Missouri DB on Missouri/Kentucky rivalry
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He can kiss my Big Blue Arse!
Thanks for the heads-up, Martel!
I won’t be the only one in Blue looking for No. 3 in Mustard and Black, next year!
Do you know how Mizzou ended up in Mustard Yellow and Tennessee in prisoner Orange?
It’s because Tennessee had First Choice!!
You can’t blame Martel for hating Kentucky more than Arkansas: they actually have a shot of beating Arkansas!
Thanks for the heads-up, Martel!
I won’t be the only one in Blue looking for No. 3 in Mustard and Black, next year!
Do you know how Mizzou ended up in Mustard Yellow and Tennessee in prisoner Orange?
It’s because Tennessee had First Choice!!
You can’t blame Martel for hating Kentucky more than Arkansas: they actually have a shot of beating Arkansas!
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I like the fact that it keeps him up at night!
At least he is punching up. Not a whole lot of room to punch down.
Hate is a measure of success. The more successful you are at sports (or most anything) the more people hate you. I mean when we were winning 6 games a year and struggling to get to the who-cares bowl nobody hates us.
Also I disagree that Mizzou and UK are a rivalry. It's an exciting game and an important one as long as the East is in play but it isn't a rivalry. Our rivals are UT and UofL.
Also I disagree that Mizzou and UK are a rivalry. It's an exciting game and an important one as long as the East is in play but it isn't a rivalry. Our rivals are UT and UofL.
I think South Carolina even hated us, then.
We beat them in ‘14 and ‘15, and won only 5 each season.
I just realized: in those two seasons we were 1-1 versus Vandy, and 2-0 versus USCe.
He hates UK because he feels like they should not be losing to UK...and 6 of last 7 years....it's been an L for Mizzou
It's not even a rivalry lol. Maybe beat us once in a while and we can call it one.
I don't look forward to Mizzou as a rivalry, mostly because I see them as barely SEC. I do look forward to that game, though because it is always chippy, and I love a good chippy football game. There is plenty of bad blood going back and forth there. They probably feel like we stole one from them in 2018 because we kind of did with that shaky PI and an untimed down. Plus the halftime shenanigans because of the construction. Was it 2017 with the walk off field goal? 2019 with Bowden ball in a hurricane, that had to hurt. 2020 had some extra curriculars with Bossman Fat on their sideline.
Yeah, there's a lot of bad blood from them.
Yeah, there's a lot of bad blood from them.
Ya gotta look at it from his perspective.
For him, he's a senior who has played UK three times. Given the last three years, no surprise (to me) that he views UK as his rival. He's experienced three competitive games, and has a 1-2 record but (while biased) probably feels he could be 2-1 or 3-0 which probably grinds his gears.
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2019 - UK scores 22 points in the second quarter, but the box score suggests the game was closer than the scoreboard. Mizzou couldn't do anything once it got in scoring position and UK finished drives. Nonetheless competitive. Mizzou was 5-3 heading into this match.
2020 - Mizzou beats UK's booty in Columbia, and there was lots of trash talk. UK only lost by 10 points, but for the second year in a row the game didn't feel as close as the scoreboard says it was.
2021 - UK wins by a touchdown in Lexington. Both offenses almost went for over 400 yards each. UK's was just better that day between Wandale's 100 yards receiving and CRod's 200 yards rushing to overcome UK's defensive problems and two turnovers. This game is an underrated rewatch in my opinion.
For him, he's a senior who has played UK three times. Given the last three years, no surprise (to me) that he views UK as his rival. He's experienced three competitive games, and has a 1-2 record but (while biased) probably feels he could be 2-1 or 3-0 which probably grinds his gears.
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2019 - UK scores 22 points in the second quarter, but the box score suggests the game was closer than the scoreboard. Mizzou couldn't do anything once it got in scoring position and UK finished drives. Nonetheless competitive. Mizzou was 5-3 heading into this match.
2020 - Mizzou beats UK's booty in Columbia, and there was lots of trash talk. UK only lost by 10 points, but for the second year in a row the game didn't feel as close as the scoreboard says it was.
2021 - UK wins by a touchdown in Lexington. Both offenses almost went for over 400 yards each. UK's was just better that day between Wandale's 100 yards receiving and CRod's 200 yards rushing to overcome UK's defensive problems and two turnovers. This game is an underrated rewatch in my opinion.
Lol
I love the Missouri game. There’s a lot riding on it. You cannot afford to lose to Missouri.
Good point. Missouri's rival was Kansas for many, many years but when they came to the SEC that ended that. Maybe it could develop into a rivalry because our inability to beat Tennessee, even when our best teams play their worst, has taken that rivalry away. UT fans laugh at us when we say they are our rival. I know, I have family that are UT fans.
Missouri makes sense. It is a border state like Kentucky and in the Northern most part of the SEC. The Deep Southern states have nothing in common with Kentucky, not even South Carolina. Tennessee is looking to beat Florida, Georgia and Alabama. They always have Kentucky a W no matter what our team is ranked.
So I would welcome Missouri as a rival.
Lmao what are you talking about? Kentucky is a southern state. Tennessee, Kentucky, Virginia are the upper south.
Florida, LA, Bama, MS, Texas, SC, NC, deep south.
Since when is Kentucky a Southern state? Parts of it may be but it is Midwest except along the Tennessee border, West of I75 and Western Kentucky. Northern Kentucky, Louisville and Lexington are not Southern and Eastern Kentucky is Appalachian. It is a long way from Pikeville to Paducah and a world of difference in culture.
Kentucky has much more in common with Missouri than Tennessee or Virginia. Missouri and Kentucky would make a good rivalry.
According to the US census. Kentucky was the middle star on the confederate battle flag. Kentucky was a charter member of the southern and southeastern conferences. Kentucky was founded by Virginians. We border TN and VA. Which have bigger influences on us than the Ohio and IN borders. Also, there's this map made before the civil war.
Lloyd's map of the southern states : showing all the railroads, their stations & distances, also the counties, towns, villages, harbors, rivers, and forts.
Relief shown by hachures. LC Civil War maps (2nd ed.), 14.3 Another issue. Available also through the Library of Congress Web site as a raster image. Text printed below map: Sketch of the whole southern coast. Text printed on verso: Lloyd's military map and gazetteer of the southern states,1861.
www.loc.gov
Not to mention the far western part of Kentucky was heavy confederate during the civil war. Escpially graves county which tried to align itself with Memphis, TN. Here's something else: Kentucky sent more troops to the CSA than florida.
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Kentucky IS a southern state, Besides, the SEC college sports conference and Southern Living Magazine recognizes Kentucky as southern. I’d say that’s confirmation enough. So with geography, history, and culture firmly planted in the south, there’s just no use in trying to dissociate Kentucky from its Southernness. Every southern state boasts its own unique personality. Louisiana showcases its French and Creole heritage. The low country of South Carolina intertwines hospitality into its fabric. Cattle ranching culture plays a significant role in Texas’ notable style. We’ve got mountain states, cotton states, and sugar cane state(s) all of which provide a distinction from rest of the southern states. Like members of a family, each individual has a unique identity, but their kinship binds them all together. Kentuckians hold a kinship to other southerners that they don’t have with any other region of the US. Maybe it’s the accent. Perhaps it’s the menus we are nourished by or the behaviors we instill in our offspring regardless of where we raise them. I believe our way of living, colloquialisms, and fundamental reputation make Kentucky, without a doubt, southern through and through. Upper south or mid-south, yes, but entirely south nevertheless. And if you refuse to believe that well, bless your sweet little heart, you can just kiss my Kentucky bluegrass!
Absolutely. People like to point we never seceded. But we did not want to be on the frontlines of the war like Virginia. And with that logic, TN is not southern either. The eastern part of that state was HEAVY union. VA seceded by one vote. Are they not southern either?
My hometown of Princeton has a Confederate soldier statue on the courthouse lawn as do most of the western Kentucky towns. The southward-facing statue has been said to be "defiant", with its back to the North, its defiant gaze, and its proud mustache. Kentucky has been southern since 1792. As the first southern state admitted after the independence of America, Kentucky has been southern long before the Louisiana Purchase welcomed eight out of 13 southern states. In addition to its longevity, both the president of the Confederate States and the United States during the civil war came from Kentucky…born 100 miles or so apart. A state’s relationship with the south during the time of the Civil War is really the determining factor of its legitimacy within the region. Kentucky straddled the fence during the War Between The States— wanting to remain one nation but maintain the institution of slavery too. After emancipation, Kentucky took on a more fervently southern identity. It clings to the “Just Cause” propaganda that is still taught in Kentucky Schools. Kentucky erected so many confederate statues it would be a wonder if any Kentuckian has ever seen a Union monument. It’s not uncommon for Kentucky folks to be able to look in their backyards and around their neighborhoods and be in a Civil War battleground or confederate grave yard. Now, what Northerner or Midwesterner can say the same?
Then both programs need to elevate - one or the other improving will not produce a rivalry. We think that way about UT but in truth we do not win enough games!
I think the L & N Railroad did more than any other entity to keep Ky. out of the civil war - they were hauling freight for both sides. The RR also altered to keep Lou. in the east time zone due to RR sechelduling.
We've beat em 6 out of 7, I'd hate us too
I am not sure the rivalry has spilled over to the fanbases as much, but I think within actual players, across several teams, there is a rivalry brewing. I know there is one in baseball where the two teams just outright do not like each other. So, with a somewhat competitive football series, it wouldn't surprise me that this is also the case.
Kentucky vs Mizzou is a rivalry??? Sure is news to me......
Historically, Missouri and Kentucky have a common bond dating back to migration of settlers (most famously Daniel Boone). BUT, I was stationed in 10 states while in the military including eastern time zone tours in VAx5. OH, TN, GAx2, FL, SC, MDx2, and PAx2, and I never heard anyone refer to Kentucky as Midwest. Center of the universe for horse racing, bourbon, bluegrass music, and fried chicken….plus tobacco as our biggest historical cash crop and Steven Foster’s My Old Kentucky Home as the state song makes the the commonwealth squarely southern by most accounts. In my experience, I believe we have much more in common with our border rivals in Tennessee and especially Virginia (considering we were Kentucky County, VA prior to statehood).
GBB!
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Lets not forget, Kentucky was founded primarily by people from North Carolina and Virginia. Two southern states.
Missouri: we hate Kentucky!!!
Kentucky: lulz we don't even think about you.
Kentucky: lulz we don't even think about you.
