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NICK RICHARDS officially back (per his IG)

This team will be driven by our small forwards, they will be our primary point production. Nick has to rebound consistently, he needs to do that at a minimum and everything else is a bonus.
 
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Whatever dude people have killed him on here for two years now that he’s coming back everyone wants to pretend he’s gonna be Hakeem the dream. Everyone’s great in the offseason

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With 28-32 mins a game, I think we’ll see a big time jump from him. Foul trouble will be the key for him.....
You just contradicted yourself.
....He will foul
....28 minutes is not happening

But we do not need 28. Just 20 good minutes a game.
 
This team will be driven by our small forwards, they will be our primary point production. Nick has to rebound consistently, he needs to do that at a minimum and everything else is a bonus.
Rim protection is on him as well. He can be one of the top shot blockers in the country if he works at it.
 
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Well, yea. 2.6 minutes would be an increase of 20%+ pt. I would think someone who is as foul prone as you like to believe would see an increase. Why would you not? It should obviously increase accordingly to his avg, should it not? So again, why did it not?

No, you tried to say per 40 while actually giving us his over 40 mpg because you evidently did not know how to break it down into an actual per 40.

But his number doesn't go higher when he plays more, there are 17 games of 20+ to show this to be fact. Not to mention the games where he still plays more than his avg and still doesn't avg that high. The evidence proves that the games he plays less and gets pulled in and out the most are the games he fouls the most. Which corresponds to have said about him needed to be established with the flow of the game to be at his best.

He can definitely improve his fouls and every other aspect of his game, but I, and the stats support that he is not more foul prone the more minutes he plays as you have stated. Which is why you literally can provide no evidence to support it. You've taken a generalized statistic to represent your belief without breaking down what those numbers are actually telling you.

What have I cherry picked? I think you may want to look up what that term means.

Can't beat it with facts? You have yet to provide any. You literally tried to break down a per 40 that equated to almost 42 MPG. That is not a fact! That is just poor arithmetic.

Vast majority? There have been like 5 people comment on it. I don't subscribe to the grouthink mentality that exist on this board, so having people disagree with me really isn't an issue at all. I don't rely on certain posters here for my source of protein like others who latch on so tightly.


Why would you need to round it? Are you not able to break it down into actual numbers?

As others have pointed out, you’re a lost cause, a troll, or both. Again, it adds up to 40.2. Unless one other person comes to your defense that Richards isn’t foul prone I’m not going to engage further. I wouldn’t count on that happening though, because he clearly is. I hope he improves on this for next season. Have a great rest of your Tuesday my man.
 
As others have pointed out, you’re a lost cause, a troll, or both. Again, it adds up to 40.2. Unless one other person comes to your defense that Richards isn’t foul prone I’m not going to engage further. I wouldn’t count on that happening though, because he clearly is. I hope he improves on this for next season. Have a great rest of your Tuesday my man.
Lol, but 40.2 still isn't a per 40. Why can't you break it down to an actual per 40?

Do you think if someones playing time increases by over 20%, and their other production increases accordingly, that their fouls would as well? Paricularly if they are so foul prone? :popcorn:

If you read over you will see a couple who seem to be in support of my conclusion.

Are trolls as supportive of UK and the players as I am?

You too! :victory:
 
Or, could it be that when he is allowed to actually play and get established in a game without being yanked, he gets comfortable enough with flow to not foul as much? :scream:

You think Cal pulls him just for the sake of pulling him ? NO. He pulls him because he has about 3 mental lapses in a short period of time. Usually involves a missed assignment, losses a sure handed rebound, or commits a silly, uncalled for foul, or two of the things combined.
Love the kid, the talent is there, he just needs to get mentally stronger and go out and just play the game, and let his great athleticism take over. But, he will make a good play, then make a mistake, then compound it with a stupid foul. Several times last year, he came in, make 3 or 4 costly mistakes and we lost all of the momentum of the game. Cal had to yank him, once he losses his confidence, it shows big time. he just keep sinking further and further and hangs his head.
 
You think Cal pulls him just for the sake of pulling him ? NO. He pulls him because he has about 3 mental lapses in a short period of time. Usually involves a missed assignment, losses a sure handed rebound, or commits a silly, uncalled for foul, or two of the things combined.
Love the kid, the talent is there, he just needs to get mentally stronger and go out and just play the game, and let his great athleticism take over. But, he will make a good play, then make a mistake, then compound it with a stupid foul. Several times last year, he came in, make 3 or 4 costly mistakes and we lost all of the momentum of the game. Cal had to yank him, once he losses his confidence, it shows big time. he just keep sinking further and further and hangs his head.
You are exactly right. He makes a lot of dumb mistakes that limit his pt, some which cause him to foul. But I do not think he gets benched for the fouls, but moreso because of being lost, out of position, not rebounding, not being aggressive enough, lack of motor and so forth.
 
Glad he is coming back. Now he needs to look the ball into his hands on every rebound and pass he receives! The most important thing is playing time! I hope he gets plenty of it!
 
I appreciate Nick’s loyalty even if he didn’t really have a choice. He could have chose to be a moron like some guys and left even though he wouldn’t be drafted but he didn’t. Look forward to seeing him next year.
 
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If he can play loose like he did in the Bahamas he could get drafted! It’s mental! If he makes a mistake and would just let it go and keep playing it would be big for him!

Nick
Brooks
Whitney
Maxey
Hagans
Starting 5
 
Fouling when you are fatigued is one thing and a likely issue, but that doesn't equal foul proned. Particularly when you look at the games he had played 20+ minutes to only fouling out 1 times and only reaching 4 fouls 2 other times. That's 14 games out of 17 that support the opposite.

I like NR and very happy he’s returning.

Kenny Payne and Cal call him foul proned and that it usually is the result of stamina. Take it up with them if you disagree.

Again, I’m glad he’s back and I’m sure Cal is too.
 
Defense starts. Eight man rotation by conference play.
5. Nick
4. Sestina
3. Whitney
2. Maxey
1. Hagans

Brooks over Sestina at the 4. We need Sestina to back up the 5, unless we get another big.

G Hagans/Quickley
G Maxey/Quickley
F Whitney/Juzang
F Brooks/Whitney
F Richards/Sestina

We really need another big man, preferably Montgomery.
 
Glad to have you back Nick. You have the talent. Don't worry about making mistakes. It's your time to shine.
 
This retention will be underrated. Nick reminds me of a solid big stuck in a large rotation at UNC. Bryce Johnson split minutes for the longest time with NBA prospects and then turned out to be a college basketball star when he finally had his turn. I hope Nick will follow a similar path.
 
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Odd how his gf will not get enough hours, and will have to return for
NR's senior season.
 
Um, it's actually great.

Not sure why some of you don't get it. I was surprised last year when he didn't do the same thing.

They all should test the water because that allows them to really work on the game with professional level.

Being challenged at the professional level is most likely better than just practicing at UK (during summer).

I understand that.

It's one thing for a guy to go through the process for the experience and information he'll receive.

It's the fact that these guys like Nick are going through the process and expecting to get feedback that would solidify a decision they made before they got to Kentucky...Leave in one year regardless of how you play.

We have to worry about a guy like Richards leaving for the draft. That isn't a good thing.
 
There are 17 games of 20+ to show this to be fact.

Or... he's only played 20+ minutes 17 times because he's usually in foul trouble. You have it backward. "When he plays 20+ minutes he doesn't foul" is a ludicrously dumb interpretation. He played 20+ minutes because he was both playing well and not fouling, and that's only happened 17 times in 74 games. A career average of 6.1 fouls per 40 is high, that's an indisputable fact. Nick has shown some ability, but he needs to be able to stay on the floor, which means fouling less.
 
Or... he's only played 20+ minutes 17 times because he's usually in foul trouble. You have it backward. "When he plays 20+ minutes he doesn't foul" is a ludicrously dumb interpretation. He played 20+ minutes because he was both playing well and not fouling, and that's only happened 17 times in 74 games. A career average of 6.1 fouls per 40 is high, that's an indisputable fact. Nick has shown some ability, but he needs to be able to stay on the floor, which means fouling less.
I mean we could go with that, but if you break it down a bit further it the facts don't really support that conclusion either. If you consider the other 57 games, he was in what would be considered foul trouble in 12 games. That leaves 45 games where fouls still weren't an issue. That means he has been in foul trouble in less than 20% of the games he has played. So are we really willing to ignore 80% of the games he has played in favor of promoting a narrative that is only evident in 20% of the total body of work?

I think if you look closely you will find he was pulled in a vast majority of the games he's played for reasons other than fouls.


Also, if he is so foul prone, then why did his fouls not increase at all when his PT increased by 20% this past season from last?
 
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Also, if he is so foul prone, then why did his fouls not increase at all when his PT increased by 20% this past season from last?

His minutes didn't increase, they decreased, and he had the same number of fouls. He fouled more as a sophomore than he did as a freshman, on a per-40 basis (6.8 as a sophomore after 5.6 as a freshman).

You are objectively wrong. You are either emotionally unable to admit that you are wrong, or you're trolling.
 
I'm very happy for Nick. I'm going to be his biggest fan. I wish him nothing but the best.
 
His minutes didn't increase, they decreased, and he had the same number of fouls. He fouled more as a sophomore than he did as a freshman, on a per-40 basis (6.8 as a sophomore after 5.6 as a freshman).

You are objectively wrong. You are either emotionally unable to admit that you are wrong, or you're trolling.
LMAO, his foul rate stayed identical when his minutes were 20% higher, yet you think he fouls more now?

Then explain why when he was called on to play more after Reid and Washington were out, yet his foul rate stayed identical. He jumped to 17.5 mpg during that stretch and his foul rate was 2.5. So an increase in 5.4 MPG and his foul rate went up 0.4%. That seems pretty avg to me.

Again, his rate being lower when he played more his freshman year just further iterates my point.
 
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