Nashville News: https://www.wsmv.com/2024/02/20/report-nashville-among-front-runners-mlb-expansion-is-inevitable/
I'd love to be able to go watch the Reds
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Then I suppose your definition of the south excludes TX.I mean the south, outside of Florida, only has one team
Yes sweetheart...thats the southwest. ThanksThen I suppose your definition of the south excludes TX.
Kentucky is so backwards when it comes to expansion of anything that would make sense. New businesses are going in across the river instead of lining up on 65 in KY. In Louisville, 3 households put a hold on TopGolf for years.No Kentucky. Don't care.
Kentucky is so backwards when it comes to expansion of anything that would make sense. New businesses are going in across the river instead of lining up on 65 in KY. In Louisville, 3 households put a hold on TopGolf for years.
I don't see a team relocating to Nashville, Charlotte or Portland being anymore success than the Trail Blazers, Panthers or Titans have been. Could be wrong though. Tennessee is usually decent more often than not, they have had their good seasons but none of them are contenders right now. Would never expect an MLB team to get the same level of interest as an NFL team though. Fans will show up for NFL games but drumming up enough interest for 81 MLB home games is obviously harder.I don't know how any of these new teams are supposed to build a passionate fan base without decades of tradition teams have built in cities with fan bases nationwide and not expect to face the attendance issues the Athletics, Marlins & Rays are having as well as the Expos 20 years ago. I used to live in Tennessee, 45 miles west of Nashville and if they ever got an MLB team, would not all of a sudden start supporting them and stop being a Reds fan. The south is Braves country and always will be.
You can build a brand-new ballpark, Kansas City is planning a new park but still ranked 3rd lowest in attendance. The Marlins built that new ballpark in 2012, rebranded as the Miami Marlins and even won 2 World Series but still ranked for the 2nd lowest in attendance. If a city as huge as Miami can't draw in any better than that, no guaranteed a team will succeed in Nashville or Las Vegas either.
The Cardinals used to be the team for much of the south and west when there were only 16 teams. They formed a very large branch of radio stations carrying their games. It is still very much a regional team.I mean the south, outside of Florida, only has one team
I will be a Braves fan as long as I live even if Nashville has a team. Totally agree.I don't know how any of these new teams are supposed to build a passionate fan base without decades of tradition teams have built in cities with fan bases nationwide and not expect to face the attendance issues the Athletics, Marlins & Rays are having as well as the Expos 20 years ago. I used to live in Tennessee, 45 miles west of Nashville and if they ever got an MLB team, would not all of a sudden start supporting them and stop being a Reds fan. The south is Braves country and always will be.
You can build a brand-new ballpark, Kansas City is planning a new park but still ranked 3rd lowest in attendance. The Marlins built that new ballpark in 2012, rebranded as the Miami Marlins and even won 2 World Series but still ranked for the 2nd lowest in attendance. If a city as huge as Miami can't draw in any better than that, no guaranteed a team will succeed in Nashville or Las Vegas either.
Lol, Texas is Texas it’s def not the traditional “South”. Even Texas people will tell you exactly that.Then I suppose your definition of the south excludes TX.
Using that logic they should’ve never expanded any teams in any sports though right?I live in Nashville, and I just don't see how this city will support a team. Everyone who lives here either likes the Braves, Reds or Cardinals. I don't see them giving up those allegiances.
And there is not an ideal place to put a stadium.
Those allegiances can be broken very quickly. Those fandoms are usually out of convenience. Unless you are from those cities, they will move to the home team. Games on tv now. A playoff push. Merchandise. Your kids become fans.I live in Nashville, and I just don't see how this city will support a team. Everyone who lives here either likes the Braves, Reds or Cardinals. I don't see them giving up those allegiances.
And there is not an ideal place to put a stadium.
This is correct. Most people never move to a new market, so they’re always around their favorite team.Those allegiances can be broken very quickly. Those fandoms are usually out of convenience. Unless you are from those cities, they will move to the home team. Games on tv now. A playoff push. Merchandise. Your kids become fans.
Will they though? 4 postseason teams ranked in the bottom 10 in attendance with 3 of them being expansion teams, Arizona, Miami & Tampa Bay. Miami built the new park to make it more convenient for people to get to the games and still struggle getting people to go to their games despite going to the postseason and one of baseball's most successful expansion teams winning 2 World Series championships.I can see it happening for Nashville. And as stated, as the younger population grows, they will support their local team.
I’m sure you know the business better than the analysts the billionaires have hired, probably should’ve hired you I reckon.MLB has no business expanding into a new market.
Very cool story! My grandfather was manager of one of those very radio stations in western ky that has been a stl affiliate since well I don't exactly know when lol. He was manager for 35 yrs. That's how I grew up early on in life, listening to cardinal games on his little radio. But he would put it on kmox am radio and have to tune it in and out. He would only switch back to his station when a station break would take place so he could make sure whoever was working the night game shift wasn't sleeping on the job.The Cardinals used to be the team for much of the south and west when there were only 16 teams. They formed a very large branch of radio stations carrying their games. It is still very much a regional team.
Branch Rickey was a very sharp man and started a minor league farm system before anyone else, which helped the Cardinals dominate from the Gas House Gang era through the early Musial days. They used to say, "break up the Yankees", but they actually did break up the Cardinals. The commissioner said the Cardinals had an unfair advantage with their farm system and made them release numerous players to help other teams start their farm system. One was a guy named Pete Resier who Rickey had hired as his personal driver as soon as he was old enough to drive to insure he could sign him when he became of age. Pete went to the Dodgers and appeared on track to be an all time great till he ran into to many concrete walls chasing down fly balls.
False, Rays aren’t going anywhere. New stadium will be complete for the 2028 season.I don't see San Antonio as being a market MLB is looking to expand to. With the Rangers & Astros both making the ALCS and Texas winning it all. Houston 3rd highest payroll, Texas 8th so they have the budget to stay relevant. Can't see a new team in that state getting the support with Houston & Texas having the best years in the history of their franchises.
2024 MLB Team Salary Cap Tracker
A real-time look at the 2024 salary cap totals for each MLB team, including estimated cap space.www.spotrac.com
I lived in San Antonio back in 2014 when the Astros & Rangers held a Spring Training game that was played in the Alamodome. I doubt an MLB team is going to make the Alamodome a permanent home especially with the UFL having games there at the same time as the MLB season if that league lasts. San Antonio has the Missions, AA affiliate of the Padres. Their stadium is built right outside of Lackland AFB with neighborhoods all around it. Obviously way too small with a capacity barely above 9,000. A good read on why they aren't an ideal location to expand to for MLB. Appears they already made a push once before to get the Marlins that did not pan out.
To those stuck on Nashville's growing population and a lack of teams in the region as a reason to expand to. Those are certainly factors but it does not necessarily mean the team will get the support that you hope it will. Florida had no baseball teams before the 90s, expanded to the Miami market one of the biggest cities in the nation with the Latino population that loves baseball. MLB expanding to Arizona to give the southwest a team outside of Texas. Miami ranks damn near dead last every year in attendance and the Diamondbacks reaching the World Series were 20th. Arizona's owner even mentioned how relocation is not out of picture for them with their stadium lease expiring soon.
Diamondbacks don't rule out moving without public funding for renovations: 'We may run out of time in Phoenix'
The Diamondbacks owner insisted this wasn't a threatwww.cbssports.com
The Rays have stadium issues and the commute to the games are known to be harder for fans to get to. Proposals for a new stadium never go anywhere. If they can't do any better than that, Tampa Bay doesn't deserve the Rays when TB consistently makes the postseason. Maybe relocation rather than expansion is an idea on the table for a city like Nashville in this case with the other markets struggling though there is not a lot of evidence that points to these expansion teams getting a consistent amount of support based on issues the teams that joined in the 90s continue to deal with.
St. Petersburg’s proposed Rays stadium deal is a strikeout for the city | Column
The city is risking way too much money. There is a better way forward.www.tampabay.com
She walked that back, but yeah, she said something along those lines in some podcast or something. Seems like that is not necessarily a done deal?I thought the mayor of Vegas said to not bring the A’s there?
Oh I'm not sure. I don't stay up on current events that well.I thought the mayor of Vegas said to not bring the A’s there?