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Murray

Can we simply call this recruiting class a wrap and possibly save a little of our remaining dignity?
Our "remaining dignity" would be untouched if fans like you would stop acting like children and have a little perspective instead of wringing your hands.
 
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Some please answer a few questions for me.

1st: Why does everyone say we "need" him when he is labeled as a Point Guard and we already have two top PG's on the team.

2nd: Why does anyone think we would run a 3 PG line up? I assume now Poythress will play the 3, Lee 4, and 5 Skal.

3rd: What gives UK fans any feeling that he is even thinking about coming here? Does he have UK listed?Everyone keeps talking about him and even if he reclassifies, what makes him think he will go to UK and be a 3rd PG?

He is a great player and can score the ball, but doubt he would come to UK in 2015 to play SF.


1. Good question.

2. I don't think that is necessarily the lineup we will see. October practice will be interesting.

3. Murray and Maker are wildcards in this class because they are Canadian high school teammates who might or might not reclassify into the 2015 class. Because their decisions about 2015 are fluid, their recruiting process is not as far along as the high school seniors. Both are said to be considering Kentucky. In Murray's case, the main competition seems to be Oregon and Duke but this is just what we hear on the internet. In Maker's case, Arizona State and Indiana. The recent reclassification and Duke commitment by Derryck Thornton may focus Murray on Oregon and Kentucky, but there is still time for Murray to widen his recruitment if he wants. He doesn't have to sign a letter this month unless he is sure. If he is committed in his mind to play point guard in college, it would not make sense for him to sign with Kentucky in this class because of Ulis and Briscoe. But if he is willing to use his length and scoring skills as a wing player, Kentucky would make a lot of sense for him. It is impossible for us to know what is in the kid's mind, or even whether he will sign in the 2015 class at all. Murray's recruitment has nothing to do with Cheick Diallo or Jaylen Brown. Fans who think losing those other guys should have any influence on Murray or Maker probably don't understand where these 2 guys are in their decision process. I would be happy to get 1 of them, ecstatic to get both.
 
What does my age have anything to do with it? I have seen enough basketball to know, and you've played 3 PG's in basketball before?!?! What in pickup ball? This is college were talking here...

You clearly have no clue.
Did you not watch even us this past season where we has Ulis, Andrew and Aaron on the floor at the same time? all three are more than capable of running the point. And they played very very well together, possibly our best combo we put on the floor.
Murray is fairly tall and his handles have gotten much better always has had excellent scoring skills and passing. He is just projected as a point for the nba. Like Newman, right now Newman is no pg.
With Murray he would be grabbing the 2 spot as a starter and Ulis the 1. Briscoe would be backing up either of them or the 3, if he is better than Mulder or Matthews then he will be taking their spot at the 3.
Remember this is not brain surgery or putting the man on the moon but basketball. It was so easy of Cal to move Poy or Lyles to the 3 because they could play the position and as the best players we had they saw the floor at the 3. They didn't sit down behind Kat because he was better but they played another position.
So easy a caveman can do it.
 
Poythress will not play the 3 and if Lee is your starting 4 we will be in trouble. I like Lee off the bench but not starting. I think Matthews will be better than people think.
Lee will be fine. Just remember what he did his freshman year in the tourney. The reason he hasn't done well is because he doesn't get any clock. You will see a different lee next year.
 
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It is absolutely amazing to me that Calipari recruits arguably the top class in the country every year, ever since he got to Lexington - just signed Labissiere and Briscoe too -then, we have a couple of weeks of tough recruiting news and a large part of our fan base immediately develops this weeny attitude and turns on Coach. Unbelievable.
my statement had nothing at all to do with Cal
 
Lee will be fine. Just remember what he did his freshman year in the tourney.
We remember. He scored on dunks and offensive rebounds, and it looked impressive because he is an explosive leaper. Like all players, Lee has strengths and weaknesses. He is an outstanding offensive rebounder and an improving defensive player who has no offensive game whatsoever outside 5 feet from the rim. In other words, he is a nice complimentary piece. But he hits less than 40% of his free throws, a weakness that will be exploited by good teams. So until Lee develops scoring skills and learns to hit 60% of his free throws, he isn't a starter on a contending team. This doesn't mean he isn't a promising player. He still has a high upside, if he can learn to create some offense. But you will be surprised how Lee's limitations will stand out when KAT, WCS, and Lyles aren't on the floor.
 
We remember. He scored on dunks and offensive rebounds, and it looked impressive because he is an explosive leaper. Like all players, Lee has strengths and weaknesses. He is an outstanding offensive rebounder and an improving defensive player who has no offensive game whatsoever outside 5 feet from the rim. In other words, he is a nice complimentary piece. But he hits less than 40% of his free throws, a weakness that will be exploited by good teams. So until Lee develops scoring skills and learns to hit 60% of his free throws, he isn't a starter on a contending team. This doesn't mean he isn't a promising player. He still has a high upside, if he can learn to create some offense. But you will be surprised how Lee's limitations will stand out when KAT, WCS, and Lyles aren't on the floor.
Who said UK was a contender in the first place?
 
We need bodies and he's the best player available. I don't see how this is an argument. I don't trust Juco's and I'd rather not have to rely on Matthews or Willis to be a starter.
 
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Lee will be fine. Just remember what he did his freshman year in the tourney. The reason he hasn't done well is because he doesn't get any clock. You will see a different lee next year.
This is being way optimistic.
 
Lee will be fine. Just remember what he did his freshman year in the tourney. The reason he hasn't done well is because he doesn't get any clock. You will see a different lee next year.

Lee is not going to score tons of points even with the extended minutes. He's just not a big time scorer. He'll average 6-7ppg max next season. He'll play 20+ minutes, play excellent defense, rebound the ball, and make some nice plays around the rim (mostly dunks), but that is all we should expect from him. If he scores more than 7 a game, I will be shocked and very pleased.
 
We need bodies and he's the best player available. I don't see how this is an argument. I don't trust Juco's and I'd rather not have to rely on Matthews or Willis to be a starter.

There's always Hawkins. He has experience. He has started. He can defend. He won't turn the ball over. If he can knock down the open jumper, he might be the guy if the rest falter.

With four guys that can score (Labissiere, Briscoe, Poythress, and Ulis) he might not be a bad fifth starter. It would make us small, but we would be quick and be able to put a lot of pressure on the ball.

I have a feeling Cal is going to experiment with a lot lineups with this team, so who knows how it turns out.
 
There's always Hawkins. He has experience. He has started. He can defend. He won't turn the ball over. If he can knock down the open jumper, he might be the guy if the rest falter.

With four guys that can score (Labissiere, Briscoe, Poythress, and Ulis) he might not be a bad fifth starter. It would make us small, but we would be quick and be able to put a lot of pressure on the ball.

I have a feeling Cal is going to experiment with a lot lineups with this team, so who knows how it turns out.
Except, Poy can't score. He does not have basketball kills, plain and simple. He is an explosive high level athlete, terrific defender and rebounder, but no offensive skills, period.
 
Except, Poy can't score. He does not have basketball kills, plain and simple. He is an explosive high level athlete, terrific defender and rebounder, but no offensive skills, period.

I disagree. Poythress has the potential to be a scorer. He needs to be more aggressive.

If we go back to his Freshman year, he averaged double digits. Part of that was because he played most of his minutes at the 4 spot that year.

Moving back to mainly playing PF should help him get back into the swing of things scoring-wise.
 
I disagree. Poythress has the potential to be a scorer. He needs to be more aggressive.

If we go back to his Freshman year, he averaged double digits. Part of that was because he played most of his minutes at the 4 spot that year.

Moving back to mainly playing PF should help him get back into the swing of things scoring-wise.
I hope you are right.
 
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