NBA's Mt. Rushmore of 'Empty Stats'
- Thread starter gamecockcat
- Start date
Not sure if anyone mentioned but I think Chris Paul fits this mold. Just always have found him to be overrated.
Last edited:
Wait a minute, I admit I don't follow the NBA very much at all (close to zero) but Carmelo Anthony was still playing in the NBA this season? Did I read that right? Wow. Anyway, carry on...
This was also my first thought, but I didn’t wanna say it because it always stirs up anger here when you do.
But, since you brought it up, YES, absolutely. Pete belongs in this discussion way before any of the guys that the OP listed.
Agreed, no way Jason Kidd belongs on this list. He won a title with Dallas/Dirk, and lost in Finals twice with the Nets. He is the exact opposite of someone who should be on this list. Every team he ever played for got better when he played. He had one of the top 5 basketball IQs as a player that I've seen.
Melo recently announced his retirement last week or so but most pretty much assumed after sitting out a year at his age plus many thinking he was done initially after being bought out by Houston a few years ago that he wasn't coming back. Just a formality thing I guess.
Back to OP, I'm listing DeMar DeRozan as one of the current ones in today's game.
How can he have big assist totals when one of the best scorers he played with on a Finals team was Dikembe Mutombo?
I c
The same argument you use to trash Popovich and Kerr can be used against Phil Collins or Red Auerbach; neither won a single championship without a superstar leading their teams.
Nobody wins without great players AND good coaching.
Iverson and especially Dominique Wilkins don’t belong anywhere near that list. Both of those guys were great players. There organizations were train wrecks.
It's all about the teammates that surround the players.
The post-Shaq/pre-Gasol era, Kobe was putting up crazy scoring numbers, but was rarely winning. Kobe asked to be traded, so the Lakers get Pau Gasol, Kobe wins an MVP and then reaches the NBA Finals. If not for that trade, are we putting Kobe on the list?
How many of the players mentioned on awful teams were a Pau Gasol away from a deep playoff run? It shows the stupidity of some of the Lebron criticisms.
The post-Shaq/pre-Gasol era, Kobe was putting up crazy scoring numbers, but was rarely winning. Kobe asked to be traded, so the Lakers get Pau Gasol, Kobe wins an MVP and then reaches the NBA Finals. If not for that trade, are we putting Kobe on the list?
How many of the players mentioned on awful teams were a Pau Gasol away from a deep playoff run? It shows the stupidity of some of the Lebron criticisms.
