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Not making an honest effort to feed the post.

We have seen games this year when Poythress gets the ball like in the Bama game he gets to the bucket or gets fouled and goes to the FT Line. Poythress is also a decent FT shooter and makes most of his FTs. Lee is tough underneath and can easily get his double/doubles when fed the ball underneath. If Lee could work on a nice a 5-10 ft turnaround or hook shot underneath he can avg. 14-16ppg and double digits in Rebounds. Poythress in High School was an outstanding outside shooter and 3 point shooter to go along with inside game and avg. 30ppg and double/digits in Rebounds. We have seen Poythress here at UK have 20-25 points and double digit rebounds it just not consistent.
In the Bama game with the pick and roll to Poythress that worked perfectly and he went for 25 and 7 that day. I don't know why we don't try that more consistently with Poythress like in the Bama game. We have to start right off the start of the game like Bama when Poythress scored the first 17-18 points of the game and he was on fire. The pick and roll was used nice in that game and Bama has a better team than Auburn right now esp with Auburn having two guys out injured. We have to get Lee/Poythress involved early in the game and often if its by the pick and roll or by the lobs to both big men. For Kentucky to be successful and win the rest of the year these 2 players have to become consistent players. I would may give Willis a shot in place of Briscoe and go with Ulis, Murray, Willis, Poy, Lee. Skal come in for the big men and Briscoe, Hawkins(when he returns), Mulder or Matthews for the guards. That is nice 8 or 9 man rotation and get more players involved and see who is playing well to get that playing time that Coach Cal has started to talk about who is earning the playing time.
 
I know Poy, Marcus, and Skal have been very underwhelming this year as a whole, but could it be the case that we aren't feeding the post enough? None of our bigs have shown the ability to score on anyone down low, but we don't exactly go out of our way to give them opurttunities.

There were several times last night that Alex had decent position down low and we passed him up. When we pass them up so many times, eventually they stop fighting for position. Just an observation.

No we are not feeding post enough. You need look no further than shots taken by the big guys to see that. The problem does not only with the guards, though. We aren't working well enough without the ball. Big guys gotta get open and guards gotta get it to them.
 
Briscoe seems to want to feed the post at times. He made a helluva pass yesterday by driving and dishing. However, outside of Skal, no one else has back to the basket moves. So, while I agree we need to feed the post more, I am not sure how much we will get.
 
We have 3 very good gaurds. Ulis, Murray, and Briscoe could start for anyone in the country. The miss on Skals ability really crippled us this year. Add that with Lee is more of a athlete than a basketball player and the astonishing inconsistencies of Alex we are screwed unless our gaurds play incredible.
 
YOUR OPINION, you said my opinion was stupid, I was just returning the compliment.

You said our team would be better without our leading scorer and our 2nd best 3 point shooter statistically behind Willis.
 
You said our team would be better without our leading scorer and our 2nd best 3 point shooter statistically behind Willis.
Get your story right. YOU said without Murray we would have a losing record! I said we MIGHT have a better record. Nobody knows. Somebody else would be in that position and opportunity might lead to success. Don't care if you disagree with me but don't put words in my mouth. Murray is a good shooter.
 
Get your story right. YOU said without Murray we would have a losing record! I said we MIGHT have a better record. Nobody knows. Somebody else would be in that position and opportunity might lead to success. Don't care if you disagree with me but don't put words in my mouth. Murray is a good shooter.

I think you need to go back and check because I never posted that.
 
I think you need to go back and check because I never posted that.
My mistake, Irish Cat said it and you said "pretty much" as if you agreed. My response was really to Irish Cat, but either way you said my post was stupid. I like discussing the team more than casting comments like this. I still stick with what I said. We disagree and probably won't agree anytime soon.
 
hard to believe we have 2 pages of comments on this topic . With fans actually thinking we should throw the ball inside to non scorers more often . I wish we had scorers to throw it into but we dont . The idea of giving Lee , Poy and Skal more back to the basket opportunities is so goofy its hard to believe . I'm not saying never give it to them if they have are open .. but if guarded in a true post up spot down on the blocks none of the 3 have shown any ability to score consistently .
 
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My mistake, Irish Cat said it and you said "pretty much" as if you agreed. My response was really to Irish Cat, but either way you said my post was stupid. I like discussing the team more than casting comments like this. I still stick with what I said. We disagree and probably won't agree anytime soon.

Fair enough. Sorry I said your comment was stupid, but I just don't see a scenario in which we are better without our leading score at 18 ppg.
 
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A lot of issues but no answers. We need to accentuate our strengths. UH! Speed? Strength? Shooting accuracy Interior, 3 point, free throw? Defensive presence? Every player ready for every game hustling our behinds off AKA Derek Willis Auburn game. As Cal has said so many games the other teams are bringing it with their fans and if we are not prepared to match it we will lose. If Willis, Hawkins, Poytress, Lee want to play this is their opportunity. They have the lottery ticket. All they need now is to dial in the 6 numbers: Hustle, Defend, Rebound, Trust your coach, Trust your team mate, and the powerball: Walk off with your head held high as you gave it your best and it was not enough on this particular night. Go Cats!
 
This makes me think about Tubby's frustration trying to get Rondo to feed Orbzut in the post.. Rondo was like.. Your kiddin right?
 
And I might be a better guitarist than Jeff Beck and a better singer than Joe Williams. Send me a million dollars and I'll sell you all the rights to my recordings.
Heres my reasons. First of all a decent basketball player will take his place. That player and others will get more shot attemts, naturally. That player will definitely be a better defensive player than Murray, and if he looks for the open man at all, a better assist person. Its hard to tell what would happen, but someone would step up and play, it wouldn't be four on five. Good luck with the guitar playing and singing!
 
Heres my reasons. First of all a decent basketball player will take his place. That player and others will get more shot attemts, naturally. That player will definitely be a better defensive player than Murray, and if he looks for the open man at all, a better assist person. Its hard to tell what would happen, but someone would step up and play, it wouldn't be four on five. Good luck with the guitar playing and singing!
Who the hell on THIS team is going to step up and be better than Murray? Yes, Murray needs to play better defense but who on our team doesn't? Murray is not a great assist guy but HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE! He's our SHOOTING guard. How hard is that for you to comprehend?
 
Maybe, maybe not. Jamal is a talent - but he either doesn't have the confidence to give the ball to the the guys in the low post or he thinks he is the man. I think it is some of both. Either way, he may be fun to watch, but he reminds me a lot of Pistol Pete. Pete's team NEVER won a big game. Pistol got his 45 points or whatever, was fun to watch and marvel at - but the fact is we beat them like a drum every time we played him.

We have real issues with this team, Briscoe can't hit layups or free throws - but the kid hustles his butt off. Skai is NEVER going to be a good player - he is 7 feet tall with a nice touch - I can't understand why Cal is not trying to get the big Aussie and now the lumberjack in the game. Skal is useless - part of his problem is Jamal - because Jamal knows this and will not give him the ball! I know of at least two times yesterday Skal was open for what should have been dunks and Jamal refused to pass the ball to him. Derek is hustling, but thinking too much. Look at our shot chart yesterday - this team missed more shots within 3 feet than they made - lack to concentration or trying to make the impossible plays. When they go in we "marvel" at the shot, but think how many waisted opportunities we had/have.

Jamal has issues with trust of anyone else. How many times would Cal let any other player drive in wildly and throw up ridiciouslous shots like he does? This is how bad this team is. The great outside juco shooter is shooting what - 20% or so? The only person I feel comfortable with shooting is Tyler - he deserves a better team. I hope he stays another year - because next year - even though we will be young as usual - he will have some warriors that he could take to a National Championship.

I have come to the realization that this team is going to do nothing this year by Kentucky standards. I hope we can win 25 games - a feat most teams would go crazy over - but not UK's fans. We have been spoiled the last several years and have been treated to some quality talent. But like another guy has said, what is disappointing is getting to so many final fours and then not winning it. I know it's early - and I am a very optimistic guy - but I can't see this team winning any thing meaningful this year with the players that are presently playing. Don't get me wrong, I will be supporting the team and pulling for them every game - they just don't have "it". I really dread the Kansas game, right now a 30 point beating is probably a reality.

But............

Go Big Blue!

you say we need to feed the post and then say right after that we miss the great majority of our shots within 3 ft of the basket.

You say nobody can shoot but Ulis, hes the only only you trust. The rest of the posters bitching moaning and groaning about Murray taking shots.

Ulis is shooting 39% from the field and 28% from 3. Yes thats right 28%!!!

Murray is shooting 42% from the field and 39% from 3.

Now your saying that you would rather have the kid chunking up shots that hits them at a 28% clip than the other kid who is averaging 39%??

A lot of those shots by Murray is the others throwing him the ball wanting him to shoot especially if the clock is winding down and somebody has to shoot it. Their are a ton of shots of his is this exact scenario where he is forced to throw up a bad shot because the clock is down to 2 seconds and nobody else wants it.


To me it just boggles my mind reading the posts on here knocking Murray who could be in HS this year ya know and is by far our best scorer to date. Willis is making improvements every time he steps on the court and is leading the team in 3pt % at 40%. But he is not asked to create or force last second shots. If he was asked to do so his numbers would be much lower.
 
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Who the hell on THIS team is going to step up and be better than Murray? Yes, Murray needs to play better defense but who on our team doesn't? Murray is not a great assist guy but HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE! He's our SHOOTING guard. How hard is that for you to comprehend?
I said a decent player would take his place, didn't say better. I agree that he is better than whoever would take his place. This is a team sport, too bad reading comprehension isn't a team sport! You definitely need an assist. Have a nice day
 
I said a decent player would take his place, didn't say better. I agree that he is better than whoever would take his place. This is a team sport, too bad reading comprehension isn't a team sport! You definitely need an assist. Have a nice day
So, just who is this "decent" player you want to take Murray's place? That's pretty easy to say but difficult to back up. I get the feeling you're no stranger to making stupid statements.
 
So, just who is this "decent" player you want to take Murray's place? That's pretty easy to say but difficult to back up. I get the feeling you're no stranger to making stupid statements.
you moron! I didn't say I wanted anyone to take his place. Someone said we would have a losing record without him and I disagree. I would hope that a player like Hawkins, Mulder, Matthews would be considered decent or why are they at Kentucky. You get confused easily, some people just want to argue all the damn time Idiot!
 
you moron! I didn't say I wanted anyone to take his place. Someone said we would have a losing record without him and I disagree. I would hope that a player like Hawkins, Mulder, Matthews would be considered decent or why are they at Kentucky. You get confused easily, some people just want to argue all the damn time Idiot!
LOL, here is a quote from YOUR post. Your words, not mine..

" First of all a decent basketball player will take his place. That player and others will get more shot attemts, naturally. That player will definitely be a better defensive player than Murray, and if he looks for the open man at all, a better assist person. Its hard to tell what would happen, but someone would step up and play, it wouldn't be four on five."


So, MORON, go f**k yourself.
 
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LOL, here is a quote from YOUR post. Your words, not mine..

" First of all a decent basketball player will take his place. That player and others will get more shot attemts, naturally. That player will definitely be a better defensive player than Murray, and if he looks for the open man at all, a better assist person. Its hard to tell what would happen, but someone would step up and play, it wouldn't be four on five."


So, MORON, go f**k yourself.
same to you idiot
 
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