Massacre on Bourbon St, 10 dead 30 injured

[WayneDougan]

And that right there is exactly why that was reported so loudly by certain news sources. To make you think the culprit was an illegal immigrant before any evidence came out. It was done purely to get people angrier.

And this is what the President Elect said just hours after the attack before any real facts were known. He is 100% priming you to blame illegal immigrants. If he's wrong, oh well you're still even more angry about illegal immigrants than you were before. If he's right, he gloats about it and says I told you so for weeks. It's irresponsible as hell and its only purpose is to get his supporters foaming at the mouth.

One crime from an illegal immigrant is one too many. No issues with what Trump said at all.

 

[Ron Mehico]

Admitting that illegal immigration has severe consequences. Deport all illegal immigrants and all criminal aliens. Admit that we have terrorist cells here and quit pretending the problem is moms at pta meetings. Just live in reality. You can ban every gun in the country and we are still going to have this problem.

20 years of war in the ME left a lot of people rightfully pissed at the US. Maybe we shouldn't let people who hate us into the country?

Nobody said anything about banning guns. And to your other points - ok sounds great, let’s do it! I still don’t understand what you’re trying to accomplish or who you’re arguing against posting these on the paddock. Is there someone you’ve seen posting about how criminal aliens are good? Is there even a single Muslim that posts on this site? Who are you arguing against?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Could say the same about the rape, sexual abuse, and coverup by the Catholic Church, the Vatican, numerous popes, and thousands upon thousands of priests around the world too.

Say it. As if it is not said regularly, even by Catholics. What is your point?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Pretty much everyone held their heads in the sand about sexual abuse within the Church and most looked the other way.

Point is, I've never seen anyone on the Paddock suggest outlawing Catholicism or wanting Catholics kicked out of America even though the Catholic Church itself has a backwards, vile, twisted, violent history. The Catholic Church was essentially a worldwide grooming syndicate of abuse and child rape hidden for decades as the most powerful decision makers around the globe within that religion knowingly played a game of pedo chess by switching criminal priests around from location to location.

This isn't going to begin a weekend of back and forth. I'm just saying some want to play the game of targeting Muslims because of extremism within their religion. We don't see those same people apply this view to Catholics who still worship despite their religion supporting vile things.

Are you advocating for keeping Catholic priests from illegally entering the country? If so, we have finally found our common ground!

 

[hmt5000]

Pretty much everyone held their heads in the sand about sexual abuse within the Church and most looked the other way.

Point is, I've never seen anyone on the Paddock suggest outlawing Catholicism or wanting Catholics kicked out of America even though the Catholic Church itself has a backwards, vile, twisted, violent history. The Catholic Church was essentially a worldwide grooming syndicate of abuse and child rape hidden for decades as the most powerful decision makers around the globe within that religion knowingly played a game of pedo chess by switching criminal priests around from location to location.

This isn't going to begin a weekend of back and forth. I'm just saying some want to play the game of targeting Muslims because of extremism within their religion. We don't see those same people apply this view to Catholics who still worship despite their religion supporting vile things.

It's because Catholics aren't trying to normalize sex with girls as young as 9. Show me one video of someone defending that.... I can show you videos and polls all day that shows tons of muslims are OK with 60 yo men having sex with 9 yo girls. Just to show how nuts they are... Did you know they have a method of "stretching" the child out so that she doesn't die during sex?.... That seems kind of like something everyone should just be a hard no on.

 

[hmt5000]

Nobody said anything about banning guns. And to your other points - ok sounds great, let’s do it! I still don’t understand what you’re trying to accomplish or who you’re arguing against posting these on the paddock. Is there someone you’ve seen posting about how criminal aliens are good? Is there even a single Muslim that posts on this site? Who are you arguing against?

LOL. Yea. Congress declined to pass a bill that would remove criminal aliens. The new Laken Riley act that is seeking to remove criminal aliens is looking to pass on a very thin vote. Cali is burning to the ground and when their legislature met to decide funding the rebuilding it devolved into Trump bashing within 5 minutes and they couldn't do anything because they had to protect illegals.





It is what is man. If people want to treat illegals as special little unicorns that need protection from the law then we as a country are toast. We are going to get more and more terror because we've let over 1000 people on terrorist watchlist into our country. That doesn't include the south American gangs also coming into our country with zero regard for law or life. Something like the Laken Riley act should get 95% yes votes. But it's not.

 

[hmt5000]

It's not just normal criminals stealing NG humvees set up for machine guns. This is organized and obviously they have a plot for them.

 

[hmt5000]

I don’t know who these two men are, but I’m 100% certain they’re spewing propaganda to push us further into war. This is their sales pitch, and I’m not buying.

ONE THOUSAND terrorist cells? Lol.

You are right they are pushing us into war. The funny thing is you think they would lie us into a war, but they wouldn't let terrorist into the country to give them justification to go to war...? Really? I think you underestimate how callous politicians and bureaucrats are.

 

[Joerules19]

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It's not just normal criminals stealing NG humvees set up for machine guns. This is organized and obviously they have a plot for them.

I guarantee 90% of those that are stealing those machine guns are currently on SSRI's. Care to take that bet hmt?

 

[hmt5000]

Bomb making material and uniforms in a Chicago apt building. Probably nothing.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

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Bomb making material and uniforms in a Chicago apt building. Probably nothing.

Good job by that woman. Without knowing the rest of the story, she made the right call to let authorities know.

 

[KAB Cats]

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It's not just normal criminals stealing NG humvees set up for machine guns. This is organized and obviously they have a plot for them.

ehhhh, I don't know. I think they just stole some hummers. It's not like I can't buy an all-terrain SUV at a car dealership.

 

[Ron Mehico]

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Bomb making material and uniforms in a Chicago apt building. Probably nothing.

Not sure why you think it’s nothing, it made for a TV news story so I think people seem to be in alignment that it’s a big deal?

 

[Hank Camacho]

Man that Green Beret story got memory holed especially quick. The only thing about that I am certain of is that there are no Chinese anti-gravity drones. Other than that, I mean what in the world was up with that?

 

[PTI (pti)]

That guy claimed to be responsible for killing hundreds of innocent children and civilians in his duties with the United States Army. Easy to see how those in power would want to bury that story.

 

[Hank Camacho]

That guy claimed to be responsible for killing hundreds of innocent children and civilians in his duties with the United States Army. Easy to see how those in power would want to bury that story.

In the same email that he also claimed Chinese anti-gravity drones regularly invade American airspace and otherwise seemed almost intentionally incorrect about things.

So yeah, I got questions. I doubt there will ever be a satisfactory explanation of that one but good lord what a doozy.

 

[hmt5000]

You will either think Ryan is a loon or good podcaster with connections to SEAL's, CIA, SF and Delta personnel... But this sounds a lot like what has been set up through our wide open border the last 4 years. 12 million to 15 million illegals. Tons of people on terrorist watch list, tons of people with ties to foreign gangs.... The NO truck killer was lone dude that had loose affiliation to ISIS. There are people out there who trained for years to kill Americans. Hell, a couple of the people caught setting fires in Cali were tied to gangs in Mexico and Guatemala.

 

[WillGolf4Food]

Hell, a couple of the people caught setting fires in Cali were tied to gangs in Mexico and Guatemala.

You have a link for that?

 

[hmt5000]

You have a link for that?

Not really.... Have to go by hearsay because Cali won't let an illegal be to blame for anything. This guy was caught on camera and has been linked to a Mexican gang.



The other that was linked to a Guatemalan gang we have no video of so its just rumors. And the dude in the video isn't going to be charged with arson because he just had a propane torch and a lighter during a wildfire....

 

[JumperJack]

You have a link for that?

From the same media that claimed the border was secure?

What are you even thinking about with that?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Not really.... Have to go by hearsay because Cali won't let an illegal be to blame for anything. This guy was caught on camera and has been linked to a Mexican gang.

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The other that was linked to a Guatemalan gang we have no video of so its just rumors. And the dude in the video isn't going to be charged with arson because he just had a propane torch and a lighter during a wildfire....

I thought wind caused those fires. 🤦‍♂️

 

[Hank Camacho]

I believe absolutely nothing from the Shawn Ryan Show. He will put seemingly anyone on there. For instance, here's his hard-hitting interview with a former marine who uncovered a UFO human trafficking operation in Indonesia. Seems legit.

 

[PTI (pti)]

Not really.... Have to go by hearsay because Cali won't let an illegal be to blame for anything. This guy was caught on camera and has been linked to a Mexican gang.

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The other that was linked to a Guatemalan gang we have no video of so its just rumors. And the dude in the video isn't going to be charged with arson because he just had a propane torch and a lighter during a wildfire....

This is why the internet should probably be banned.


Man caught carrying a blow torch.

Ummmm….and what? It’s a pretty big leap from “carrying a blow torch” to “setting the biggest wildfire in US history.”

 

[hmt5000]

I believe absolutely nothing from the Shawn Ryan Show. He will put seemingly anyone on there. For instance, here's his hard-hitting interview with a former marine who uncovered a UFO human trafficking operation in Indonesia. Seems legit.

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Nothing? He put a Delta Force guy on there who talked about the war in Afghanistan and how we are still paying the Taliban $80M per week.... You think that was lie? You think we should be paying the Taliban money?

 

[hmt5000]

This is why the internet should probably be banned.


Man caught carrying a blow torch.

Ummmm….and what? It’s a pretty big leap from “carrying a blow torch” to “setting the biggest wildfire in US history.”

Agreed. I often carry a lighter and blowtorch during largest wildfire in history. If I leave home without my blowtorch during wildfires I will stop by Lowes and buy one. People like you are the problem. You will demand overwhelming proof for illegal crime but probably buy any other crime you are sold.

 

[Joerules19]

You have a link for that?

Of course he doesn't. Guy is a clown who believes anything posted on the Internet. Uses the words rumor and heresay and thinks it had to have happened. Posted last week that 80% of all mass shooters are on ssri medications. When asked for sources he gave two; the first one he didn't read because it didn't prove anything he claimed and the 2nd one was funded by Church of Scientology. It is absolutely frightening to me that people will continually believe everything they see online

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Agreed. I often carry a lighter and blowtorch during largest wildfire in history. If I leave home without my blowtorch during wildfires I will stop by Lowes and buy one. People like you are the problem. You will demand overwhelming proof for illegal crime but probably buy any other crime you are sold.

“Woman shot in head. Man noticed in area with handgun not questioned as probable suspect.”

 

[Bill Cosby]

I believe absolutely nothing from the Shawn Ryan Show. He will put seemingly anyone on there. For instance, here's his hard-hitting interview with a former marine who uncovered a UFO human trafficking operation in Indonesia. Seems legit.

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With his intro music, how could anything on there not be legit?

 

[hmt5000]

Of course he doesn't. Guy is a clown who believes anything posted on the Internet. Uses the words rumor and heresay and thinks it had to have happened. Posted last week that 80% of all mass shooters are on ssri medications. When asked for sources he gave two; the first one he didn't read because it didn't prove anything he claimed and the 2nd one was funded by Church of Scientology. It is absolutely frightening to me that people will continually believe everything they see online

ICE confirms guy is an illegal from Mexico.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-sa...ice-to-reporter/ar-BB1rn7d4?ocid=BingNewsSerp

"Per ICE sources, the man seen in a viral video being subdued by residents & arrested by police w/ a blowtorch near the #KennethFire in West Hills is an illegal alien from Mexico named Juan Manuel Sierra-Leyva," Melugin wrote Sunday on X.

"He is in custody on a probation violation & has NOT been charged w/ arson. I'm told ICE will place a detainer request on him with the L.A. County Sheriff's Department, but they do not expect it to be honored due to California's Sanctuary State law," Melugin said.

People love to pretend nobody is defending criminal illegal aliens and then stuff like this happens and people start trying to keep him in our country.

 

[Joerules19]

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ICE confirms guy is an illegal from Mexico.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-sa...ice-to-reporter/ar-BB1rn7d4?ocid=BingNewsSerp

"Per ICE sources, the man seen in a viral video being subdued by residents & arrested by police w/ a blowtorch near the #KennethFire in West Hills is an illegal alien from Mexico named Juan Manuel Sierra-Leyva," Melugin wrote Sunday on X.

"He is in custody on a probation violation & has NOT been charged w/ arson. I'm told ICE will place a detainer request on him with the L.A. County Sheriff's Department, but they do not expect it to be honored due to California's Sanctuary State law," Melugin said.

People love to pretend nobody is defending criminal illegal aliens and then stuff like this happens and people start trying to keep him in our country.

Western Journal: lmao. You are proving my point over and over again. You will look at any source/clip/post and as long as it fits your narrative, you will take it as gospel truth. That's the issue I have. Can some of these sites get it right sometimes? Sure, but most of the time it is crap. With that being said, this happens on both sides of the spectrum. There is a lot of bs out there that "left" sources publish. It is not unique to just one side

Care to comment now on your bs post/links about 80% of mass shooters being on ssri meds? I have noticed you have avoided that as multiple posters have called you out on it.

 

[hmt5000]

Western Journal: lmao. You are proving my point over and over again. You will look at any source/clip/post and as long as it fits your narrative, you will take it as gospel truth. That's the issue I have. Can some of these sites get it right sometimes? Sure, but most of the time it is crap. With that being said, this happens on both sides of the spectrum. There is a lot of bs out there that "left" sources publish. It is not unique to just one side

Care to comment now on your bs post/links about 80% of mass shooters being on ssri meds? I have noticed you have avoided that as multiple posters have called you out on it.

OK, so are you saying the guy isn't a Mexican illegal?

https://nypost.com/2025/01/13/us-ne...-kenneth-fire-is-an-illegal-immigrant-report/

https://www.latimes.com/california/...-felon-and-entered-country-illegally-ice-says

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14277307/Illegal-immigrant-blowtorch-detained-residents-Los-Angeles-Juan-Manuel-Sierra-
Leyva.html

Let me know when I find a source that you accept. I get the feeling there aren't any. Anything you disagree with is fake.

 

[WillGolf4Food]

People love to pretend nobody is defending criminal illegal aliens and then stuff like this happens and people start trying to keep him in our country.

Thanks for providing a more substantive source for blow torch guy. Hard for me to believe Sarah Rose who for all I know is a nail tech in Boise with nothing to lose if she gets her story wrong. And looking at her X feed she’s obviously biased.

All for shipping illegal criminals back once the border is fixed, else they might come back.

From the same media that claimed the border was secure?

What are you even thinking about with that?

So you put faith in Sarah Rose the nail tech in Boise? What are you even thinking about with that?

hmt5000's response kind of blows your false and tired narrative. Must be hard to see someone in your tribe use “media” to verify this story and mention it was an illegal alien which I was told in this thread they won’t do.

 

[Joerules19]

OK, so are you saying the guy isn't a Mexican illegal?

https://nypost.com/2025/01/13/us-ne...-kenneth-fire-is-an-illegal-immigrant-report/

https://www.latimes.com/california/...-felon-and-entered-country-illegally-ice-says
.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14277307/Illegal-immigrant-blowtorch-detained-residents-Los-Angeles-Juan-Manuel-Sierra-
Leyva.html

Let me know when I find a source that you accept. I get the feeling there aren't any. Anything you disagree with is fake.

I will echo what willgolf4food posted. Why share sites at all that are obviously crap? Right then and there, it takes away a lot of credibility.

If I don't agree with something, I don't call it fake. You might be surprised that I might agree with some of your opinions on certain subjects. I don't like it when people back up their opinions with sh!t sites. That is the issue I had with you. Still waiting for to go back and check on your 80% mass shooters/ssri meds. That still is absolute bullsh!t

 

[JumperJack]

Thanks for providing a more substantive source for blow torch guy. Hard for me to believe Sarah Rose who for all I know is a nail tech in Boise with nothing to lose if she gets her story wrong. And looking at her X feed she’s obviously biased.

All for shipping illegal criminals back once the border is fixed, else they might come back.


So you put faith in Sarah Rose the nail tech in Boise? What are you even thinking about with that?

hmt5000's response kind of blows your false and tired narrative. Must be hard to see someone in your tribe use “media” to verify this story and mention it was an illegal alien which I was told in this thread they won’t do.

I’m telling you, in no uncertain terms, that for you to cover your eyes and ears until you hear or see it verified from what we once called “main stream media” is absurd.

We just lived through a period when that same media lied about Russian collusion, Covid, a laptop, the President’s mental state, the border. Unprecedented in our history, which is saying something since we had the media spark a war in 1898. And you’re saying these people are still the only acceptable arbiters of truth?

You know why I trust a nail tech or anybody else on X over these twats? Because if the nail tech is wrong, she’ll be corrected in real time.

Meanwhile, the NYT and WaPo still haven’t returned Pulitzers they won for reporting on false stories about Russian collusion!

There’s no way you don’t see the problem.

 

[Bill Cosby]

I’m telling you, in no uncertain terms, that for you to cover your eyes and ears until you hear or see it verified from what we once called “main stream media” is absurd.

We just lived through a period when that same media lied about Russian collusion, Covid, a laptop, the President’s mental state, the border. Unprecedented in our history, which is saying something since we had the media spark a war in 1898. And you’re saying these people are still the only acceptable arbiters of truth?

You know why I trust a nail tech or anybody else on X over these twats? Because if the nail tech is wrong, she’ll be corrected in real time.

Meanwhile, the NYT and WaPo still haven’t returned Pulitzers they won for reporting on false story about Russian collusion!

There’s no way you don’t see the problem.

As we speak a jury is determining punitive damages for CNN which they just found liable for defamation as a result of the lies they broadcast on air.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

We just lived through a period when that same media lied about Russian collusion, Covid, a laptop, the President’s mental state, the border.

Yeah … but …