being 7'0" tall guarantees you'll be a lottery pick? Then what happened to Stockman or why is Mahmoud going into his senior year at UofL instead of already playing in the NBA? And while Towns was considered a top 10 guy nobody at the beginning of his freshman year had him projected anywhere near the top pick in the draft.

Being 7ft tall and a top 5 prospect does guarantee a lottery pick. And yes, KAT was always projected as an early NBA draft pick, even while in HS. #1 overall? Maybe not. But up there.

Mahmoud and Stockman? Both were always big time projects, and everybody - including Louisville fans - is/was well aware of that.

Samuels would have been a better argument, but in reality he was an undersized C that never had F skills.

 

[*CatinIL*]

Was he talking about UL's campus???

 

[Bobcat94]

Bowen was planning on going to MSU, but Bridges returned. Apparently he and family watched the NBA draft decisions closely, and he made a decision that was best for him. Love how people immediately assume something was wrong with him for it to come down to a late decision. Was pretty smart, if you ask me.

In a interview he was quoted in saying Louisville wasn't even recruiting him and they reached out to UL to gauge interest. This is withing the last couple weeks. I'm sorry but that isn't normal for any recruit in June to up and out of nowhere to commit to a school that wasn't even considered for his services for months. Why don't you got to your own board.

 

[Supafuzz75]

LOL... who has Cal "developed"?

The Harrison twins?

Anthony Davis? Because he really needed that semester on a college campus to be a successful NBA player. Thank God for Cal's development here.

Davis and KAT were both perimeter players coming into college.. Any other school would have played them that way.. Cal forced both to be back to the basket players and wouldn't let them be perimeter players as they already could do that.. It made them better players and put both as top picks.. WCS he developed.. Josh Harrellson he developed.. He turned a midget into one of the best young pg's in the NBA right now.. Turned Booker that was a 2 year player into one of the best 2 guards in the NBA as a 6th man off the bench at UK.. Far as the Harrison's,, they were hyped too high coming out of high school.. Were great college players but didn't translate well to the league.. Andrew played pretty good this past season as a backup for Memphis.. But neither were never going to be bonified NBA stars..

 

[Cat78Scot]

Being 7ft tall and a top 5 prospect does guarantee a lottery pick. And yes, KAT was always projected as an early NBA draft pick, even while in HS. #1 overall? Maybe not. But up there.

Mahmoud and Stockman? Both were always big time projects, and everybody - including Louisville fans - is/was well aware of that.

Samuels would have been a better argument, but in reality he was an undersized C that never had F skills.

The pimp is the only coach to have the overall number 1 recruit and that player not get drafted...and it's happened twice in his career. Delray Brooks and Samardo Samuel's.

1 tournament win since 2014, nice development

 

[skcatfan]

Being 7ft tall and a top 5 prospect does guarantee a lottery pick. And yes, KAT was always projected as an early NBA draft pick, even while in HS. #1 overall? Maybe not. But up there.

Mahmoud and Stockman? Both were always big time projects, and everybody - including Louisville fans - is/was well aware of that.

Samuels would have been a better argument, but in reality he was an undersized C that never had F skills.

I could name any player that Pitino has recruited at UofL because none of them has done squat. Gorgui Dieng is the only one that I can think of that's relevant in the NBA. Pitino has recruited plenty of 5 star players but he does nothing with them. Compare that with Cal's record and it's no contest. Same thing with their head to head record.

 

[csrupp]

Earl Clark, Wayne Blacksheer, Samardo Samuels, Chane Behanan, Peyton Siva, to name a few. All Top-25 guys/McDonalds All-Americans.

Just saying.

Imagine where those guys would be had they were coached by Calipari. Blackshear was supposed to be better than Anthony Davis. Samuels was a top five recruit.

Just saying.

 

[gossie21]

The pimp is the only coach to have the overall number 1 recruit and that player not get drafted...and it's happened twice in his career. Delray Brooks and Samardo Samuel's.

1 tournament win since 2014, nice development

And whatever happened to the floodgates of 8 or 9 NBA players on his roster? With all of that individual attention he gave to those guys they must be tearing up the league now. Like that time he convinced Russ Smith to come back and learn the PG position. Or the other time he told Montrezl that if he came back for a 3rd year he would be a top-8 pick.

Pitino is a saint of a man and he always has his players' best interest in mind.

 

[JC CATS]

Being 7ft tall and a top 5 prospect does guarantee a lottery pick. And yes, KAT was always projected as an early NBA draft pick, even while in HS. #1 overall? Maybe not. But up there.

Mahmoud and Stockman? Both were always big time projects, and everybody - including Louisville fans - is/was well aware of that.

Samuels would have been a better argument, but in reality he was an undersized C that never had F skills.

So you are saying Cal only signs sure fire NBA talent? Your proof is Anthony Davis and KAT? Why not use Devin Booker, Eric Bledsoe, Josh Harrelson, Tyler Ulis, Archie Goowin? you know guys that were not suppose to be 11 and done? Guys that were not suppose to make NBA? Guys who were so small they would be here 4 years? You pick and choose. Just bc you are a Micky D AA, does not make you an automatic one and done. Ask Wayne Blackshear, Peyton Siva, Samardo Samuels, Chane Behannon, VJ King. You say i am picking and choosing now. Well tell me what 1 and done Pitino has developed? Get out of here with your nonsense. I was banned for less on your board

 

[NewHock15]

Pretty sure Samardo Samuels was the number 1 ranked recruit in his class by some services. Louisville sure developed him.

 

[WeWant9]

35-16 overall head to head
8-2 head to head since Cals arrival
12-6 head to head since Pitino joined UL
17-10 final fours
8-3 Titles

Just some of my favorite numbers to throw out to our UL friends.