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No WILLIS No Win

I never claimed to be a "medical prodigy", nor to possess noteworthy medical expertise. I believe my wording was clear and honest that my response was merely based upon my personal experience and nothing more. You, on the other hand, do seem to have a penchant for dishonestly distorting others' words in search of a point and to save face.



Please show me where I supposedly "trashed" Poythress today. I dare you. Cite the specific prior post. Because I don't believe that happened. At most, I merely I pointed out in this thread (and I can't even remember mentioning him recently in any other thread) that he's had had some "problems" at UK (which I assume any sane person would agree with), but ONLY to point out the fallacy in the common excuse used by some as an explanation, I've had NO malicious or mean-spirited posts specifically directed toward "trashing" Alex. And I resent your dishonest suggestion otherwise.



Not sure what your source is for this, but there are no hard and fast rules for how long it takes for athletes to return from an ACL. Some guys return amazingly fast in a matter of just a few months (Adrian Peterson, Iman Shumpert, etc.), others take a full year. Depends on the specific athlete. Depends on the recovery process.

But the point here was that it's not really a viable excuse for what some knee-jerk apologists have been citing it for Alex this season. Alex was cleared to play by his doctors a long time ago--so there's no longer any issue of whether he's medically deemed ready--and he appears to have all his lift and explosiveness back (hell, he's been going higher on dunks than ever before), and his deficiencies happen to be the same ones he had BEFORE the injury. Yeah, it might be easy low hanging fruit to now just scapegoat all his mistakes/limitations on the injury, but for some of us with common sense who've been watching him for four years we can't help but notice "....c'mon, this is just Alex being the same Alex he's always been."

Man, you just don't get it. First you put forth your own personal experience as representative of an entire population. Then you again display your ignorance about the injury in saying "doctors cleared him to play" as though it means he is back at 100%. (Purest folly). Then you ignore his performance last year when his defense was exemplary (the bashing). Then you behave like a wounded deer when confronted with all this. Bottom line is you are trying to make yourself feel better about the loss at the expense of that player.

Bottom line is that Alex is a fine student athlete. Alex IS still recovering from the injury in spite of your narrow experience. You show be ashamed of yourself for stating anything to the contrary when your have admitted you have done no research into the matter and claimed you are above doing so.
 
Rolaid brought up race and I said I thought it was uncalled for . Then you quoted my post so it seemed that you were telling me to take off my shades . Seemed that you were defending Rolaids race comment. Maybe I misunderstood.
Misunderstanding. It's all good...I thought you were defending him. See the crisp that happens after a loss.
 
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I'm not sure Poythress's problem is his knee. I can see his athleticism isn't quite the same as it was. But there are a lot of false statements concerning ACL injuries and reconstruction in this thread. No matter whether you have an autograft or allograft replacement, it is not going to be as strong as the original ligament. So the statement that people's knees comeback stronger after ACL reconstruction couldn't be farther from the truth. And while most people can return to full athletic participation in 6 months, that's not true of every patient. Also full athletic participation is not a full recovery. A small portion of patients never completely return to the level of performance they exhibited before the injury. And for others, they will gradually reach that level. Quicker for some. Almost no top athlete will be 100% of what they were before 12 months or so. As for people who say they had the surgery when it was a far worst procedure and they were fully back in less than a year. You are right. Today's arthroscopic procedures are far less invasive and have much quicker heal times from surgery. As for being 100% in less than a year. That may be true but you are not a world class athlete and pick-up ball isn't close to the same as division 1 basketball. You do not put near the same stresses and forces on your knee that someone like Poythress does. The strength and agility of world class athletes today puts an insane amount of stress on their knees and that's why you see an increase in knee injuries in professional sports now compared to the past. Today's athletes are bigger and stronger and more athletic and that's much harder on knees. Comparing you and your surgery to Poythress's is like comparing apples to rocks.
 
I should also add that there is a psychological aspect to the injury to athletes as well. For athletes, the knee will never feel the same and that is something people who are not as tuned in to their bodies as professional athletes are would notice. It is not possible for the surgeon to make the new ligament the exact same length and exact same tension as the original ligament. There will just be a minute difference between the new and the old. But that's enough of a difference that people who spend their life training and performing at a high level will notice. So one of the biggest things to overcome for an athlete, is to fully trust that knee. Especially when it doesn't feel the same as it did before surgery.
 
He's averaging 9 and 7 (on very few FGAs). Today he had 6 and 7 (again, on just 4 FGAs). Alex isn't a problem. Today or overall. He's not Terrence Jones, but 9 and 7 is good production from a guy who isn't even considered one of the top five players on this team. You think Willis can play the 4 and give us 9/7?
1. I thought you had me 'hidden' on here?
2. I actually agree u make valid points. I'm saying given what we all know that he is capable of doing he needs to get the lead out or this team isn't going to be very good. He could absolutely dominate people inside if he would just get the right mindset. He's a 22 year old man in a beasts body with insane athleticism, yet plays like a timid freshman the majority of times, its frustrating!
 
If Willis was hurt, you sound pretty silly.
Was Humphries hurt?

The only one who looks silly is Cal for hitching his wagon to Skal in the hopes that he will miraculously snap out of his funk and turn into Anthony Davis overnight.

Skal gives us nothing but turnovers and fouls. He can't score, can't block a shot, can't play defense. He's 6'10" and can't even grab a rebound. The past few weeks he's probably averaging something like 1.5 rebounds per game. He usually has more fouls than he does points and rebounds combined.

It's baffling to me why Skal is still starting, and guys like Humphries and Willis (supposedly injured) are riding the pine. At least Humphries has shown that he can hold his ground and grab a rebound.
 
And you know this how?
He knows it because Willis hasn't missed a free throw in the last 2 years. Look it up. However, I disagree with the suggestion that Calipari doesn't know how to use his players. Willis is being used correctly. This team's biggest problem is lack of physical play. In our 2 losses against UCLA and Ohio State, we were physically outplayed in the paint. Willis has some skills, but he is neither a physical player nor a reliable defender. Willis is a complimentary bench piece who is being used right as the 8th player in the rotation.
 
He's averaging 9 and 7 (on very few FGAs). Today he had 6 and 7 (again, on just 4 FGAs). Alex isn't a problem. Today or overall. He's not Terrence Jones, but 9 and 7 is good production from a guy who isn't even considered one of the top five players on this team. You think Willis can play the 4 and give us 9/7?

Willis is producing more than Poythress when you break it down by minutes.
 
Was Humphries hurt?

The only one who looks silly is Cal for hitching his wagon to Skal in the hopes that he will miraculously snap out of his funk and turn into Anthony Davis overnight.

Skal gives us nothing but turnovers and fouls. He can't score, can't block a shot, can't play defense. He's 6'10" and can't even grab a rebound. The past few weeks he's probably averaging something like 1.5 rebounds per game. He usually has more fouls than he does points and rebounds combined.

It's baffling to me why Skal is still starting, and guys like Humphries and Willis (supposedly injured) are riding the pine. At least Humphries has shown that he can hold his ground and grab a rebound.

Whether you like it or not, if Skal can get it together, we go farther with him then we will with Hump.
 
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