If Duke gets Edgecombe (very likely) and Harper (less likely but a chance) than that will be the greatest recruiting class ever. Not close.
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Wrong, as per usual from you.
The best class was, and likely always will be, Kentucky's 2013 class. 5 in the top10, plus another top25 guy. You're likely never going to see that again, simply because one or two of those guys will likely opt for more playing time elsehwere. But we were fortunate to basically get a 2-for-1 deal with the Harrison Twins.
It's the best class on paper, even when you're done hypothetically adding recruits to Duke's class, like Harper.
That's a little premature.
So Duke would have a 2024 class of 1, 2, 6, 15, 18, 25, and 60 (composite) with 2 and 6 up in the air.
Just 6 years ago, in 2018, Duke got 1, 3, 7, 14, and 43 (with 7 absurdly being Zion)
UK pulled in 2, 5, 6, 9, 10, 18, 126, and 129 back in 2013.
Either of those are easily in the ballpark and you haven't gotten 2 or 6 yet. Plus if any more reclassify, it will push some of yours down the list.
Flagg is far and away a better prospect than anyone from that 2013 class (including Wiggins and Jabari) so those numbers don't mean much.
That very well may be true. Or.. maybe he gets hurt in November. Or maybe the other Duke recruits all are weaker.
Regardless, the 2013 UK class is the best on paper class in history.. and it seems that isn't changing anytime soon.
Flagg also isn't "far and away" a better prospect than Wiggins was. It's much closer than you make it out to be. Wiggins was seen as one of the best HS recruits since Lebron. Maybe do your homework a little more.
Just gonna agree to disagree. The numbers are just that...numbers. They don't tell the whole story and they don't identify if it is a weak class/strong class. There can be a world of difference between the #1 player in one class versus another. Sorry but I have a hard time believing that any class with Julius Randle (a nice player, but not a generational talent) as the top piece is the greatest class ever. Not to mention the Twins were okay, but definitely never lived up to their billing.
Mathematically, sure congrats. But my eyes tell me otherwise. Heck, I think the 2011 UK class with Davis, MKG, etc. was a stronger class than the 2013 class. And I don't need 3, 6, 8, 10, 17 whatever to tell me that. The 2009 John Wall class I would take over 2013 as well. Use your eyes more and the rankings less.
Yeah that is too funny, I think a guy named Embiid, the raining NBA MVP was in that class as well. May want to hold your horses on Flagg LOFL!
So you can look at Flagg and tell he will be better than Randle and Wiggins, damn man, let the kid play his High School season first.
The greatest class after the fact was definitely Michigans fab five. Is cooper Flagg better than Webber? Lmao
I think there is a strong chance he ends up better than Chris Webber.
Dude they haven't even played a game yet and you somehow "know" they will be better. Which is funny to hear your expertise when you clearly didn't know about Wiggins recruitment and how highly touted he was.
Someone get this guy out of here already.
Not for nothing but coach K is still "the man" albeit just behind the scenes. He doesn't sit on the bench now (hell, he doesn't go to games) BUT he still has HIS office (palace) at the top of the basketball building. He's still consulted by Jon and staff and he still has to give his blessing. Moreover, recruits and parents still "bump into him" all the time. I believe one of his daughters may still be on the bball staff. Make no mistake, Jon Scheyer may have a plaque on the door that says coach but the behind-the-scenes but still very much involved K is around. This has a big influence.
Being all over the transfer portal and picking up the right players from the portal are two different things.
Yeah!!... I guess is what you would say if you're a typical Duke fan. But what about the returning players? What about the most impactful incoming CBB players in a current season, i.e., the top players from the transfer Portal? Does just getting the highest composite ranked recruiting class of high school seniors (or reclassification candidates) mean Duke is the favorite to win a title - or really, even one of the top 3-4 favorites?
No, I do not think so. I believe the best way to win big in the modern era is to blend elite talent with experience, you need to have a lot of luck too (more than just good injury luck.) The transfer portal is a new weapon that allows programs to regroup/reload quicker than they used to be. Due to the transfer portal, I feel like there will be less elite teams and more parity annually.
But, having the #1 ranked recruiting class certainly helps. I firmly believe that having 5-star non-freshman is a golden ticket to success. Duke has 4 of those guys this year (Roach, Flip, Proctor, Mitchell). The 2012 UK title team had Lamb & Jones as non-freshman 5 stars, maybe another that I am missing.
The elite talent that Duke is stacking up on for next year tells me Scheyer believes there will be a mass exodus after this year. So while I believe this years Duke team should be the title favorites, next years team could be super talented but super head-scratching at times.
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Good points. And Duke certainly seems to be able to get those guys projected as draft picks (largely on potential, rather than demonstrated performance) to come back for a sophomore year (maybe JR year) more often than other programs. And when you can do that, you are stacking classes (e.g., Alabama football) and those 5-stars really become more valuable in my opinion. At that point, you've got at least sophomores to carry the weight of an offense (guys who are now probably converting more of that "talent" into winning production) and the freshmen are basically supplemental pieces (generally always their best use for a contending team). But I don't see other programs being able to stack classes - and getting the "No. 1" ranked recruiting class each year is not stacking the classes if most (all?) of those 5-stars leave after their freshman year - and I don't think Duke will be able to do that enough to make constantly churning the team over with a 3-4 starting freshmen each year a successful roster building approach. So, I say give the recruiting title perennially to Duke - as long as it continues to be based on composite rankings of high schoolers.
Only a noob fan would say such an idiotic thing before even watching how a recruiting class meshes together.
You're a terrible poster. Why the mods haven't banned your filthy presence from this message board is beyond me.
P.S., we're all still laughing at the fact that Coach K lost in the Final Four to UNC. Absolutely hilarious stuff!
SOS, just keep reporting him. I don't mind some of the regular rival fans who come here, but this guy is doing nothing but trolling.
UNC has bragging rights over Duke for the next like 20 years! Beating K on his last home game and then sending their ass home in the final four! Cant get much better than that! lolol
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