Anyone in the 7 ft range that can walk and chew gum at the same time can contribute as much as Skal does. At least Hump is big enough to set a pick.
Not sure how bad ill get slammed, but i gotta ask
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Our guys 'bout got this gum chewing thing down,they will be ready come tourney time
yup, he was lost for the 7 minutes he played and looked lackadaisical
OP why would you continue to root for a team with a coach that is too dumb to see how guys on his own bench fit? It is the same stupid argument we had all year in FBI over qb. Then when the back up does play it looked like the coach was right in the first place. Now FBI fans are arguing over two qb's they haven't seen play! SMDH.
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If Cal had used them, then KU would have been given 20 more free throws. He was just trying to keep the score closer.
Does Skal not get done the same way? I guess Skal is more of a threat to block some shots but why not play them a few spot minutes to prolong our bigs in foul trouble. Not like Kansas was playing a big man who is super athletic and skilled. They could have fouled as much as Marcus did for sure.
your a pretty stupid guy right? I mean you gotta have learning issues and stuff. how can you compare this to FB? this was about a min and a half at the end of a game when 3 of our 4 bigs in the rotation fouled out. no one is questioning a hof coach. everyone is interested in why he was more comfortable going with a 6 ft guard at the 4 instead of a 7 ft center. it's a discussion that's all, it's not time to root for another team guy.
the best person to answer this would be Cal. but I don't have him on speed dial and pretty sure he does not troll this site as cal1awesome or something answering our questions. so what we do as a fan base is get together on a message board and bring up topics like this and discuss. by Tuesday after the Tenn game I'm sure we will all gather here again and start all over. you kinda see how this works?
You are posting about who a hof coach plays at the end of the game based on never seeing him play in a college game and you want to call me stupid. Go for it!
The logic is those calling for the backup qb also never saw him play in a college game but also thought the coach was too dumb to put him in. Lol
The logic is those calling for the backup qb also never saw him play in a college game but also thought the coach was too dumb to put him in. Lol
Honestly, as bad as Skal is, the game I'm referring to was much worse for Humphries. He was literally getting thrown under the basket. He doesn't block shots, he hasn't shown anything offensively. I think he will turn into a good player, but not this year.
really never seen him play? I'm guessing your referring to Wynn. I think most logical posters here are referring more towards Hump. but once again your slow , and see only parts and bits of things to fit your agenda driven opinion .
once again I'll go slow and break it down for you. it is a logical question as a topic on a message board to ask why we think Cal chose to go with a 6ft guard over a 7 ft center at that time of the game. no one is questioning Cals coaching ability. it is a healthy discussion proven by all the logistical responses. cal is the only one to answer this question , but I'm sure he is busy getting ready for TN.
so us as fans use this out let to discuss things we seen in the game and about the program. this is not questioning cal or his coaching. it's just a conversation not a critiquing cal or his coaching. do you see the difference ?
now relax go get some hot coco to take with your meds. wow I would hate to see your reaction if someone actually did go after cal and question his coaching, geez I see you taking a hit out on them.
now I'll just ask you because I'm curious . why do you think Cal chose to go with Hawkins instead of Hump? even through the OT 5 min time he stuck with a line up of 5"9, 6"2, 6", 6"3 , 6"8. what is your opinion on why Cal was more comfortable with that line up instead of putting in a traditional big? by the way no one is saying cal was wrong. at that time cal as a hof coach may of seen that as our best chance to win, I trust him. but I am interested in why he felt that was our best chance to win. that's all some of us are discussing, so relax.
Sorry I guess I read your first post too slow, the one where "you" mentioned him specifically. As far as humphries what makes any poster think he could add anything based off how little he added in the 20 minutes he has played this year. So go ahead and discuss why EJ and the other white kid at the end of the bench didn't get to play and call me names.
It still was a good game. Darn it, if Ulis hadnt thrown the ball away with 3 seconds on the clock in regulation.....
I think if JM had been where Tyler was expecting him to be and where he was supposed to be he would've Gotten a shot.
No one is questioning why Humphries and Wynyard isn't playing regular minutes, but in the Kansas game we had 4 bigs to foul out and they still can't get in for a couple minutes to see what they can do?
They can't get minutes in a regular game but against a top team on the road we should give them a try? WTH kinda logic is that?
Here is my take.
I agree the "out of shape" thing is nonsense - they simply are not ready in Cal's eyes.
Cal mentioned multiple times that EVERY possession was important in a game like this, thus he isnt going to put someone in he doesn't trust.
I agree the "out of shape" thing is nonsense - they simply are not ready in Cal's eyes.
Cal mentioned multiple times that EVERY possession was important in a game like this, thus he isnt going to put someone in he doesn't trust.
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I think it is a fair enough question to ask. I will say that by the time our 3rd big man fouled out it was 83-78 with 2 to go in OT and essentially over. In fact, I was 100% sure it was a loss as Ulis turned it over at the end of regulation. That is not the point though...but rather Cal would not have stuck one of them in until that point (if he did at all) as he is gonna roll with Poy, Willis, with Lee and Skal backing them up no matter what. Now Skal's rebounding issues infuriate us all, so I guess you could say bench him due to that. I'm sure Cal would like to, but obviously the Hump and wood chopper are not even as viable of options as Skal sadly. He knows more than we all do, and I know that offends some on this board who think their basketball knowledge is on part with Cal, Coach K, Izzo, etc, but it is just not. Sorry.
I think Cal thought he could win the game the way he went. I also think he is still recruiting one more big for next year!
I think a lot of us (and, to be perfectly clear, I'm totally guilty!) see a player like Humphries and semi-automatically calibrate our expectations to senior-year Jorts. Same with Skal and OADs AD and NN. It just doesn't work that way. There's no cookie cutter for making new players each season. Each kid's different.
I think the question is, just how far behind is Hump that he cant get in when circumstances call for a big to rebound and the 4 regular bigs are not available?
We needed a big in the Duke and UCLA game and Cal turned to Hump. In a couple other games he has put him in because the position called for it.
So i think we all we're expecting Cal to go that route Sat because he had in the past.
Cal has made it clear these guys gotta be ready to produce as soon as their number is called. Always be ready. So this thinking he had not played so to big of a risk just contradicts cals approach. So my guessing is Cal has not seen enough of Hump in practice to trust him in the game.
Thats probably the answer and gotta say thats discouraging. Hump will be here awhile. He is a good young man who will help more off the court then on the court for the next few years. And thats ok. We have some studs coming in. Good to know we have good character young men in place to set a high standard for the new guys to see.
We needed a big in the Duke and UCLA game and Cal turned to Hump. In a couple other games he has put him in because the position called for it.
So i think we all we're expecting Cal to go that route Sat because he had in the past.
Cal has made it clear these guys gotta be ready to produce as soon as their number is called. Always be ready. So this thinking he had not played so to big of a risk just contradicts cals approach. So my guessing is Cal has not seen enough of Hump in practice to trust him in the game.
Thats probably the answer and gotta say thats discouraging. Hump will be here awhile. He is a good young man who will help more off the court then on the court for the next few years. And thats ok. We have some studs coming in. Good to know we have good character young men in place to set a high standard for the new guys to see.
Humphries is a 3 year player .... He's like Kaminsky that Wisconsin had.... its going to take a while for him to improve and mature his body.
wildcat stlouis that's a great comparison . frank the tank took 3 years to come in his own. my only concern is Frank was in a Big10 type O and system. Hump will be competing against different type of big men. and a poster who mentioned Cousins , Townes and Jorts as compassions to big men who did not play above the rim. guy Jorts was lucky and bought into a system. the other 2 guys are all world lol.
Humphries likely doesn't play for two (primary) reasons. One is defense. Cal is so committed to defense there is no room for errors and mistakes regardless of what else a kid might bring to the floor. Humphries does bring an ability to score from mid-range on in and rebound and gives us 5 more fouls. But he has consistent lapses on defense and Cal has no tolerance for that - none. Second reason is Skal. This program is set up for and geared toward recruitment and development of elite high school players. The program depends on this reputation. Because of this, a perceived lack of commitment to develop these players could and likely would be used against us. Cal is staying true to his stars. He has to. No one in their right mind, however, can say that right now Skal offers more than Humphries in any category. Skal's time on the court is often so bad it's embarrassing.
And Marcus Lee can't score or defend and must wear invisible mittens because half the time he can't even catch the damn ball.
Lob, put back and an uncontested rebound.
Not to rag on your post but if you are correct about #1 he should only be putting 2 or 3 people on the floor.
