There has been some research that suggests that younger people, 16-35, may be prone to violent aggression when on those medications. It’s not unreasonable to investigate whether the medications may be inappropriate for some people in that age range. Saying the issue is resolved is probably premature and not wise.
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There has been some research that suggests that younger people, 16-35, may be prone to violent aggression when on those medications. It’s not unreasonable to investigate whether the medications may be inappropriate for some people in that age range. Saying the issue is resolved is probably premature and not wise.
So then are you against people between the ages of 16-35 that are on those medications to have restrictions on owning a firearm?
I don't think I ever said the issue was resolved, did I? There's a huge difference between saying young people may be prone to aggression on SSRIs and saying for sure that 90% of mass shooters are on SSRIs, refusing to believe anything to the contrary, and then sharing a study that was completely misunderstood. He then went on to confuse autism with depression and it's clear he has no idea what he's talking about on this topic, but still acted like some sort of expert.
The 90% on SSRIs was presented as fact. Facts aren't things that may be true, or things you saw on social media, or things you feel are probably true. Nowhere did I ever say the issue was settled or that we should pump kids full of SSRIs.
If there was proof I would have accepted it. But at no point did that poster even come close to showing anything close to proof and was unwilling to hear anything to the contrary. I asked for simple proof for a claim that was presented as factual. Is that really unreasonable?
And, the obsession continues.
Let me attempt to answer with a question and see if you comprehend.
So then are you against people between the ages of 16-35 that are on those medications being permitted to drive a vehicle?
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My response was to your silly 10
minute laughter troll comment. The issue is a reasonable one to investigate, regardless of whether he posted an irrelevant link.
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Dude, we all understood your derisive attempt to troll him with that comment.
If it’s quite alright with you, allow me to attempt to answer your question with a question of my own:
So then are you against the people between the ages of 16-35 that are on those medications having restrictions on owning a firearm?
So, guns but not trucks, gotcha.
I get the strange feeling you feel like you are having a gotcha moment. So, while I find the question absurd in response to my post, I will take your bait.
First, I said I think the issue warranted investigation, not that there was a proven correlation. Eliminating rights based on inclusive evidence seems extreme. Are you extreme?
Second, my question to you was not irrelevant. If all people that age on the medications are susceptible to great violence, the sane response is to stop prescribing the meds to that age group. If there is a genetic predisposition to problems with those meds for some young people, the sane response is to eliminate prescribing to those with the predisposition. Because, as suggested by my question, you may want to take away guns, but that does not protect us from trucks.
Sorry, but if someone gets it that wrong they deserve to be trolled a bit. People are way too comfortable thinking they're experts after they've "done their own research", which is mainly just browsing through social media pushed to them by an algorithm, when the vast majority of people have no clue about the topics they're actually "researching."
Looking at something that says "surviving a mass shooting makes kids depressed", thinking it means "depressed kids are doing mass shootings" and then acting like an expert about it should probably get you put in internet timeout for a bit.
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So we need research to believe depressed kids are doing school shootings?
I think logic and fact would support that. Just as we know some were prescribed medications for depression and other issues. Just as we know from testimony that supports the conclusion they were depressed and often anti-social near the time of the event.
Again, the research would suggest investigating a correlation between meds that can have detrimental side effects and these horrific events.
If we have learned anything over the past five years, we have learned that those who mock such theories are often found to be wrong and are often the rubes being played by intended disinformation.
There is no gotcha moment as I don’t care that much about this convo with you, and you don’t need to avoid answering a question as if you’re on federal trial or that your OPINION influences policy. It’s a silly MB for people to shoot the shit. My only minor point through this thread (before you so intelligently said that perhaps I don’t care about the victims in a passive aggressive side post to hmt5000 like a teenage girl) is that we’ve shown time and time again in this country that we have no intention of doing anything in response to mass killings.
Did you know here in Ohio they made recreational marijuana legal, but if you purchase it legally they scan your ID and you are no longer allowed to buy a firearm? And you know what? No one gives a shit. Good I say. How many of these mass killings are followed up by “oh he was acting weird and we told the authorities, he had weird social media posts, he was depressed etc etc”.
Nail has a thread titled cops right now that has videos of a cop beating up a guy for a Facebook post and of 8 cops going to someone’s house and killing him over a stolen weed eater. Why can’t we set it up where if you report someone then a cop had to go to their house and search it? Or if they take these meds and try to buy a gun they have to wait 3 months and get an ok from a therapist? If that happened and the cops searched this guys house and saw explosives and an ISIS flag in his apartment this would have prevented this? Can we do anything at all to try and stop these tragedies?
I’m reading a book currently called the rational optimist and he makes the point that society and people will naturally and collectively agree to the right and moral things for the betterment of all. Typically government interference makes it worse. For example the working poor give 3 times as much to charity than the equally poor on welfare. Currently the majority of the country wants to TRY and put in measures to make society safer but politicians are preventing it. If the majority of the country wants to make it more difficult for the mentally ill to kill people we should allow it for the betterment of all. But currently we are doing nothing about it.
My quip about you and NO victims was a response to your non sequitur bait about posters caring about Muslims but not about gun violence. “Like a teenage girl.” LOL
I would be cautious as well about the motivations of those who claim there’s no link between the over medication and violence. From what I can see, many of them are in the business of prescribing or selling medicine.
This is why any legit, peer-reviewed research piece will include a section about who funded the study. So people reading can try to get a handle on any conflicts of interest that may be present.
“my quip about you” says it all. Anyway, thanks for the thoughtful response, always great conversing with you
People love the term “peer-reviewed,” but it does not have the same gravitas as it once did.
Sorry you did not notice the intended snarky connection to your prior strawman argument.
Not sure what response you were looking for, but you wrote a book about a number of things that were not very interesting or relevant, and seemed like an invitation to a few rabbit holes. I’ll take a pass and let someone else dig in with you. Enjoy your winter day.
Wasn't the NO guy a army vet ? Is it army vets or army vets that do not have color to their skin tone ?
What if the NO guy was on SSRI ? Does that change your opinion ?
Thought about this thread as I read this “reporting” about one of Trump’s nominees (gay people who are conservative or GOP probably gonna be bashed by liberals, so I am sure she has thick skin). Try and find the subjective terms in this non-Fox story.
I admit, I do not know if there has been a peer-reviewed survey of The Advocate.
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I admit, I do not know if there has been a peer-reviewed survey of The Advocate.
Donald Trump nominates lesbian Fox News host Tammy Bruce, who said Democrats fund creating 'mutants'
Bruce has a history of making inflammatory comments on air, including claiming she regretted getting the COVID-19 vaccine and going on several bizarre rants against gender neutral language.
“ Those receiving SSDI benefits for mental impairments are already prohibited from buying a gun under federal law, but they can often pass a background check anyway because their names are not in the FBI’s system.”
It's on the law... They just don't enforce it. You need to quit asking "why won't they let us pass more laws?' and start asking yourself "why don't they enforce the laws on the books?".
I don’t know who these two men are, but I’m 100% certain they’re spewing propaganda to push us further into war. This is their sales pitch, and I’m not buying.
ONE THOUSAND terrorist cells? Lol.
Looks like this and the car bomber got memory holed. So long we hardly knew ye.
Add them to the shooter and would be shooter for curiously and unjustly buried stories of the last few months.
Add them to the shooter and would be shooter for curiously and unjustly buried stories of the last few months.
It’s still being covered every single day by the local news sources down here. Check out NOLA.com (The Times Picayune). The President and 1st lady were in town yesterday. The mayor announced federal funding for some risk threat level I’ve never heard of in advance of the Super Bowl.
No memory hole at all.
No memory hole at all.
Yeah, that's what these two congressmen are doing, for sure. They also didn't say anything about 1000 terrorist cells in their interview. Also, you do know that a "terror cell" could be something as simple as a few people.....it isn't necessarily an organized army.
Buddy I’m not asking for anything other than less mass murders in this fine country of ours. I don’t know what laws are what but if it’s enforcement we need ten great, let’s enforce.
If they disliked you, you were number ten. If they really really disliked you, you were number ten thousand.Bottom line for me.
But I am not sure why we need ten?
