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How embarassing to get whipped all night long by an FCS school [sick] 3 years into it and we still get dominated most games and never know where the pressure is coming from. Schlarman needs to go back to Troy where he belongs and let's get a real OL coach in here.
 
I know right. Here we sit at 1-4 and 0-3 in the SEC.
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No kidding. We won the damn game. Was it pretty, hell no. Did it look like we were gonna lose, hell yes. So many were on here saying they were done with coach stoops when we were down 2 tds. Even had we lost this program has been through far worse games and lost to teams they should of beat so many times. Let the season play out before we get the fire coach stoops threads going. I personally hope he stays and gets more time as i believe most people do. Last night could of been embarrassing but just look at it and say at least we aint texas :joy:
 
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Mosier is a liability at left tackle. Spence ate him alive all night. He is a guard, and clearly not fast enough to play LT. why are we starting a former walkon at the most important Oline position? Tate Leavitt can't get here fast enough....
 
You do know that the entire left side of the OL was out with injuries and that UKs best RB did not play.

This is the answer. Also, EKU has a sure fire pro player at defensive end, and EKU had everything to gain and nothing to lose. They played a monster football game. Kind of like Indiana did against number one Ohio State, and State had it's full compliment of players.
 
Has anyone watched Dubose in action enough to judge whether he might flip to OL, and specifically LT?
 
Mosier is a liability at left tackle. Spence ate him alive all night. He is a guard, and clearly not fast enough to play LT. why are we starting a former walkon at the most important Oline position? Tate Leavitt can't get here fast enough....
Agreed...for all the Swindle haters (and I'm not a big fan)...we need him back in the worst way.
 
Agreed...for all the Swindle haters (and I'm not a big fan)...we need him back in the worst way.
Id take a false start or two over what Mosier did last night. Everyone is criticizing Towles, but IMO he played pretty good considering he was running for his life all night
 
As usual, the casual observer has no clue about OL play. The OL didnt play well. Lets get that out of the way. The run game wasnt effective, but they also didnt get many carries. The offense spent the entire night trying to get Towles untracked.

When run plays were called, Kemp tried to bounce everything rather than hit the hole and run hard, which was how he won back the starting position. This cost the team at least 2 first downs I can think of. Horton reverted back to running high. Just not a good night for either

QB was just a disaster till the last few minutes. Towles reverted back to holding the ball too long. He also reverted back to trying to roll out and outrun a pass rusher rather than step up in the pocket. This resulted in at least 1 or two sacks. A few other times he rolled out and just ran out of bounds or was chased down although he had ample time to throw it away.

When an opposing team blitzes, Towles MUST recognize it and get rid of the ball. It doesnt matter what protection scheme is in place for that play, nothing is designed that will protect the QB for extended periods in the face of a blitz.
 
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Mosier is a liability at left tackle. Spence ate him alive all night. He is a guard, and clearly not fast enough to play LT. why are we starting a former walkon at the most important Oline position? Tate Leavitt can't get here fast enough....

To be fair, Spence was a 5 star and one of the best players on OSU's defense against a walk on. Also to be fair you should be able to adjust and not let one high caliber player beat you and why is a walk on our starter in the first place. If Tate Leavitt and Landon Young aren't turned off enough to come here now, they're going to be a major get and I think will make this team look a lot better.
 
How embarassing to get whipped all night long by an FCS school [sick] 3 years into it and we still get dominated most games and never know where the pressure is coming from. Schlarman needs to go back to Troy where he belongs and let's get a real OL coach in here.[/
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As usual, the casual observer has no clue about OL play. The OL didnt play well. Lets get that out of the way. The run game wasnt effective, but they also didnt get many carries. The offense spent the entire night trying to get Towles untracked.

When run plays were called, Kemp tried to bounce everything rather than hit the hole and run hard, which was how he won back the starting position. This cost the team at least 2 first downs I can think of. Horton reverted back to running high. Just not a good night for either

QB was just a disaster till the last few minutes. Towles reverted back to holding the ball too long. He also reverted back to trying to roll out and outrun a pass rusher rather than step up in the pocket. This resulted in at least 1 or two sacks. A few other times he rolled out and just ran out of bounds or was chased down although he had ample time to throw it away.

When an opposing team blitzes, Towles MUST recognize it and get rid of the ball. It doesnt matter what protection scheme is in place for that play, nothing is designed that will protect the QB for extended periods in the face of a blitz.
Casual observer, yea right. I am a die hard fan like most on here and I have been saying for a long time that Schlarman needs to go. No reason at all for us to get pushed around the way we did against an FCS school and this happens against almost every team we play regardless of opponent. So no, I don't think this is a stupid thread. I think it's justifiable criticism about a coach who is way in over his head.
 
One would presume Towles is being coached to step up in the pocket to avoid outside pressure(if he's not that's another thread altogether). So the question becomes is he not listening to his coaches, does he panic and revert to what comes naturally or what?
 
The O-line is bad. Worst area on the whole team. However, Dawson must account for this and run quick hitting counter running plays and to force their D-line to adjust. You can't run the read option when the QB is not a threat to keep it and run. Also, use some screen passes to slow down their rush. Dawson doesn't seem to adjust well in-game IMO so far.
 
How embarassing to get whipped all night long by an FCS school [sick] 3 years into it and we still get dominated most games and never know where the pressure is coming from. Schlarman needs to go back to Troy where he belon and let's get a real OL coach in here.
not the biggest fan of Schlarmans , but you cannot run a donkey in the derby. Size is great, but if you are really slow and not quick it is a waste. There in lies our problem. Till that is taken care of thru recruiting we are going to have a problem
 
:angry: Bottom line the team was not prepaired to play this game.This sort of thing happensto a lot of teams. hopefully our young coaching staff learns from this one!!! I love our staff but there is no other place to go with this one.Instead of working on how much playing time backups might get, let's focus on winning the game first. That is all!!!
 
Casual observer, yea right. I am a die hard fan like most on here and I have been saying for a long time that Schlarman needs to go. No reason at all for us to get pushed around the way we did against an FCS school and this happens against almost every team we play regardless of opponent. So no, I don't think this is a stupid thread. I think it's justifiable criticism about a coach who is way in over his head.

The whole team was getting dominated for 3.75 quarters. Not just the OL. Congrats on watching football for awhile. But that doesnt mean you understand OL play.

No, this doesnt happen agaisnt "almost every team we play". In case you missed it, we ground out the remainder of the clock against Mizzou, EVEN THOUGH everyone on the planet knew we were going to run it every down.

This OL is far from the best. They deserve heat, along with many other players. But they dont deserve alot of the heat they catch on pass protection.

The O-line is bad. Worst area on the whole team. However, Dawson must account for this and run quick hitting counter running plays and to force their D-line to adjust. You can't run the read option when the QB is not a threat to keep it and run. Also, use some screen passes to slow down their rush. Dawson doesn't seem to adjust well in-game IMO so far.

We run these plays. The draws have been successful all season. Screen passes have been an adventure. For whatever reason, Towles usually throws these over the head of the RB. Although every time theyve been called, theyve been wide open.

Most hot throws that have been called, result in Towles holding the ball and taking a sack or getting hurried.

One would presume Towles is being coached to step up in the pocket to avoid outside pressure(if he's not that's another thread altogether). So the question becomes is he not listening to his coaches, does he panic and revert to what comes naturally or what?

Im fairly certain hes being coached to step up. You can tell because on many of the sacks hes taken, the OT looks pretty surprised/frustrated, because the OT did his job by pushing the rusher upfield. Against Mizzou, the ball came out on time. He used his mobility to step upfield, which bought him more time and let him gain yards.

It looks like a bad habit, because he reverts back to not stepping up whenever hes playing poorly.
 
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How embarassing to get whipped all night long by an FCS school [sick] 3 years into it and we still get dominated most games and never know where the pressure is coming from. Schlarman needs to go back to Troy where he belongs and let's get a real OL coach in here.
Shocking lack of football knowledge about UK's line. I'm not inferring they played well-they flat out did not.
 
You do know that the entire left side of the OL was out with injuries and that UKs best RB did not play.

That allows the rest of the defense to focus on the right. The lack of balance made EVERYTHING weaker.

This week was the exception, not the rule. And it was a win

Everybody back for Auburn?
 
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