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Murray will be a higher draft pick then Buddy Heild because..

Not necessarily. Someone could make a trade so that they have back-to-back picks, pick Hield then Murray, and then say "we wanted them both exactly equally so we took Hield first because we just went alphabetically so as not to show favoritism."

So TECHNICALLY, one has to go first but it is possible for them to have the exact same value to the point that realistically they are viewed as equals.
What? You mean they use pick 7 and pick 8 but pick 7 didn't happen first? Is that what you're saying?
 
Im not saying he won't be drafted higher, I'm saying buddy is overall a better player than murray. Hield takes AND makes these shots that murray cannot hit. If you've watched hield at all, he takes shots that would be ill advised for jamal, but held makes them. You're trying to put murray's stats during his recent hot streak against the numbers that hield has hit over 5 times as many games-----and hield is still shooting better. We are arguing over two very good players---just which one is king so far----imo, its easily hield
Im not saying he won't be drafted higher, I'm saying buddy is overall a better player than murray. Hield takes AND makes these shots that murray cannot hit. If you've watched hield at all, he takes shots that would be ill advised for jamal, but held makes them. You're trying to put murray's stats during his recent hot streak against the numbers that hield has hit over 5 times as many games-----and hield is still shooting better. We are arguing over two very good players---just which one is king so far----imo, its easily hield
I am saying he has unlimited range posterizes people is considered one of the most crafty scorers in the country team Canada a team of pros and college vets put the pan am games on Murrays shoulders to watch him score 23 points in the 4th quarter and overtime alone to beat team usa. There is not one shot that buddy can hit that Murray can't and Murray because of his leaping ability ball handling and hang time can score in more ways than Buddy. Or maybe u didn't see him him posterizes South Carolina's intimidating bad boy thug Carrera Murray has a longer history of shooting at the clip he is now and in international play. So no it's not a hot streak it's simply a freshman becoming comfortable and returning to form. Buddy shoots slightly better than Murray and plays slightly better defense and Murray has improved greatly in that area. Kinda like Towns last year if you had judged him the first half of the season he wouldn't have been considered near the player he was at the end of the season. Now nobody questions who the better player between him an Okafor. Hell kansas had to go to gimick defense to keep Murray from scoring at will on them. I have seen buddy play and he can slash and score but Murray scores in every way possible so the person who must not have seen a player is u and Murray cause if u think there is one shot that Murray doesn't have the green light on u havent watched at all. He scores in everyway possible including oops, dunks on put back and in transition
 
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Probably because he's already hitting 50% of his 3s. Were he to get "a lot better" we'd discover that he's an alien or a lab experiment.
Doron Lamb hit about 50% of his 3's as a sophomore.

How's HE doing i the pros?

Heild is obviously better than Lamb, but your example wasn't great IMO.

My point is that Heild is still primarily a jump shooter and I personally don't think that he has the upside that Murray has.

I don't think he'll be a better pro than Murray.
 
Doron Lamb hit about 50% of his 3's as a sophomore.

How's HE doing i the pros?

Heild is obviously better than Lamb, but your example wasn't great IMO.

My point is that Heild is still primarily a jump shooter and I personally don't think that he has the upside that Murray has.

I don't think he'll be a better pro than Murray.

My point was about the possibility of him getting much better. He's already flirting with the limits of athletic achievement. Heild may be having a season long statistical freak show that doesn't reflect his core capacity. I don't know. I just think predicting athletic progress when you're not paid to do it is a silly exercise.
 
My point was about the possibility of him getting much better. He's already flirting with the limits of athletic achievement. Heild may be having a season long statistical freak show that doesn't reflect his core capacity. I don't know. I just think predicting athletic progress when you're not paid to do it is a silly exercise.
Wow!!

This is a freaking MESSAGE BOARD!!

That's what we do!!!

How much are you getting paid to tell me I'm stupid?

Look, Heild is awesome and I'm sorry if you're offended.

At the end of the day it doesn't even matter because both of these kids will be rich in a few months.

Murray is a Freshman who should be a senior in HS and Heild is a senior in college.

As an UNTRAINED, UNPAID, AMATEUR, I think that Murray has more long term upside.
 
Wow!!

This is a freaking MESSAGE BOARD!!

That's what we do!!!

How much are you getting paid to tell me I'm stupid?

Look, Heild is awesome and I'm sorry if you're offended.

At the end of the day it doesn't even matter because both of these kids will be rich in a few months.

Murray is a Freshman who should be a senior in HS and Heild is a senior in college.

As an UNTRAINED, UNPAID, AMATEUR, I think that Murray has more long term upside.

I responded with the post you're responding to because your first response misinterpreted what I'd said originally. I know it's a "freaking message board". I was giving my opinion.
 
Wow!!

This is a freaking MESSAGE BOARD!!

That's what we do!!!

How much are you getting paid to tell me I'm stupid?

Look, Heild is awesome and I'm sorry if you're offended.

At the end of the day it doesn't even matter because both of these kids will be rich in a few months.

Murray is a Freshman who should be a senior in HS and Heild is a senior in college.

As an UNTRAINED, UNPAID, AMATEUR, I think that Murray has more long term upside.
Murray should def not be a high school senior. We have a college sophomore younger than he is. Why would some people always try to use that BS.
 
I responded with the post you're responding to because your first response misinterpreted what I'd said originally. I know it's a "freaking message board". I was giving my opinion.[/QUOT
Murray should def not be a high school senior. We have a college sophomore younger than he is. Why would some people always try to use that BS.
He did indeed reclassify from 2016 to 2015.
 
I responded with the post you're responding to because your first response misinterpreted what I'd said originally. I know it's a "freaking message board". I was giving my opinion.
You said that it's "silly" to predict the future of a player because I'm not "paid" to do it.

That's why I said that it's a freakin message board.

Look, I respect your opinion.

Why are you so invested in what UK fans think of Buddy Heild's upside?
 
Not sure about how many 19 yr old high school seniors you had in your high school.....
I never spoke of his age...

Am I wrong that he reclassified from 2016 to 2015?

I was referring to his experience at this level of competition.

Okay, Buddy Heild is the most amazing player on the planet and Jamal Murray will NEVER be half the player he is!!

Now, are you and Moe happy?

Good!!
 
I never spoke of his age...

Am I wrong that he reclassified from 2016 to 2015?

I was referring to his experience at this level of competition.

Okay, Buddy Heild is the most amazing player on the planet and Jamal Murray will NEVER be half the player he is!!

Now, are you and Moe happy?

Good!!
I've all ready stated they are both terrific players----but Hield is easily on another level. Murrays age determines what class he should be in unless he was held back---going to a 5th year of high school, or parents just started him late to give him an edge over his classmates by being a yr older.
 
I've all ready stated they are both terrific players----but Hield is easily on another level. Murrays age determines what class he should be in unless he was held back---going to a 5th year of high school, or parents just started him late to give him an edge over his classmates by being a yr older.
I don't think that even one person on this board would argue that Murray is better than Heild right now.

The NBA drafts on potential and upside.

They put their money where their mouth is...

We'll get our answer in a few months as to who the NBA believes has more upside.

Either way, they will both be rich very soon!
 
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