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Ok, who is our starting quarterback?

I've read from multiple sources on twitter that both QB's looked strong today but Barker had two picks. I think Barker is prone to going for the home run and that gets him in trouble sometimes. Both QB's were launching 40-50 yard bombs for TDs
 
Originally posted by Smashcat:
Fwiw Jen Smith said Towles strong today. His job to lose. Curious to hear other takes.
Truth. Clear cut. Accuracy, strength.
 
It should be Towles without much debate, but they need to keep pumping up Barker to make him better and to keep Towles from getting complacent. Barker needs to mature a little in my opinion. Towles isn't the one out getting his name drug through the mud by getting in bar fights and causing public disturbances with air soft guns. Despite the outcomes of either of those incidents, they are still black marks that show a lack of maturity for someeone being counted on to be a leader.
 
I think until Barker can prove that he can keep himself out of bad situations off the field, we should keep the reigns in the hands of Towles. Not saying he's a bad kid or that he's not as good as Towles, but the last thing we need while trying to build ourselves is a starting quarterback that found himself in trouble twice in one season, regardless of intent.
 
Patrick Towles looked totally in control today. He was poised in the pocket and threw the ball well to all parts of the field. His deep balls were the best ones he threw. His only shortcoming was getting the ball blocked 3 times. However, that had a lot to do with the DE's strong pass rush.

Drew Barker looked pretty good as well. He was great on the out patterns as well as the deep ball. He was a little more tentative throwing in the middle 3rd of the field. He also threw a couple of picks and had 1 batted in the air and picked off. He just needs more time and he has all of the tools to be great.

I was extremely pleased with how both QB's performed today.
 
Originally posted by Grumpyolddawg:

Originally posted by jnewc2:
I would say it's about 60/40 Towles to Barker at this point, but who really knows outside the coaching staff. We can't forget that we've seen a lot of major jumps for QB's over the summer as well (as when Pulley led Woodson in the spring before Woodson's junior year).

Honestly, I just think if all things were even I would rather have Towles simply for the fact that the year he spent as a starter in the SEC was invaluable. It's just so, so hard, and so so rare for a red-shirt freshman QB who hasn't started or played in a single game to come in and have success. I think Towles will give us the best chance to win if he and the offensive line improve like I hope they did this offseason.
Nothing replaces experience, when that experience is as physically talented as Towles is it will be really tough for Barker or anyone else with zero experience to beat him out, at least that's what I think. Unless he comes in gun shy from all the hits he took last year he should come out on top in this qb battle. Not very often a RS overcomes a returning starter, kid redshirted for a reason, if he were the best last fall he would very likely played.
I completely agree
 
Yea ,more upside.......try staying out of trouble for a semester.....happy feet
 
Originally posted by Smashcat:
Fwiw Jen Smith said Towles strong today. His job to lose. Curious to hear other takes.
I did not think either guy was awesome today but totally agree it is Towles' job to lose. It was pretty difficult to see things from field level with a bunch of media, visitors and players standing in front of you. You can always find plays to praise and plays to critique. Both guys made some good throws and some bad ones but I thought, overall, the offense moved the ball better with Towles. Barker had 2 picks but 1 was a tipped ball.

Practice overall seemed to focus on the passing game. Play of the day was a long ball down the left sideline by Towles and a great over the (other) shoulder catch by Bone.

One thing is for sure...the QB will not be running the ball much this year.
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I like them both but both are still inconsistent, it's going to be a battle because both show signs of being very good sometimes.
 
Originally posted by WildCard:
I did not think either guy was awesome today but totally agree it is Towles' job to lose. It was pretty difficult to see things from field level with a bunch of media, visitors and players standing in front of you. You can always find plays to praise and plays to critique. Both guys made some good throws and some bad ones but I thought, overall, the offense moved the ball better with Towles. Barker had 2 picks but 1 was a tipped ball.

Practice overall seemed to focus on the passing game. Play of the day was a long ball down the left sideline by Towles and a great over the (other) shoulder catch by Bone.

One thing is for sure...the QB will not be running the ball much this year.
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You guys had a scrimmage today and you drove to Lex for ours? What's your motivation? I follow at least 10-15 media members on Twitter that were all there today and they had glowing reports of the QB play today minus Barker's three bonehead plays so I tend to believe your nuke warm review is fueled by hate. I've not read great reviews of your offense. A UL beat writer called your OL play horrendous today, Fergusen was supposed to unseat Bonnafon and hasn't been able to. I know I'm biased but I'd take our two QB's over your 7 all day
 
Originally posted by CATFANFOLIFE87:

Originally posted by WildCard:
I did not think either guy was awesome today but totally agree it is Towles' job to lose. It was pretty difficult to see things from field level with a bunch of media, visitors and players standing in front of you. You can always find plays to praise and plays to critique. Both guys made some good throws and some bad ones but I thought, overall, the offense moved the ball better with Towles. Barker had 2 picks but 1 was a tipped ball.

Practice overall seemed to focus on the passing game. Play of the day was a long ball down the left sideline by Towles and a great over the (other) shoulder catch by Bone.

One thing is for sure...the QB will not be running the ball much this year.
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You guys had a scrimmage today and you drove to Lex for ours? What's your motivation? I follow at least 10-15 media members on Twitter that were all there today and they had glowing reports of the QB play today minus Barker's three bonehead plays so I tend to believe your nuke warm review is fueled by hate. I've not read great reviews of your offense. A UL beat writer called your OL play horrendous today, Fergusen was supposed to unseat Bonnafon and hasn't been able to. I know I'm biased but I'd take our two QB's over your 7 all day
It was the last/only chance to see the Cats play; I suspect all the fall works will be closed. I have seen the Cards practice multiple times, they still have a spring game to play and they usually have a couple of open practices in early fall. Besides my daughter lives in Lexington and I had a quick visit with her and the grandkids (she and one of her brothers are UK alums). I've have made it clear on multiple occasions that I will pull for the Cards head to head but will pull for the Cats otherwise. I started going to UK games back in the Bradshaw era. I no longer have season tix but I still make a few games each year. As a football fan and UofL alumnus I was happy to see them finally get serious about football, i.e., hire Howard Schnellenberger.

As for the "media members", not all media members are created equal. Some know their stuff and some don't. The only thing that separates some of these guys from you and me is they have a forum and a press pass and we don't. I guarantee you there are some fans on this board that know football better than many of the media guys.

And my "nuke warm review" was filled with hate? Wow! I did not say anybody sucked. The only thing that sucked was one could not see the full field, just narrow, sideline ground level windows through the crowd. Even a "front row" position meant looking through or around players and sideline "visitors".

Both QBs threw some nice deep balls and both guys missed some throws I think they "should" have hit. And I'm not the least bit sure of what was done against the #1 defense. Again it was hard to see; most of the time the only indication of complete or not was to see if the chains moved. On that point, it "seemed to me" that Towles did a better job moving the chains. With me, that rates a solid performance overall but not a "glowing review". What I think does not matter but what Stoops thinks does and his post game comments seemed along the same lines, i.e., "improving, getting better". That sounds more "solid" than "glowing". I think perhaps some fans (and maybe some media guys) got too excited over the vertical passing that was conspicuously absent last year.

I'm not sure where you get your information about UofL but, if you live in town, maybe you should come to a UofL practice and see for yourself? You know, like I did for UK.
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IMO, Louisville is actually having a bigger QB competition than is UK. Barring injury, I'm pretty sure Towles is the guy but it has been day to day between Bonnafon and Bolin.

CBP acts like there is no hurry to "name" a QB but that ain't his style; I think he is disappointed that somebody has not truly separated himself from the others. Apparently Bonnafon had a good scrimmage yesterday. Fans have occasionally gone ga-ga over Ferguson's arm strength (it's a cannon) but he has clearly been behind the other 2 in accuracy and overall execution of the offense.

I did not see where a beat writer called the Cards O-line "horrendous". That sound more like fan talk than writer talk. But in a CJ article CBP did say: "the RBs had a pretty good day" and that usually means the O-line had a pretty good day as well. However, it is no secret that O-line play (and secondary play) will again be the major question mark for the Cards. It is hard to make any offense work without at least average O-line play. On that point, I will add this about Cats; it appeared the O-line protected well; I can only think of a few times when the QB pulled it down or likely would have been sacked in real game.


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Originally posted by WildCard:


CBP acts like there is no hurry to "name" a QB but that ain't his style; I think he is disappointed that somebody has not truly separated himself from the others. Apparently Bonnafon had a good scrimmage yesterday. Fans have occasionally gone ga-ga over Ferguson's arm strength (it's a cannon) but he has clearly been behind the other 2 in accuracy and overall execution of the offense.

I did not see where a beat writer called the Cards O-line "horrendous". That sound more like fan talk than writer talk. But in a CJ article CBP did say: "the RBs had a pretty good day" and that usually means the O-line had a pretty good day as well. However, it is no secret that O-line play (and secondary play) will again be the major question mark for the Cards. It is hard to make any offense work without at least average O-line play. On that point, I will add this about Cats; it appeared the O-line protected well; I can only think of a few times when the QB pulled it down or likely would have been sacked in real game.


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Who cares? Post this bilge on your own site.
 
Originally posted by buckkiller:
Barker more upside more talent and does not have happy feet in pocket.
I try not to reply to silly, uneducated posts, but this one garnered some special attention.

More upside? Hmm..let's see, Towles was absolutely dominant as a high school player and was rated as one of the top QB's in the nation coming out of high school..actually if you asked an NFL scout, without hesitating they would say that Towles has more "upside"...his measurables are all through the roof (even better than Barker's in virtually every category) and he has a competitiveness and will to win that you just can't teach..he has barely even scratched the surface to what he's capable of as a QB. In his first year as a sophomore starter he was one of the SEC's leading passers behind an offensive line that gave up 36 sacks...our own offensive coordinator (who has been around some fairly decent QB's) said Towles has the strongest arm that he's ever been around..let me say that again..THE STRONGEST ARM THAT HE'S EVER BEEN AROUND

Oh..and happy feet? I just hate "happy feet"..the characteristic that no one even noticed about Towles until the genius that is Andre Ware noted it in the broadcast of the ULM game (where Towles happened to light ULM on fire and complete spectacular play after spectacular play that were on SportsCenter's top 10 play's of the entire college football season).

Know who else has "happy feet"? A couple of guys named Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, and Drew Brees (among others). You kind of need "happy feet" when your playing behind an offensive line that gives up 4 sacks a game. If "happy feet" leads to a guy being one of the best QB's in the SEC in his first year as a sophomore starter (with a mediocre at best supporting cast around him) I'll take it every day of the week and twice on Sunday. The "happy feet" is a footwork technique he was taught by QB guru George Whitfield. Does he get a little too choppy back there sometimes? Probably. But I think anyone would be in their first year as a starter in the SEC behind one of the worst OL's in the nation. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but with our OL, we're going to need a guy with "happy feet" because unless our line play has improved DRAMATICALLY, we need a guy that can escape the pocket virtually every other play when protection breaks down early.
This post was edited on 4/12 10:00 PM by jnewc2
 
Originally posted by mrschwump:
Originally posted by WildCard:


CBP acts like there is no hurry to "name" a QB but that ain't his style; I think he is disappointed that somebody has not truly separated himself from the others. Apparently Bonnafon had a good scrimmage yesterday. Fans have occasionally gone ga-ga over Ferguson's arm strength (it's a cannon) but he has clearly been behind the other 2 in accuracy and overall execution of the offense.

I did not see where a beat writer called the Cards O-line "horrendous". That sound more like fan talk than writer talk. But in a CJ article CBP did say: "the RBs had a pretty good day" and that usually means the O-line had a pretty good day as well. However, it is no secret that O-line play (and secondary play) will again be the major question mark for the Cards. It is hard to make any offense work without at least average O-line play. On that point, I will add this about Cats; it appeared the O-line protected well; I can only think of a few times when the QB pulled it down or likely would have been sacked in real game.


Peace
Who cares? Post this bilge on your own site.
Disagree.

One of a very few Card fans that is also a Wildcat fan IMO and he does furnish some good info, even some about the enemy. Anyone that can tolerate jurich and his overt cheating is suspect, maybe a gene defect there which seems to be common in Louisville, but he does add something to the site, again, JMO. Besides, he does have an engineering degree which proves to me he can think logically------although his bias has to color his judgement.
 
I always read WILDCARDS post.l I think he adds to our board. I am sure he will say I do not always agree with his post but I do not find him a hate monger like so man UofL fans that frequent this board and he doesn't deny being a UofL fan like some of their trolls we get on our board.

I don't buy the I am a fan of both teams but like I said I don't think he hates the Cats. He seems educated which is a major up grad over most of the ignorant UofL trash we get on this board.
 
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