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My take on the officiating

kygent2

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I am a basketball official, and that game was officiated horribly, to me it was very obvious Kentucky had no chance from the beginning, through the bad officiating and terrible play on defense from us, we still had a shot, until the bad call on the 3-point shot, that call took the air out of us. I know Orlandis Poole, he lives in my area of Virginia, and I have his phone number, I wanted to text him so bad after the game, but I didn't want to be an azz, even though he was bad, Steven Anderson killed us, he made 90% calls against Kentucky. If I was coaching that game, I would have definitely got tossed, sometimes you have to protest in a way that doesn't get you fined, and that's expressing your frustration during the game.
 
What can be done as a coach when the calls aren’t going your way. If Pope would have been tossed would the calls have changed? Does a coach getting tossed draw more attention to the calls happening during the game? Seems like nothing happens to the officials even when they call games and are called out for bad calls.
 
There were some really bad calls no debate. But, let's say there were 5 glaringly no debate ones. We still would have lost the game based upon everything else observed. It just would have been a closer score. I know that won't be a popular take here. But, do you honestly feel our terrible outside shooting and terrible rebounding would have changed? Our defense and rebounding has been bad in games where the refs were not bad. It is a problem that needs correcting, if possible, or there will be more losses refs or not.
 
There were some really bad calls no debate. But, let's say there were 5 glaringly no debate ones. We still would have lost the game based upon everything else observed. It just would have been a closer score. I know that won't be a popular take here. But, do you honestly feel our terrible outside shooting and terrible rebounding would have changed? Our defense and rebounding has been bad in games where the refs were not bad. It is a problem that needs correcting, if possible, or there will be more losses refs or not.
Sometimes making a scene to call out an extremely bad referee ignites the team to play with heart to overcome the situation. We badly needed more heart in that game.
 
There were some really bad calls no debate. But, let's say there were 5 glaringly no debate ones. We still would have lost the game based upon everything else observed. It just would have been a closer score. I know that won't be a popular take here. But, do you honestly feel our terrible outside shooting and terrible rebounding would have changed? Our defense and rebounding has been bad in games where the refs were not bad. It is a problem that needs correcting, if possible, or there will be more losses refs or not.

There were multiple egregious calls at critical points in the game that prevented us from slicing the margin and putting game pressure on Georgia.

Down 7, we knock it out of bounds off Georgia. They get the ball and bank a three.

Down 5, foul when a three point shooter falls down.

Down 7, Robinson rebounding foul on flop. Walk 94 feet for free throws to stretch to 9 instead of cutting to 5.

Among others.

I don’t know if we would have won with fair officiating, but we would have had a chance. We had little chance with a crooked whistle, in what was likely to be a tight game under the best of circumstances.
 
What can be done as a coach when the calls aren’t going your way. If Pope would have been tossed would the calls have changed? Does a coach getting tossed draw more attention to the calls happening during the game? Seems like nothing happens to the officials even when they call games and are called out for bad calls.
For a school like Kentucky, it brings more attention to the game, and then once Kentucky complains, it is looked into, granted we know most of the time nothing is done, but on the inside the officials are evaluated and counseled on their performance
 
What can be done as a coach when the calls aren’t going your way. If Pope would have been tossed would the calls have changed? Does a coach getting tossed draw more attention to the calls happening during the game? Seems like nothing happens to the officials even when they call games and are called out for bad calls.
I have witnessed a lot of games where a game is officiated differently after the coach gets a technical for calling out the refs bs calls. It didn't seem to work for Cal because they all seemed to hate him either way. 🤣
 
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I am a basketball official, and that game was officiated horribly, to me it was very obvious Kentucky had no chance from the beginning, through the bad officiating and terrible play on defense from us, we still had a shot, until the bad call on the 3-point shot, that call took the air out of us. I know Orlandis Poole, he lives in my area of Virginia, and I have his phone number, I wanted to text him so bad after the game, but I didn't want to be an azz, even though he was bad, Steven Anderson killed us, he made 90% calls against Kentucky. If I was coaching that game, I would have definitely got tossed, sometimes you have to protest in a way that doesn't get you fined, and that's expressing your frustration during the game.
So, what can I personally do to get you to text him and be that 'azz?' I'm all ears :D
 
Ya can’t be tough on the bench with foul issues. And no player wants to foul out. So. If they’re calling bs it changes the way players play. Especially the physical part.
It's not just the physical part, it's the mental too. I guess you can hand wave the mental aspect saying be mentally tougher, but imagine playing a game of chess and a referee just comes by and takes two of your pieces... The mental effect of knowing you're getting shafted is just as impactful as the missing pieces.
 
There were multiple egregious calls at critical points in the game that prevented us from slicing the margin and putting game pressure on Georgia.

Down 7, we knock it out of bounds off Georgia. They get the ball and bank a three.

Down 5, foul when a three point shooter falls down.

Down 7, Robinson rebounding foul on flop. Walk 94 feet for free throws to stretch to 9 instead of cutting to 5.

Among others.

I don’t know if we would have won with fair officiating, but we would have had a chance. We had little chance with a crooked whistle, in what was likely to be a tight game under the best of circumstances.
There were some really bad calls no debate. But, let's say there were 5 glaringly no debate ones. We still would have lost the game based upon everything else observed. It just would have been a closer score. I know that won't be a popular take here. But, do you honestly feel our terrible outside shooting and terrible rebounding would have changed? Our defense and rebounding has been bad in games where the refs were not bad. It is a problem that needs correcting, if possible, or there will be more losses refs or not.
What @Aike said. And it’s not only that so many bad calls came at critical nodes in the game, although that was certainly key. It’s also that, “let's say there were 5 glaringly no debate” bad calls: that does not equal a maximum swing of ten points in the game.

In the same way Anthony Davis used to be able to deconstruct an opposing team’s entire offense for 40 minutes with only five blocks, five really bad calls (or missed calls) changes everything else in a million ways because now you have to try to find a completely different way of doing things, hoping it will somehow be able to make up for the fact that apparently the normal rules of fair play aren’t available for you anymore. It affects the entire game and can easily cause way more than a ten-point swing. We really were playing five on eight.
 
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What @Aike said. And it’s not only that so many bad calls came at critical nodes in the game, although that was certainly key. It’s also that, “let's say there were 5 glaringly no debate” bad calls: that does not equal a maximum swing of ten points in the game.

In the same way Anthony Davis used to be able to deconstruct an opposing team’s entire offense for 40 minutes with only five blocks, five really bad calls (or missed calls) changes everything else in a million ways because now you have to try to find a completely different way of doing things, hoping it will somehow be able to make up for the fact that apparently the normal rules of fair play aren’t available for you anymore. It affects the entire game and can easily cause way more than a ten-point swing. We really were playing five on eight.

Good points. I didn’t even mention the “strategic” removal of our physically toughest player in the first 5 minutes of the game on a rebounding foul and a moving screen.

Or the Andrew Carr flagrant that gave UGA a chance at 6+ points on one trip.

Which maybe you could live with, if they didn’t go to the monitor when Oweh was fouled at midcourt to prevent a breakaway, and judge that a common foul.
 
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