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NIL opportunities to salvage Reeves...

He didn’t make the money they told him he would last year apparently. He made under 100k which is crazy for your leading scorer. He is doing the smart thing here.
 
The Supreme Court has required the NCAA allow students to obtain other non-cash scholarships, internships and other support beyond the full cost-of-attendance. Only legislation will change things... and even that will likely be struck down by the Supreme Court for the same antitrust issues.
We live in a free-market and capitalistic system... players (as adults) should be paid what the market will bear. No caps on NIL endorsements.

funny thing is though, America's two healthiest sports (NBA, NFL) both have salary caps. Turns out it's good for the game and good for the players - for example, NBA teams are forced to spend 90% of the salary cap, which means decent role players can cash in big. Now I know you can't cap NIL (just like you can't cap NBA players endorsements), but the NCAA or whatever comes next just needs to make it a pay for play system. It's a big business. Treat it like one.
 
Oh yeah.The freshmen will all be studs and live up to their hype.

I'll take these freshman over Wheeler, freshman Cason, and freshman TyTy.

There will be hiccups, but I'm pretty confident that Edwards and Wagner are a step above Cason and Ty (and certainly Wheeler lolol)
 
funny thing is though, America's two healthiest sports (NBA, NFL) both have salary caps. Turns out it's good for the game and good for the players - for example, NBA teams are forced to spend 90% of the salary cap, which means decent role players can cash in big. Now I know you can't cap NIL (just like you can't cap NBA players endorsements), but the NCAA or whatever comes next just needs to make it a pay for play system. It's a big business. Treat it like one.
You're absolutely right... and I think the NCAA could work out a salary cap... if they were paying the players a salary. But they aren't... pretty much just cost of attendance (which varies greatly by school [public vs private])

But.... every NBA and NFL player can make as much as they want via their Name-Image-Likeness.
Lebron James makes $50 million against the Lakers salary cap... but earns $300+ million/year from NIL endorsements.
 
NIL legislation will not be struck down by the Supreme Court on antitrust grounds.

The Supreme Court has explicitly stated that legislative actions have antitrust immunity and are not subject to the Sherman Act.
Do you think that the federal government should have a say in how much kids should be making off NIL?
 
Do you think that the federal government should have a say in how much kids should be making off NIL?
No I don't but the NCAA could cap it.Pay all the players a fair salary BUT the higher the grade the bigger the salary.Seniors would make the most and players get a one time transfer...that's it
 
You're absolutely right... and I think the NCAA could work out a salary cap... if they were paying the players a salary. But they aren't... pretty much just cost of attendance (which varies greatly by school [public vs private])

But.... every NBA and NFL player can make as much as they want via their Name-Image-Likeness.
Lebron James makes $50 million against the Lakers salary cap... but earns $300+ million/year from NIL endorsements.

Yup. The only reason these collectives exist is to pool together potential NIL monies and make it less of a crapshoot. Eliminate that altogether and pay the players direct. Make the cap based on the revenues of the top 25 programs on a rolling 5 year basis. Then the players can go seek out additional opportunities with their agent. This collective stuff is just a silly end around.
 
No I don't but the NCAA could cap it.Pay all the players a fair salary BUT the higher the grade the bigger the salary.Seniors would make the most and players get a one time transfer...that's it
That's a lot of moving parts to keep track off... one huge bureaucracy you just created.
 
Maybe but it can be done.Anything beats what we are watching right now.
I disagree... and many others here wouldn't be complaining, if we were doing it right.
Complaining about the changing face of college sports... sounds so much like all those complaining about us when CCC adopted his recruiting model following the NBA minimum age restrictions.
We did it best, and everyone else complained.
Now we suck at it, and are complaining. Indiana isn't complaining, either is West Virginia, Kansas, Texas, Cal, UCSB, Xavier, Florida, and Arkansas... to name a few.
 
The players likely don't think so.

Should we cap coach's salaries too? If I am AD, and seeing some fool make $8 mill /year off my talent... I'd want a pretty big piece of that.
well the collectives only exist because NIL would be so random and fractured without them, and players don't have a base pay. I'd see them not being as important when players have a set salary, agents to help with deals, etc etc

Honestly I'd be in favor of capping coaches salaries, but the top college jobs pay roughly the same as the top NBA jobs, and there's no cap in place there, so it's sort of a non issue.
 
I disagree... and many others here wouldn't be complaining, if we were doing it right.
Complaining about the changing face of college sports... sounds so much like all those complaining about us when CCC adopted his recruiting model following the NBA minimum age restrictions.
We did it best, and everyone else complained.
Now we suck at it, and are complaining. Indiana isn't complaining, either is West Virginia, Kansas, Texas, Cal, UCSB, Xavier, Florida, and Arkansas... to name a few.
If our coach and athletic director were utilizing it correctly,we probably wouldn't be complaining either but we are on the outside looking in.
 
well the collectives only exist because NIL would be so random and fractured without them, and players don't have a base pay. I'd see them not being as important when players have a set salary, agents to help with deals, etc etc

Honestly I'd be in favor of capping coaches salaries, but the top college jobs pay roughly the same as the top NBA jobs, and there's no cap in place there, so it's sort of a non issue.
Coach's salaries are an issue... when an NBA player can make 10X their coach... and an elite college player can make 1/10 what his coach makes.
And... it's the kids that are responsible for all the money the program and the NCAA makes!
So, under your plan for an NCAA mandated base pay... could the kids still make $$ outside that on their own... with their own endorsement deals? Because that is how this started.
 
It's pretty clear Antonio Reeves is attempting to extort Kentucky for maximum NIL cash or he's taking his talents elsewhere.

I did a little research and I think there are some opportunities for him in Lexington...Here are the most obvious at some actual local businesses...

BUD's GUN RANGE...
"When the pressure is on, you don't want to miss ten shots in a row. Follow me to Bud's Gun Range just off the UK campus..."

SEMPER FI INDOOR RANGES...
"From Iwo Jima to Fallujah, Marines have found out that shooting 1-for-15 can get your whole team on the KIA list...The former USMC marksmen at Semper Fi can get you zeroed in."

NATBO FIREARMS TRAINING
"Take it from me: Spraying shots that miss badly is the road to disaster. The experts at NATBO can teach you to recognize a good shot, and hit a winning percentage."
So dumb. How about this one, Target. "When no one else is doing jack in the biggest game of the year on the road, target me, I will come and drop 40 and aim for the bullseye target. I averaged over 40% of my 3 point targets for the year, call on some who is dependable, nobody hit the target 100% of the time." "Ask Arkansas about my target shooting."

I know it was stupid, but fortunately for me, no where near yours.
 
well the collectives only exist because NIL would be so random and fractured without them, and players don't have a base pay. I'd see them not being as important when players have a set salary, agents to help with deals, etc etc

Honestly I'd be in favor of capping coaches salaries, but the top college jobs pay roughly the same as the top NBA jobs, and there's no cap in place there, so it's sort of a non issue.
What about OU football as a model?... their collective pays every player $50,000/year (in addition to what the athletic department is already paying (cost of attendance) via their scholarship)... that is the base, they can individually seek and earn more with outside third parties.
Found this after posting the above... even has a Stoops quote.
 
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It's pretty clear Antonio Reeves is attempting to extort Kentucky for maximum NIL cash or he's taking his talents elsewhere.

I did a little research and I think there are some opportunities for him in Lexington...Here are the most obvious at some actual local businesses...

BUD's GUN RANGE...
"When the pressure is on, you don't want to miss ten shots in a row. Follow me to Bud's Gun Range just off the UK campus..."

SEMPER FI INDOOR RANGES...
"From Iwo Jima to Fallujah, Marines have found out that shooting 1-for-15 can get your whole team on the KIA list...The former USMC marksmen at Semper Fi can get you zeroed in."

NATBO FIREARMS TRAINING
"Take it from me: Spraying shots that miss badly is the road to disaster. The experts at NATBO can teach you to recognize a good shot, and hit a winning percentage."
Lol. Good stuff. Seriously, if he can fit with these guys and become a leader I believe is in him, I say come back play your absolute heart out this season and worry about earning a contract next year in the NBA, i know there’s a ton of players who would like to play here for Kentucky and would be a great fit with the team. It doesn’t have to be a former all American to make a difference here, just have the talent and put forth the effort and I’m happy. I believe in a couple weeks we’ll all be happy with who we have. Of course in my opinion, I think we should’ve already added three or four so they could’ve at least been getting to know each other and practicing together , but Cal is making that unbelievable amount of money to make these decisions, not me. Lol. Now I’d sure take the job if offered. Ha. Anyway. Good post MdWildcat.
 
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Look I'm not saying he's going to be some world beater. But I think it's fair to predict a 8 and 7 type Stat line with a few blocks. And while that might not be stellar.. we won't need him as much as we needed Oscar with the talent we have coming in.
I love the kid and think he’s going to be a heck of a surprise to a lot around the country. And I believe Therio is going to break out and have a fantastic season as well. That young man is going to be a hell of a player for us this season I think. The sky is the limit for both these young men.
 
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It's pretty clear Antonio Reeves is attempting to extort Kentucky for maximum NIL cash or he's taking his talents elsewhere.

I did a little research and I think there are some opportunities for him in Lexington...Here are the most obvious at some actual local businesses...

BUD's GUN RANGE...
"When the pressure is on, you don't want to miss ten shots in a row. Follow me to Bud's Gun Range just off the UK campus..."

SEMPER FI INDOOR RANGES...
"From Iwo Jima to Fallujah, Marines have found out that shooting 1-for-15 can get your whole team on the KIA list...The former USMC marksmen at Semper Fi can get you zeroed in."

NATBO FIREARMS TRAINING
"Take it from me: Spraying shots that miss badly is the road to disaster. The experts at NATBO can teach you to recognize a good shot, and hit a winning percentage."
Thank you for this golden thread idea. I needed a laugh.
 
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The Supreme Court has required the NCAA allow students to obtain other non-cash scholarships, internships and other support beyond the full cost-of-attendance. Only legislation will change things... and even that will likely be struck down by the Supreme Court for the same antitrust issues.
We live in a free-market and capitalistic system... players (as adults) should be paid what the market will bear. No caps on NIL endorsements.
Then the only way is to treat it like pro sports and have a salary cap, that way schools can’t overpay for a kid they want.
 
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Then the only way is to treat it like pro sports and have a salary cap, that way schools can’t overpay for a kid they want.
It's not the schools paying.... It is the independent collectives, the local car dealerships, the shoe companies... Third-party entities that any other talented student (music, drama, etc) could take advantage of.
 
It's pretty clear Antonio Reeves is attempting to extort Kentucky for maximum NIL cash or he's taking his talents elsewhere.

I did a little research and I think there are some opportunities for him in Lexington...Here are the most obvious at some actual local businesses...

BUD's GUN RANGE...
"When the pressure is on, you don't want to miss ten shots in a row. Follow me to Bud's Gun Range just off the UK campus..."

SEMPER FI INDOOR RANGES...
"From Iwo Jima to Fallujah, Marines have found out that shooting 1-for-15 can get your whole team on the KIA list...The former USMC marksmen at Semper Fi can get you zeroed in."

NATBO FIREARMS TRAINING
"Take it from me: Spraying shots that miss badly is the road to disaster. The experts at NATBO can teach you to recognize a good shot, and hit a winning percentage."
Let him go and never look back. Just another drive-by.
 
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Do you think that the federal government should have a say in how much kids should be making off NIL?
It would depend upon the circumstances, the intent of the legislation and how the legislation is structured.

But that’s not really relevant to my post, which was simply to point out that your comment about the Supreme Court striking down NIL legislation on antitrust grounds is not accurate.
 
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It's pretty clear Antonio Reeves is attempting to extort Kentucky for maximum NIL cash or he's taking his talents elsewhere.

I did a little research and I think there are some opportunities for him in Lexington...Here are the most obvious at some actual local businesses...

BUD's GUN RANGE...
"When the pressure is on, you don't want to miss ten shots in a row. Follow me to Bud's Gun Range just off the UK campus..."

SEMPER FI INDOOR RANGES...
"From Iwo Jima to Fallujah, Marines have found out that shooting 1-for-15 can get your whole team on the KIA list...The former USMC marksmen at Semper Fi can get you zeroed in."

NATBO FIREARMS TRAINING
"Take it from me: Spraying shots that miss badly is the road to disaster. The experts at NATBO can teach you to recognize a good shot, and hit a winning percentage."

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We would be willing to do an NIL with Antonio Reeves. It could possibly be six figures but BBN would have to get behind it AND if has to be willing to do some work for it.

Let him know.

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Reeves wanting NIL isn't the problem.

John Calipari's handling of NIL is the problem. Give me Reeves and go get a different coach that embraces this stuff.

They want to act like We're UK and we can do NIL however we want. But they've handicapped the program. If we do NIL like everyone else, we should be able to get back to being a power house. Or we can keep doing what we're doing and wonder why we haven't been to a Sweet 16 in years.
 
It's pretty clear Antonio Reeves is attempting to extort Kentucky for maximum NIL cash or he's taking his talents elsewhere.

I did a little research and I think there are some opportunities for him in Lexington...Here are the most obvious at some actual local businesses...

BUD's GUN RANGE...
"When the pressure is on, you don't want to miss ten shots in a row. Follow me to Bud's Gun Range just off the UK campus..."

SEMPER FI INDOOR RANGES...
"From Iwo Jima to Fallujah, Marines have found out that shooting 1-for-15 can get your whole team on the KIA list...The former USMC marksmen at Semper Fi can get you zeroed in."

NATBO FIREARMS TRAINING
"Take it from me: Spraying shots that miss badly is the road to disaster. The experts at NATBO can teach you to recognize a good shot, and hit a winning percentage."
Ja Morant has got those rapped up
 
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