NC lawmakers pass a bill saying UNC has to leave the ACC if they boycott NC again.
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That is strong stuff. The perfect way to react to PC Snowflakes and virtue signalers. The LAST thing the NCAA wants is to lose UNC. The same goes for NCST.
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I think it is fair. The ACC made a decision to try and hurt NC's economy by pulling events from there and I think NC has a right to try and hurt the ACC's profits by pulling their schools.
Well it's the ACC, the NCAA would laugh their ass off if UNC went NAIA. Also, the ACC owns UNC's media rights until 2036.
That's the thing, the ACC owns their media rights. It would destroy UNC to leave. They would get zero tv/radio revenue. All of their media revenue would go to the ACC.
Can someone please explain this dynamic to the simpletons such as myself? TIA
.....and they had Marylands before they moved to the Big10. Everything is a negotiation and certainly the move to the SEC would help cushion the blow financially just as it did for Maryland.
The buyout to leave was increased to some astronomical number after Maryland left.
All I know is that this has been much ado about nothing.
No they didn't, the ACC made schools sign away their GOR after Maryland left to keep the conference together. Maryland just had to play the exit fee, they negotiated it down from like $50 million to $30 million.
I'm sure there are other ways the NCAA can be hurt by state legislatures. And I'm pretty sure they will get cooperation from other states. Remember both them and the NBA threatened Indiana already. Other neighboring states like Georgia have already discussed passing similar laws. The NCAA will find themselves with far more enemies than friends on this. I'm sure both the NCAA and NBA can be hurt badly if they want to keep pushing the PC B.S.
If they dick with UNC and St if they decide to leave...then there is still an issue with the remaining ACC private schools....which the legislature can certainly devise a way to screw with the NCAA who will still need to deal with games etc for those schools. The NCAA will be in a bad position if they play hardball.
A special NCAA official/employee tax of 100% of revenue generated or wages, from sporting activities in NC facilities....
It is a good rule of thumb to not jerk around with someone who has is own revenue service department and the ability to audit.
So you think the "snowflakes" are the people who want everyone to be free to love whomever they choose, but the tough guys are people who want to force everyone to do what they do, even though it has no impact on their lives whatsoever? The ones who cower in fear of people who are different from them?
You have a very sound, logical, well-reasoned train of thought.
What does being free to love whomever you want have anything to do with HB2?
HB2 was in response to Charlotte crossing the line with a city ordnance. What ended up happening was Charlotte voted the ordnance down, and NC withdrew HB2, so everything is back to the way it was before Charlotte acted.
This has nothing to do with hb2, it accompanies the new bill they're presenting to invalidate/ban gay marriages. It's supposed to be a protection from backlash if that bill passed.
http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...-introduce-bill-ban-same-sex-marriage-n745606
North Carolina has decided to have separate bathrooms for cheaters.... it's the one with the long line.
No, this proposed bill is a direct retaliation because of the way the NCAA pulled events because of HB2.
Because they're expecting more retaliation, since they're presenting a new bill violating human rights. It's to the point where it seems like the NC legislature's sole function is to piss off as many people as possible, while simultaneously hurting it's own economy.
(Edit) so I guess it does relate to hb2 in that it shows they learned these types of bills are hurtful, but didn't learn to embrace freedom, but instead that they should try to insulate themselves when stripping personal liberties.
What about the rights of people who do not want men in the same bathrooms as their daughters?
The problem with using the violation of rights things is to give one person theirs, you have to trample anothers. Whose are more important? Who gets to make that choice?
You can't say it isn't an issue as there are several cases of men using the bathroom law to get into women's restrooms and take pictures or assault women.
A. No one should be taking anyone's picture in the bathroom or assaulting anyone regardless of sex/gender. If a someone else is snapping photos of you peeing or feeling you up, are you cool with it as long as they were born the same sex as you? No, so that behavior isn't tolerated by anyone. Sex, gender doesn't even come into play. That's a universal wrong.
B. There are some very masculine people who were born female, and some very feminine people who were born male. Trying to tell who was born how is basically impossible, and by the time it's complete, they likely would have pissed themselves any way.
C. That's a moot point, as that Bill's done. Imo, banning any marriages is far worse, as individual personal contracts shouldn't even be in government's domain.
Man those conservatives sure can be a bunch of snowflakes. Taking their ball and going home!
First of all, it is your opinion thats why they're introducing it. This proposed bill is a way to prevent the NCAA from pulling events for anything it chooses unfit. It's not the NCAA's role or function to wade into state law making.
What personal liberties were removed in HB2? HB2 was in response to Charlotte crossing a line that wasn't necessary, things are now back to where they were before, so HB2 worked, correct?
Lastly, Charlotte's ordnance was nothing but an election year act, to raise voter emotion. Basically a large block of voters got played for the law to end up right back to where it started.
It wasn't just sexual gender, it was ridiculous from the get go.
The government was telling people which public facilities they were allowed to use. I agree that both were stupid and I'm glad they're off the books. Less government intervention in daily affairs is a huge positive.
As to the two new ones being related as an opinion, I'd argue it's a very logical one. Tell me this, do you really think the timing of the two is merely coincidental?
In my house we all use the same bathrooms. It's not even controversial.
The ACC would be owed $50 million per team and each schools media revenue for 19 years.
And why did the state of North Carolina go that route? Because the city of Charlotte decided they were going to make it legal for anyone to use any gender bathroom.
Like I wrote, we're right back to where we were originally, so what was the point of Charlotte's ordnance? To rile up voters in the city in an election year, had nothing to do with social justice or liberties.
I think that only goes into effect if UNC left voluntarily for another conference. If the State of North Carolina says our teams aren't playing in a conference thats trying undermine our state legislature,then the 50 million would likely be off the table.
How are they trying to undermine their legislature? They're fully within their rights.
Well I don't know the specifics of the ACC exit fee, I just know $50 million is peanuts compared to the ACC owning UNC and State's GOR until 2036. They absolutely own their media rights for damn near the next 20 years no matter where they play.
I should have clarified my use of "both" meaning Charlotte ordinance and hb2. One created a problem, one magnified it, both were detrimental to the state's citizens and its economy. I'm glad we're back where we started, and hopefully the non-issue that became an issue for the purpose of political posturing will again fade into the background and disappear altogether.
It was a liberties thing because how you were born dictated which bathroom you could use, just like it did previously in history, only the division then was "white" and "colored." But again, Charlotte shouldn't have enacted it's law, NC shouldn't have enacted its response, but it's water under the bridge at this point.
Because the NCAA has no right to get into a political scrum to try and sway laws in that state.
What if they decided to boycott KY because the state just approved bailing out the Yum Center? Its a matter the state handles, not the NCAA.
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