O Line starters next season, assuming we get no more transfers
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Manning is not an OT. He doesn't have that kind of length or lateral mobility. At Auburn, he was a backup OG.
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Yes, it says that. Also suggests that UK has a whole lot of offensive linemen, and that Young was unable to break into the playing rotation until the end of the season.
I think Young will eventually receive quality playing time. He is big, mean, and talented. But if they have decided Young is an OG, then he will have Horsey, Burton, Manning, and Bingham to contend with. Maybe Buford. Maybe Cox, too, unless he moves inside to C. Never before in my lifetime have I seen this much quality depth on UK's OL.
More former four/five Stars than starting slots.
One of the legendary aspect of John Schlarman’s days at U.K.: in his playing days he was never the biggest player in the picture.
Burton has to get bigger. I watched him on the sideline during the Citrus Bowl. He doesn't look like an SEC offensive lineman yet. A well put together young man, but not thick in the lower body like Fortner and Dotson.
I don’t see them adding a transfer til spring. My guess is they go thru spring ball and see what they have and decide. Lots of talent in the room we will be ok I’m not worried but it’s just a matter of if the pass protection will be good or average.
Well...until the kids play...it's hard to say if it is quality depth. To see coaches opt to play Horsey at OT and Quentin Wilson at OG in a pinch at Citrus bowl.....I would have to argue I'm not sold on UK's depth just yet.
The other major question for me is not just who replaces both tackles, will Cox be as good as Center as Drake/Fortner, etc.... How is Wolford going to show as the OLine kids become more of his work vs. Schlarman's work.
During one presser, Stoops acted like the OL would be fine. Hopefully guys step up. We have some young talent. Just hope they are not all college guards. 
Bingham and Hall are the two I'm betting on showing early promise.
Agree on Wilson, its unfair to judge in just one game at a new position for sure. Drake Jackson was really good and its no shame to play behind him. He was all the things you metioned plus his best quality was his bulldog mentality. Then Fortner was moved into Wilsons position and he's no slouch either and should have received more praise IMO for the job he did this year in a new and hard position.
I've been touting Eli Cox for three years now and thought he would be our next great center coming out of high school even though he played guard. He is just made for center and has more athleticism than Drake and is just as nasty if not more. So that is a no brainer.
Outside of the UF game next year our schedule starts out soft and it shoudl give time for some of our young talent to season in those games and so that by the time we hit the meat of the SEC we should have our starters figured out. But I fully expect to see one or two of the FR/RFR in there (Goodwin, Burton, Young, Bingham, Wolabaugh)
Maybe...but guys like John Young, Flax, Buford, Jager Burton played in the UL game and probably the New Mexico game. I'd have thought all those guys save Jager did a RS before this year.
To start the season I'm going to say
LT - Horsey
LG - Manning
C - Cox
RG - Burton
RT - Flax
Goodwin takes over RT midseason and then they move him to LT in 2023. With him enrolling early though we will probably know where he is at by the end of spring practice.
LT - Horsey
LG - Manning
C - Cox
RG - Burton
RT - Flax
Goodwin takes over RT midseason and then they move him to LT in 2023. With him enrolling early though we will probably know where he is at by the end of spring practice.
That's the OL I foresee too. But don't sleep on Wohlbaugh at RT, I think he'll play early. As of now, Burton's undersized. Does Adams breakthrough there? Spring will be a very important time for a lot of guys.
We will probably see a much more heavy rotation like we did in 2018 when we were rotating 10 guys in the OLine. I feel like the lack of rotation was often blamed on Coach Wolfe's preference but its probably more in line with why win your right mind would you not want to have Kinnard, Rosenthal, Fortner, & Cox on the field at all times. Less superstars may mean keeping guys fresher by rotating more often. I guess we will see.
As we transition to more of the outside zone scheme, will our OL still be huge, road grader types or more of slighter lighter, quicker and mobile?
He started for the better part of two years before getting injured and playing back up snaps for most of this year.
If Goodwin starts day 1, then more than likely we will be in for a rough go in year one. Just go back and watch Landon's tape when he was thrown into the starting lineup when Mossier got hurt. He had occasional flashes of the greatness that would come, but he was definitely a bottom half of the SEC LT in year 1. Goodwin is raw. He is a beast, but his footwork and technique are not 5 star level, his athleticism is. We need him to play back up/developmental snaps until he is ready to play LT or Levis is going to get injured.
I would characterize that as best case scenario for Goodwin. I hope everyone realizes that a 5 star LT cooks much differently than a 5 star running back, CB or other skill position.
If we go into the season with horsey as LT, our entire offense will be impacted. He'll do an admirable job but we won't have the season we should. We need someone to step up or transfer in.
How does Goodwin compare with Jedrick Wills? He ended up starting 11 games for Alabama as a freshman.
Wills appeared in 11 games as a Freshman, starting 1. I think Goodwin will have a similar Freshman year probably a few more starts when all said in done, simply based on Talent at OT.
I would say they compare favorably. I would give Wills the nod in technique and Goodwin in athleticism, but Wills never played left tackle. He played RT his entire career and that is an easier position that LT. I would be less worried if Goodwin was playing RT as a freshman than LT, but I'd much prefer him to be a swing tackle, getting backup snaps at both tackle positions, but in less crucial points of the game.
That is what I'm looking for as the OLine turns over from Gran/Schlarman days to Coen/Wolford days. Dotson lost a starting job basically due to this IMO.....
So do you want smaller/agile OLine vs. hammer dudes.
I don't know but I personally like mean road grader types. But if we are going to pass more and spread the field everywhere I know we need OL that can move.
Watch tape on Goodwin. He will have to learn like all freshmen do. But he is an elite talent. Not just a huge guy. A great player in the making. He will be a better player than Landon Young. He will not play his best football as a freshman, but I think he starts from game #1. Truly special player. Is Kenneth Horsey a good player? Yes. Is Kenneth Horsey a better Ltackle than Goodwin? Just watch the tape of Goodwin in the AA Bowl and dare to be honest about what you see.
It would have been great if Dare Rosenthal had come back for another year. But he did not. Goodwin is the best player available to replace him at Ltackle.
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