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offense review- Louisville game

Feb 25, 2009
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I waited 30 days to let emotion wear off before studying the UK offense vs UofL. a couple of observations from the video alone:
Williams was the 2nd best player on the field behind Parker.UK blockers (whether tackle, pulling guard or H back could not neutralize the UofL 5 techniques. There are several below you will see. Neal Brown had to be sick following this game. There is much disdain for the screen and swing passes from UK ( I am/was in the group and thus waited 30 days to objectively review.) But the way the defense aligned these calls should have resulted in very positive yardage.play #4 the wr dropped a now screen where UK had a 3 on 1 numbers advnatageplay # 11 the wr saved a bad throw and still was able to get 8. a good throw would have been a TDplay # 21 a low throw and a drop where UK again had a 3 on 1 numbers advantage.
Collectively, too many parts did not execute to a meaningful height resulting in too many plays not meeting their potential. I have hyperlinked a few of the plays to clips and or comments

I will post the 2nd half breakdown if there is any interest.

# play comment +/-
1 tunnel screen well defended +4
2 jet counter Heard ran outside 0
3 smash bad QB read 0
* punt * *
4 NOW Robinson dropped 0
5 IZ Boom +42
6 IZ (inverted veer) Swindle could not get off combo and LB made tackle +1
7 Mesh receiver never broke cushion of CB. nearly picked +8
8 Y Sail overthrown out of endzone 0
* FG * *
9 IZ Boom bounces it 18
10 QB trap 5 tech beat the kickout block 0
11 WR swing Robinson saved bad throw +8
12 OZ Boom made man miss +4
13 wildcat H back whiffed on LB block -2
14 RB inside trap Boom outstanding cutback after clearing hole +6 TD
* TD * *
15 IZ 5 tech crossed face of OT and guard let him go too -1
16 rb swing OLB unblocked made tackle +2
17 empty Y stick bad pass/incomplete 0
* punt * *
18 scramble williams drop 0
19 jet sweep into boundary. no reach block 0
20 invert smash QB left frontside and check down TE +3
* punt * *
21 tunnel screen drop by #9- low throw by #14 0
22 IZ Read QB give- nice read +7
* half * *
 
Originally posted by adolph rollingover:
I waited 30 days to let emotion wear off before studying the UK offense vs UofL. a couple of observations from the video alone:


Williams was the 2nd best player on the field behind Parker.
UK blockers (whether tackle, pulling guard or H back could not neutralize the UofL 5 techniques. There are several below you will see.
Neal Brown had to be sick following this game. There is much disdain for the screen and swing passes from UK ( I am/was in the group and thus waited 30 days to objectively review.) But the way the defense aligned these calls should have resulted in very positive yardage.
play #4 the wr dropped a now screen where UK had a 3 on 1 numbers advnatage
play # 11 the wr saved a bad throw and still was able to get 8. a good throw would have been a TD
play # 21 a low throw and a drop where UK again had a 3 on 1 numbers advantage.
Collectively, too many parts did not execute to a meaningful height resulting in too many plays not meeting their potential. I have hyperlinked a few of the plays to clips and or comments

I will post the 2nd half breakdown if there is any interest.

# play comment +/-
1 tunnel screen well defended +4
2 jet counter Heard ran outside 0
3 smash bad QB read 0
* punt * *
4 NOW Robinson dropped 0
5 IZ Boom +42
6 IZ (inverted veer) Swindle could not get off combo and LB made tackle +1
7 Mesh receiver never broke cushion of CB. nearly picked +8
8 Y Sail overthrown out of endzone 0
* FG * *
9 IZ Boom bounces it 18
10 QB trap 5 tech beat the kickout block 0
11 WR swing Robinson saved bad throw +8
12 OZ Boom made man miss +4
13 wildcat H back whiffed on LB block -2
14 RB inside trap Boom outstanding cutback after clearing hole +6 TD
* TD * *
15 IZ 5 tech crossed face of OT and guard let him go too -1
16 rb swing OLB unblocked made tackle +2
17 empty Y stick bad pass/incomplete 0
* punt * *
18 scramble williams drop 0
19 jet sweep into boundary. no reach block 0
20 invert smash QB left frontside and check down TE +3
* punt * *
21 tunnel screen drop by #9- low throw by #14 0
22 IZ Read QB give- nice read +7
* half * *
All this is pretty much meaningless IF the int is not dropped...we win
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Originally posted by adolph rollingover:




# play comment +/-
1 tunnel screen well defended +4

4 NOW Robinson dropped 0




Here are the looks for Play #1 and play #4. both have good angles and numbers advantage. Play #1 was defeated by the 5 technique who came upfield then retreated back to make the tackle. Play #4 was defeated by a dropped pass. notice the use of trips to determine play call. there are 7 in the run box and the single receiver has soft coverage
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[/URL]. So a hitch to the single receiver side or a 3 on 2 advantage on the now screen side. Should have been a minimum 5 yards on first down. Instead it was dropped and the fans complain about "sideways" passing.
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This post was edited on 1/16 8:38 AM by adolph rollingover
 
Good stuff adolph, always love your cut ups. Almost always something there to talk about. And I totally agree about Williams; I knew he had speed but that last TD run of 13 yards was a very strong play. Impressive.

On Play #2, I think it was simply well scouted/defended. Cards start with 6 in the box but sink both the safety and the corner on the motion creating an 8 man front. The blocks unfold as you describe but the CB is unblocked and a free hitter. If Heard takes the inside track I think the CB at least gets enough of him to allow others to rally to the ball. At best I see that cut picking up only a yard or 2 more.

I've watched Play #3 multiple times and I still cannot figure out what UofL is doing on defense. Regardless of what they were doing, it was indeed a bad read by the QB. The QB locks in to that side from the get go and the defense seems to be CB on the #1 with a single very high safety. It appeared to be bad man coverage from the start by the LB/Nickel/whoever on the #2 (defensive confusion ???). With #2 basically open from the snap and the QB staring down that side, I don't see how he missed him.
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In the purest sense the Smash pattern is designed to put a conventional Cover 2 CB in a high low stretch. In this instance there really wasn't a Safety over CB alignment to attack. Furthermore, the hitch route by the #1 was about 10 yards deep. That is way to deep (at least 5 yards too deep) for a "true" Smash pattern. That deep of a "hitch" drags the CB back into the CB/S gap you are trying to exploit.

Play #14 (edit) was very well blocked all around but the key block was #74 on the LB.

Can't tell too much about the other 2 still shots but I love the Tunnel Screen and have NEVER understood 2 over 3 coverage alignment, especially to the field side. As you note, it is like a 5 yard gift at worse. I remember the Tunnel Screen from the Mumme days (J-LO hit UofL for a long TD on this play). But, IIRC, they would motion into the T-E slot and hit him as soon as he reached the slot. This shortens the throw and also shortens the OL's blocking track to the outside defender since he will squeeze in on the motion. While that does "narrow the tunnel" it is still plenty wide for a fast or shifty runner to make a play. Gotta get if off quick because you have an unblocked rusher on that side.

Peace

This post was edited on 1/16 2:36 PM by WildCard

This post was edited on 1/16 8:54 PM by WildCard
 
WC. while I appreciate your football knowledge and inputs I think that while you might be able to run for the Mayor of Louisville you will never be able to run for the Governor of Kentucky.
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Thisis most of half two until my video died

# play comment plus/minus


1 IZ no seams-williams 2


2 OZ big crack/nice cut williams 20


3 OZ Williams wrong cut, ran IZ 2


4 tunnel/draw 5 tech beat tackle 0


5 sack left guard passed DT to center -5


* punt * *


6 4 verts seam broken up. Well defended 0


7 speed
option QB read EMLOS-nice read 6



8 snag QB escape to TE comeback 22


9 RB swing #4 fumbles after gain. #14
recovers -8


10 IZ 3 tech blew up the play -2


11 4 verts sack. 5 tech beat tackle outside/in (3 man
rush) -8


* punt


12 IZ #87 missed block on LB 1


13 IZ good read cut by #5 6


14 QB counter offf jet motion LB and Safety read 1


* punt * *


15 switch
vertica threw away 0


16 tunnel
return throw away. Play read 0


17 4 verts 5 tech beat tackle- sack 0


* fg * *


18 A Trap 1 tech defeated guard block 1


19 C Trap LB filled well took on block 2


20 4 verts FS rolled to Fade left seam 40


21 RB screen 5 tech pinned ears and was burnt 22


22 OZ SS played downhill 5


23 IZ 98? Unblockable 1


24 4 verts check down to RB spot route 3


* FG * *


32 Inside

IZ with Jet motion TD

This post was edited on 1/16 3:43 PM by adolph rollingover

This post was edited on 1/16 3:45 PM by adolph rollingover
 
After looking at this, I may revise my impression of Brown as an OC. It looks like hes a good playcaller, because most of the plays were there; just not executed. I do think hes sorely lacking in the day to day coaching/development of the offense as a unit, as well as the individual players. Especially so for the QB position.
 
Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:

After looking at this, I may revise my impression of Brown as an OC. It looks like hes a good playcaller, because most of the plays were there; just not executed. I do think hes sorely lacking in the day to day coaching/development of the offense as a unit, as well as the individual players. Especially so for the QB position.
It's amazing how good the Bama coaches usually look with their players and how UK's coaches often call the wrong play and look inept with their players, LOL.

Hopefully we are going to see a change in that starting next year, at least on the UK side.
 
Playing offense takes talent and discipline we didn't have a lot of this last season. Brown wasn't here long enough to see what his offense looked like.
 
Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:

After looking at this, I may revise my impression of Brown as an OC. It looks like hes a good playcaller, because most of the plays were there; just not executed. I do think hes sorely lacking in the day to day coaching/development of the offense as a unit, as well as the individual players. Especially so for the QB position.
I have to disagree. I still find Brown to be atrocious at best as a play caller. For 2 years I couldn't accurately tell what our offense was. We seem to flip back and forth between zone read and Air Raid systems. For 2 years we couldn't figure out who our best player was or how to get him the football. Why is our QB, a drop back style QB, leading the team in carries? Why was the UL game the first time all year Boom went over 100 yards? Where did Blake Bone, Dorian Baker or Garrat Johnson go? Those guys caught difficult balls and then all of the sudden not a single pass is thrown their way for the final 6 games. Why are we trying to run inside zones against 8 in the box? Why are we running a final drive needing to put the ball in teh endzone and yet we run 6 straight running plays? Less than 2 minutes to go and we need to move the ball 80 yards and yet we don't attempt a single pass? I'm sorry but that is not a serious attempt at offense.

All offenses work if they are executed. Part of a coach getting his offense to execute is asking them to do things they are capable of. You saw the definition of good play calling on the other side of the field. And I'm no Petrino fan but he figured out early what wasn't working so he did something else. We on the other hand just kept burying our heads and trying the same play over and over. Our last drive had zero chance of putting points on the board. We wouldn't have executed that drive once out of 100 tries. The entire time Neal was here our offense looked disorganized and confused as to what it's purpose was.
 
Originally posted by TBCat:
Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:

After looking at this, I may revise my impression of Brown as an OC. It looks like hes a good playcaller, because most of the plays were there; just not executed. I do think hes sorely lacking in the day to day coaching/development of the offense as a unit, as well as the individual players. Especially so for the QB position.
I have to disagree. I still find Brown to be atrocious at best as a play caller. For 2 years I couldn't accurately tell what our offense was. We seem to flip back and forth between zone read and Air Raid systems. For 2 years we couldn't figure out who our best player was or how to get him the football. Why is our QB, a drop back style QB, leading the team in carries? Why was the UL game the first time all year Boom went over 100 yards? Where did Blake Bone, Dorian Baker or Garrat Johnson go? Those guys caught difficult balls and then all of the sudden not a single pass is thrown their way for the final 6 games. Why are we trying to run inside zones against 8 in the box? Why are we running a final drive needing to put the ball in teh endzone and yet we run 6 straight running plays? Less than 2 minutes to go and we need to move the ball 80 yards and yet we don't attempt a single pass? I'm sorry but that is not a serious attempt at offense.

All offenses work if they are executed. Part of a coach getting his offense to execute is asking them to do things they are capable of. You saw the definition of good play calling on the other side of the field. And I'm no Petrino fan but he figured out early what wasn't working so he did something else. We on the other hand just kept burying our heads and trying the same play over and over. Our last drive had zero chance of putting points on the board. We wouldn't have executed that drive once out of 100 tries. The entire time Neal was here our offense looked disorganized and confused as to what it's purpose was.
I am no defender or Neal Brown but you are making some broad statements which simply are not true. I have every offensive clip tagged and organized and I fail to see any evidence this offense flipped between zone read and air raid. My guess is there are less than 15 zone read plays the entire year.

I would like evidence of more than 10 snaps where UK ran inside zone vs "8 in the box"

Please watch the final drive. in 30 seconds went from the 25 to the 47. with 4 running plays, 1 running back swing and a qb sneak. THe next 4 plays there were 3 pass and 1 resulting in an interception. Playing man against 4 , with 4 in zone and rushing 3 is going to be difficult to throw against. Thus the runs got yards and the passes resulted in scrambles and interceptions.
1. rb swing. +8
2.QB run +4 first down. clock stops
3. QB run +5. 1:55 on
4. OZ Williams +4 OB.
5. 3rd and 2. Jet Motion RB counter to Heard. +1 (time out)
6. 4th and 1 1:27 remaining ball at UK 47 QB sneak Clock stops
7.1:20 remains 4 verticals called. rush 3. Scramble. threw away OOB
8. 2nd 10 rush 3 QB draw. +2 (time out)
9. smash called. 5 tech flushed, QB escape OOB -2 51 secodns
10. rush 3 4 verticals. INT


You final point about Petrino has even less merit. There was a good reason every running back and every QB had a least their second best day of the year against UK.

If you have an agenda fine, but at least have some facts to support it.
 
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