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Ole Miss tearing it up in the portal. I always thought Mississippi was a poor state. Where do they get NIL money from?

Wow their fans are so dumb, Kiffin makes $8.75M-9M a year, why are they paying into NIL as well?!?!?
 
To me it’s very simple. Lane Kiffin is only one tier under the big boys. He’s proved that he can win with not so great players. I’m sure that’s motivated the boosters to “pony up” so he can get to that next level.

We’re still in the same place we were in 2016 result wise. We do have better players now but we’re still not winning any more games. This staff hasn’t shown any indication they’ll win big with even better players.

It’s like any other job, if you suck doing the smaller job that has less responsibility, why should you get the promotion and blessings..
 
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Surely we still get to hear lane kiffin's smarmy nil remarks all season....right?

Will be interesting to see. He's new school media wise but definitely old school in many other ways. We'll see how he handles players someone bought and paid for.

That's the unspoken additional problem with nil. It isn't just the insane money and bidding, it's that it's bankrolled by people most programs can't say no to. So it potentially creates an entirely new layer of problem.
 
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To me it’s very simple. Lane Kiffin is only one tier under the big boys. He’s proved that he can win with not so great players. I’m sure that’s motivated the boosters to “pony up” so he can get to that next level.

We’re still in the same place we were in 2016 result wise. We do have better players now but we’re still not winning any more games. This staff hasn’t shown any indication they’ll win big with even better players.

It’s like any other job, if you suck doing the smaller job that has less responsibility, why should you get the promotion and blessings..

Mississippi has some kind of state law that limits the length of the contract a state employee can have. This was brought up last year when he was flirting with AU, or at least his agent was, They wanted to keep him and did what they had to do with the numbers and wording of his contract, at least that was the story during that time. The founder of RealTree camo is an OM alumus and supposely big in their NIL program. It appears they are heavy into the ATM transfers and they have some good ones hitting the portal from their epic class. One has committed to Bama, another has OM and Oregon as his final 2 and I am guessing OM will be in the auction for Evan Stewart. But ATM's players don't seem too excited about the new hire, at least some of their top end guys. AU is investing more on the HS lvl and they are spending big.

From reading other sites, it appears this signing day is going to be exciting one with several last minute mind changes. If I were a kid not sure I would sign early, the longer you on the market the higher the bidding will go.
 
Very funny how the likes of you and your ilk pretend not one but 2 10-3 seasons where we were ranked top 25 all year never ever happened
You do realize that first 10 win season will be 6 years as of next year? The second one will have been 3 years.

You need to get your head out of the sand. After these last two years, the next 10 win season feels like a million years away
 
What I don't understand, is how all of these other SEC or P5 programs, even from rather Non-Traditional powers like Ole Miss or South Carolina, etc. have all of these billionaire or High powered money people in their halls. They have Founders of this, Founders of that, Owners of this, Owners of that, who love their Alma Maters and pump millions into them. I don't know if it's just us historically being a bad football school and all of those people pumping their dollars towards the basketball program or what, but even then, those guys are pretty limited. We have Joe Craft, and that's about it. We can only tap that well so many times. Surely the States flagship University has produced SOME Founders or Owners of some big corporations that can be tapped? Surely the football programs relative recent success would spurn some of these people into wanting to take it to the next level. Hell, UofL has a number of High dollar alumni they can tap for these sorts of things.

I guess it does have to come down to Mitch not finding and tapping those resources on our part, which is a shame. If he won't do that himself, they need to set up a fundraising arm of the department and hire a slick salesperson to get out there and find those successful alum and get them on board.
 
What I don't understand, is how all of these other SEC or P5 programs, even from rather Non-Traditional powers like Ole Miss or South Carolina, etc. have all of these billionaire or High powered money people in their halls. They have Founders of this, Founders of that, Owners of this, Owners of that, who love their Alma Maters and pump millions into them. I don't know if it's just us historically being a bad football school and all of those people pumping their dollars towards the basketball program or what, but even then, those guys are pretty limited. We have Joe Craft, and that's about it. We can only tap that well so many times. Surely the States flagship University has produced SOME Founders or Owners of some big corporations that can be tapped? Surely the football programs relative recent success would spurn some of these people into wanting to take it to the next level. Hell, UofL has a number of High dollar alumni they can tap for these sorts of things.

I guess it does have to come down to Mitch not finding and tapping those resources on our part, which is a shame. If he won't do that himself, they need to set up a fundraising arm of the department and hire a slick salesperson to get out there and find those successful alum and get them on board.
Barnhart doesn’t strike me as a guy that looks at it as a priority to go out there and build relationships with boosters. There are big alumni out there that would donate, but Barnhart doesn’t feel the need to build a relationship with them
 
I live in MS now, and I am high up in a large bank in Jackson. MS as a state is a lot like Eastern Kentucky. The overall state is poor but the people who have money really have money. In fact I know a couple of billionaire families that all support Ole Miss. in fact one of them has a chain retail store and the managers job in Oxford used to include going to the grove and handing out cash as the players walked by.
 
What I don't understand, is how all of these other SEC or P5 programs, even from rather Non-Traditional powers like Ole Miss or South Carolina, etc. have all of these billionaire or High powered money people in their halls. They have Founders of this, Founders of that, Owners of this, Owners of that, who love their Alma Maters and pump millions into them. I don't know if it's just us historically being a bad football school and all of those people pumping their dollars towards the basketball program or what, but even then, those guys are pretty limited. We have Joe Craft, and that's about it. We can only tap that well so many times. Surely the States flagship University has produced SOME Founders or Owners of some big corporations that can be tapped? Surely the football programs relative recent success would spurn some of these people into wanting to take it to the next level. Hell, UofL has a number of High dollar alumni they can tap for these sorts of things.

I guess it does have to come down to Mitch not finding and tapping those resources on our part, which is a shame. If he won't do that himself, they need to set up a fundraising arm of the department and hire a slick salesperson to get out there and find those successful alum and get them on board.
Thing about states like Miss, Bama...there is nothing else that people can or want to spend their money on.

Also, I think it's important to realize that it's not just "billionaires." There's only a few of those generally speaking and I've said in another post that I do not think billionaires are into paying players. They've built the facilities for athletics and academics, given to scholarships, pay the coaches' salaries/buyouts. Alot of them already own sports franchises and have legit athletes on payroll that they will make money off of.

A lot of money I think is probably coming from the local regional wealth that can't quite buy a sports franchise or pay for a 200 million facility. But they have money and ego just the same and want to be involved...can pay couple hundred thousand to a couple million for some portal talent.

The fast-food franchise owners, the local/regional bankers, the car dealers, the lawyers (heavy hitters, Morgan n Morgan), specialized doctors (plastic surgeons, ENTs, cardiac, oncologists), construction families, etc... I think that's where a lot of NIL money is coming from, guys who have probably been giving here and there to general funds, but now with NIL they can really direct their funds to players pockets.

We'll know when the billionaires get involved. All the Wal-Mart heirs went to Arkansas and so did Jerry Jones...Hogs will become a title contender overnight...but like I said they already own pro sports franchises and built half the facilities athletic and academic on that Campus. Legacy shit they can put their names on and write off on taxes. If a player is worth paying Jerry, the guy who owns the Rams and married a Walton, and the other Waltons who own the Broncos will draft them.

UK has that kind of wealth and it's been involved forever, but with basketball. All those "blue hairs" that sit, knit, and read the paper at Rupp that everyone likes to complain about...that's them. That's your local/regional wealth. That's who you're wanting to cough up more money.

Also, Barnhart has tapped them...that's who he wiped out 10,000 seats, built suits for, and allowed to drink alcohol while no one else could until this year...and caught flack for it. "Only the rich can drink...only the rich can park close...ole Mitch likes the rich" they said...

Well guess what, they built him a football only facility, and are going to start giving to the collective.

It's not that Mitch hasn't tapped them. It's that things are in the wild west phase right now and Mitch isn't going to do anything that may not be on the up and up. As it becomes clearer as how kids can get paid...the UK money will flow.
 
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Kiffin has a (relatively) easy schedule next season and will have a good portal team. Looking at 10+ wins, an expanded playoff appearance, and then leaving to become Florida's head coach ;)
 
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Barnhart doesn’t strike me as a guy that looks at it as a priority to go out there and build relationships with boosters. There are big alumni out there that would donate, but Barnhart doesn’t feel the need to build a relationship with them
Then why did boosters demand that UK name the athletic complex on Alumni Drive after Barnhart?

Barnhart has done very well with building relationships with boosters, which is why we’ve been able to leverage those boosters to make all of the facility upgrades during Barnhart’s tenure here.
 
Kiffin has a (relatively) easy schedule next season and will have a good portal team. Looking at 10+ wins, an expanded playoff appearance, and then leaving to become Florida's head coach ;)
Why would he leave to go to Fla? Unless he doesn't like living in Mississippi, his program is better than Florida's.
 
UK football doesn't need 1 or 2 billionaires

UK football needs a competent effective collective that gets 50,000 dedicated fans who give in average $100 a year. Just for football. That's $5M, what I've heard media & recruiting folks say is the minimum yearly amt now needed in 2023-2024 to build a top 20 talented roster.
 
I don't put all the blame on the fans tho. Our NIL "The 15 Club" never gets promoted by our AD and only has like 1.4k followers on Twitter.

Our AD is a joke. That's why it's happening. He's not a leader, he's a loser.
They don’t give to NIL because of our AD. There’s always an excuse and a finger pointed elsewhere. Ole Miss fans stepped up. Kentucky fans made excuses, blamed Mitch Barnhart, blamed JMI, blamed Mark Stoops while bragging about not giving a dime to a collective.
 
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UK football doesn't need 1 or 2 billionaires

UK football needs a competent effective collective that gets 50,000 dedicated fans who give in average $100 a year. Just for football. That's $5M, what I've heard media & recruiting folks say is the minimum yearly amt now needed in 2023-2024 to build a top 20 talented roster.
I know a guy personally who gives around that every year to Ole Miss. He gets a huge tax write off.
 
I know a guy personally who gives around that every year to Ole Miss. He gets a huge tax write off.
We could use a few of those I am sure we have enough business owners that we could pull this off, between bourbon and horse farms. Not to mention the other business with headquarters in KY.
 
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