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No win situation...and OOC scheduling...

If fans can't sellout hugely important games like the one we just played against a P5 school that had beaten us everytime since joining our conference before then the fans really don't deserve a thing in regards to scheduling.

Not a real good argument when the EKU game is less than 200 seats away from being a sellout.
 
I have an idea....Why don't we play the schedule we've been given, win at least 6 games THEN play some P5 team in a bowl game?

I'd rather do that than add another P5 team to the regular season schedule and take the chance of NOT BEING BOWL ELIGIBLE!
 
Louisville is the last game of the year because the SEC has made that weekend rivalry week. UF plays FSU, USC plays CU, UGA plays GT, UK plays UL, AU plays Bama, OM plays State. All are instate games, West is just able to count it as a conference game while all the East's rivals are in the ACC. This allows them to go out and play an out of region P5 team and still play 3 cupcakes. Bama does this, AU does it, but the Mississippi schools play 4 cupcakes.

Tennessee is Kentucky's historical rival. For the past 80 years, Tennessee was Kentucky's rival on rivalry weekend. Now that Louisville moved to the ACC, their league requested the change and UK bowed down. I hate that it changed.
 
Also, these neutral site & home-home games with non-P5 teams (aka Southern Miss and Eastern Mich) up your chance of losing about ten-fold. I thought we would've learned that lesson playing WKU in Nashville but we didn't. Take a look at how Miss. St. played at Southern Miss and Mizzou at Arkansas St. earlier this year. It's risky to play these non-P5 teams on the road because your team will likely be far from focused and won't even have the home crowd to back you up.
The economics of college football today have dictated that P5 will have to go play non-P5 teams on the road in 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 arrangements. The price for not agreeing to those arrangements is that those schools can demand what amounts to near 100% of the gate to come to your place only. No P5 team is ever going to agree to go play anywhere without the guarantee of a returned home date. Thus, if you wish to have a 7 game (or 8) home schedule, you will have to agree to OOC away games else forfeit the reasoning ($$$) behind having the 7th home game.
 
Tennessee is Kentucky's historical rival. For the past 80 years, Tennessee was Kentucky's rival on rivalry weekend. Now that Louisville moved to the ACC, their league requested the change and UK bowed down. I hate that it changed.
Only UK fans...and mostly older UK fans consider UT to be UK's rival. UT fans see both Alabama and Florida as theirs.
BTW, UK didn't bow to any request. The conference sets the conference schedule and the conference moved the UT game. Regardless of what UK wanted, there was going to be a different game at the end of the season. UK did agree to move the UL game to the end of the season at the request of the SEC.
 
I've been going to games for 25 years and the only power 5 opponents I have ever seen not in the SEC are Louisville and Indiana.

A lot of you sound like the classic U of L fan. Beat up a bunch of patsies, call it an accomplishment and tell everyone how good you are.
You lack perspective

if you were a Florida fan, over the last 30 years you would have never seen your school leave the state to play an OOC game

if you are a current Alabama fan you don't even get the luxury of watching a quality OOC game in your home stadium, those now are only neutral site hugely expensive ticket items
 
You lack perspective

if you were a Florida fan, over the last 30 years you would have never seen your school leave the state to play an OOC game

if you are a current Alabama fan you don't even get the luxury of watching a quality OOC game in your home stadium, those now are only neutral site hugely expensive ticket items
I'm just saying I'm bored out of my mind watching the same teams every year.
 
OP is wrong, because every needs these types of games. That being said, I don't think we should play EKU. Of course these games are blowouts against patsys, but wtf does playing EKU get us? At least playing a Florida team, Texas team, or Ohio team gets us a LITTLE exposure in those states... not a lot, but it's better than the exposure we get playing a team from Richmond, KY. We don't even get to root against another state, we're just being jerks to people 25 minutes away. Couple that with the off field incidents, and I see zero advantage to playing an in-state team.

And if I'm being totally honest, I've thought for years we should take Louisville off the schedule... I think that less now that they're in the ACC and that it is the last game instead of the first, but still, I just don't think there's a ton of advantage to playing that game besides old fat men jawing at each other about which city is better.
 
OP is wrong, because every needs these types of games. That being said, I don't think we should play EKU. Of course these games are blowouts against patsys, but wtf does playing EKU get us? At least playing a Florida team, Texas team, or Ohio team gets us a LITTLE exposure in those states... not a lot, but it's better than the exposure we get playing a team from Richmond, KY. We don't even get to root against another state, we're just being jerks to people 25 minutes away. Couple that with the off field incidents, and I see zero advantage to playing an in-state team.

And if I'm being totally honest, I've thought for years we should take Louisville off the schedule... I think that less now that they're in the ACC and that it is the last game instead of the first, but still, I just don't think there's a ton of advantage to playing that game besides old fat men jawing at each other about which city is better.

We need a team that does not want a return game. There aren't many out there. That's why we have to go to S. Miss
 
I'm just saying I'm bored out of my mind watching the same teams every year.
What hurts us for our OOC schedule and the possibility of playing different Big 5 opponents is that UL is OOC. Michigan/Ohio State, Oregon State/Oregon, Baylor/TCU, Oklahoma/Oklahoma State, Alabama/Auburn, Ole Miss/Mississippi State, etc. have their big rivalry game built in conference. This allows many of those schools to do a home and home with a different school every 2 years. I love how Ohio State and Oregon set up 2 year deals with different teams every couple years. If UL wasn't on our schedule, we could do that. I would love to do a home and home with programs like West Virginia, NC State, Pitt, Virginia, Northwestern, Pitt, Purdue, Rutgers, etc. Games that we have a chance of winning, but also a little bit of excitement in getting a different Power 5 team in.

I know this won't happen because we play UL every year OOC, but fun to think about.
 
Only UK fans...and mostly older UK fans consider UT to be UK's rival. UT fans see both Alabama and Florida as theirs.
BTW, UK didn't bow to any request. The conference sets the conference schedule and the conference moved the UT game. Regardless of what UK wanted, there was going to be a different game at the end of the season. UK did agree to move the UL game to the end of the season at the request of the SEC.

This. I have not met one UT fan that thinks of UK as a rival.
 
Only UK fans...and mostly older UK fans consider UT to be UK's rival. UT fans see both Alabama and Florida as theirs.
BTW, UK didn't bow to any request. The conference sets the conference schedule and the conference moved the UT game. Regardless of what UK wanted, there was going to be a different game at the end of the season. UK did agree to move the UL game to the end of the season at the request of the SEC.

Not true. When scheduling was going down, the ACC asked UK and the SEC if they would put Louisville at the end because they want all their in state rivalry games on the last weekend. UK bowed down and agreed. I'm not saying they were right or wrong, just disappointing in that Tennessee is not the last game of the year anymore.

As to your comment, most Tennessee fans hate Kentucky and the rivalry is very much alive, even though UK hasn't upheld its end of it. I think you'll see just how heated that rivalry is now that UK FINALLY seems to be taking football much more seriously.
 
Scheduling is a complicated process in today's athletics. There are many issues to consider (money, television, travel to name a few). I agree and understand posters concerns. At some point in time, I'm sure we will see an OOC school from a P5 school on our schedule. However, our football program is in a process of recruiting, developing and creating a truly competitive SEC team.
 
Folks only think about their school. If the NCAA takes away these "cupcake games" from the non-power 5 conf and FCS schools - many of them will have to drop football, because playing one or two "big" schools a year is how they get their athletic budgets.
Most of these teams get between 500k to over 1 mil to come and be a home game for a name school before or during conf play. That is how an EKU can afford to give scholarships and pay for equipment for not only its football program, but many non-revenue sports as well.
Not every kid is a major D1 prospect. As someone who has coached multiple HS sports for almost 20 years - I can tell you that the lower level kids work just as hard, if not harder due to circumstances, that the kids at UK do. It would be a shame if the NCAA had the nearsightedness to "force" P5 schools to only play each other; the domino effect that this would have on all college programs would be devastating.
 
Your right, UK gains nothing by beating EKU this week. However, the program is still in a place where we need a few guaranteed wins. 8 SEC games, and UL makes a tough schedule in anyone's book. Every team in America that can play these games, does.
 
This. I have not met one UT fan that thinks of UK as a rival.

It's hard to be a rivaly when you have won one game in like 27 years. Also, Florida is running up a pretty good streak against UT so that will not be much of a rivalry if it continues.

It would be nice to make it a rivalry again.
 
Not true. When scheduling was going down, the ACC asked UK and the SEC if they would put Louisville at the end because they want all their in state rivalry games on the last weekend. UK bowed down and agreed. I'm not saying they were right or wrong, just disappointing in that Tennessee is not the last game of the year anymore.

As to your comment, most Tennessee fans hate Kentucky and the rivalry is very much alive, even though UK hasn't upheld its end of it. I think you'll see just how heated that rivalry is now that UK FINALLY seems to be taking football much more seriously.
The SEC didn't need UK's permission to move the UT game. Yes, the conferences asked UK and UL to move the game to the end of the season.

Not sure what Tennessee fans you're hanging around as having one time lived in Tennessee I know quite a few and none of them consider UK a football rival. Basketball...yeah, some do. But it is also true that there are many UT football fans who are also UK basketball fans.
 
Who did Missouri play before they played us? 3 non-P5 schools. A lot of P5 schools put these teams on their schedule. This game against EKU will just about fund their athletic department for a year with the paycheck they will get.

I do think there has to be a happy medium somewhere though. MAC schools like Bowling Green or Toledo offer decent enough competition, maybe you schedule Marshall, Tulsa, ECU, teams like that who we should beat, but will get a decent game from.

I will say you can bet UofL will be scrambling to find a few more Samfords for their future schedules after their struggles this year.
 
What hurts us for our OOC schedule and the possibility of playing different Big 5 opponents is that UL is OOC. Michigan/Ohio State, Oregon State/Oregon, Baylor/TCU, Oklahoma/Oklahoma State, Alabama/Auburn, Ole Miss/Mississippi State, etc. have their big rivalry game built in conference. This allows many of those schools to do a home and home with a different school every 2 years. I love how Ohio State and Oregon set up 2 year deals with different teams every couple years. If UL wasn't on our schedule, we could do that. I would love to do a home and home with programs like West Virginia, NC State, Pitt, Virginia, Northwestern, Pitt, Purdue, Rutgers, etc. Games that we have a chance of winning, but also a little bit of excitement in getting a different Power 5 team in.

I know this won't happen because we play UL every year OOC, but fun to think about.
I'd like to disagree with anything in here but it's all correct. Northwestern is the one I've always wanted to play. A nice long September weekend in Chicago watching the boys. Unfortunately that will never happen.
 
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