Massacre on Bourbon St, 10 dead 30 injured

[ukcatz12]

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7519390/

Here is the whole thing. the problem is they report any shooting of more than 3 people and within 5 miles of a school on this report which I would assume you realize aren't what we are talking about.... Drug dealers shooting each other 5 blocks from a school isn't the same thing. So they wiggle it down to only 23% or something by adding in all the gang violence.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...s-merits-federal-investigation-300601826.html

This is a pretty good link but the point will be whether you believe a kid going inside a school and shooting people is different than 2 gangs shooting a few people on a street a few blocks away. That is where the debate is skewed. Unfortunately this is one of those politicized things that we aren't going to look at because if it's proven then lots of people lose tons of money selling drugs to kids.

Absolutely laughing my ass off at that first link. You've got it backwards. That study says kids exposed to mass shootings become depressed and are prescribed antidepressants at higher rates than kids not exposed to mass shootings. It is absolutely not saying the kids doing the shootings are on SSRIs.

"We find that local exposure to fatal school shootings leads to persistent and significant increases in youth antidepressant use."

"We find that local exposure to fatal school shootings increases youth antidepressant use by 21.4% in the following 2 y."

The shootings are causing the depression, the depression is not causing the shootings. This is like basic reading comprehension.

 

[ukcatz12]

Amswer me this... Do kids that aren't on ssri's commit school shootings? I can't remember the last one that wasn't "on the spectrum".... For some reason we have a mental health crisis and you want to promote the people in charge while it happened.

I literally just provided you a study showing that kids committing mass shootings are not on SSRIs. You dismissed it without understanding it, which is why I asked my follow up questions.

The person who made the claim needs to provide the evidence, that's how things work. You said 90% of mass shooters are on SSRIs, so either put up or shut up on this one. Show me the where you got that information from.

"On the spectrum" is not the same as being on an SSRI. You know there's a difference between being autistic (on the spectrum), and depressed, right? SSRIs are not usually prescribed to someone who is autistic. It's quite clear you literally have no clue what you're talking about with this topic. Let's just move on so the thread isn't further derailed.

 

[Joerules19]

On domestic mass shootings... 90% of them are on srri's. At one point 6 school shooters in a row. were on the same exact medication and it was never even debated if that medicine should be pulled....

• More serious SSRI side effects include a greater risk of bleeding, suicidal thoughts, and changes in your heart rhythm. Serotonin syndrome can also occur. Get medical help right away if you experience any symptoms of serious side effects.

obviousl;y you want to pass these "common sense" gun laws that everyone agrees on... even though 90% of the shooting are done with legal guns even with more strict laws... but we can't talk about mental health or the use of srri's on children.

I think one problem is that you assume I am way over on the other side believing some weird witchcraft stuff. I just don't want to give up rights everytime something happens because people in our government have repeatedly proven they "will never let a crisis go to waste".

I will look at the links you provided tomorrow (too late, too long for now). My initial thoughts were there would be no way to know this information because it would be a massive violation of HIPPA laws

 

[hmt5000]

OK. Something we should all be able to agree on. Sexual predators who are not citizens should be deported right???? I mean... nobody on this board is going to say pedophiles have a right to become US citizens right?


Every single Republican and 51 Democrats voted in favor. Shockingly, 158 Democrats opposed it.The bill targeted rapists, pedophiles, domestic abusers, and stalkers, ensuring they couldn’t stay in the U.S. Opponents claimed it "demonized immigrants," but how does protecting convicted predators help anyone—especially their victims?

 

[hmt5000]

I will look at the links you provided tomorrow (too late, too long for now). My initial thoughts were there would be no way to know this information because it would be a massive violation of HIPPA laws

That is the problem with accurate info. I remember the Colorado school shooting when I was in HS and it was reported those 2? dudes were on the same antidepressant. The Standard Gravur shooter was also on the same. It seems like they have quit making that public recently... I'm sure it has nothing to do with media getting most of their ad income from big Pharma. The reason you can't get a good number is because dudes like ukcatz wants to say we can pump kids with anything with absolutely no ill effects and if it wasn't so the people making it and prescribing it would tell us... LOL.

 

[Phil_The_Music]

Good lord. Trump could shit his pants on live television and some of you would claim he had a strategic reason for it.

Don't be ridiculous. No one would think there's anything strategic about him doing a Biden impersonation.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

To your point , Trump had control of congress for two years and did little to come up with a long term fix for the border issue. Same with the democrats, Joe had two years of congressional control and did nothing. But for whatever reason they don’t make it a rally cry like the R’s.

1) The wall that liberals fought for virtue signaling political reasons was actually being built, but more importantly

2) The invasion at the border exponentially increased under Dem control (their doing) and they did little to nothing to stop it. Had Trump been in office, our border situation would have been far far more secure.

Now, let’s go back to arguing about irrelevant gun control measures that have nothing to do with New Orleans and very little to do with school shootings.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

You wanna know what’s crazy? Right after that guy ate that pigeon he drove to 6 different gun shows in various states and bought 1,500 machine guns

You want to know what’s crazy? How many school shooting are correlated to gun shows?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

 

[Hank Camacho]

Political posters ruin everything.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Political posters ruin everything.

LOL

“Thread about mass truck slaughter ‘ruined’ by political posting.”

 

[Hank Camacho]

LOL

“Thread about mass truck slaughter ‘ruined’ by political posting.”

Exactly. We can't discuss current topics because you yahoos have to just revert to your pre-existing political gripes and graft them onto whatever is currently happening.

It kills actual interesting discussing and is exhausting.

You all ruin this place.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Exactly. We can't discuss current topics because you yahoos have to just revert to your pre-existing political gripes and graft them onto whatever is currently happening.

It kills actual interesting discussing and is exhausting.

You all ruin this place.

LOL

YOU yahoos!

 

[Ron Mehico]

You want to know what’s crazy? How many school shooting are correlated to gun shows?

Wow, so you’re in favor of autistic pigeon eating Muslims on ssris purchasing machine guns by the handful at gun shows? That’s interesting.

 

[Rebelfreedomeagle]

Time for sensible truck laws?

Every time there’s a mass shooting, especially a school shooting, the NRA holds a rally/fundraiser immediately after close by. I assume there’s going to be a monster truck show in New Orleans next week.

 

[Phil_The_Music]

Exactly. We can't discuss current topics because you yahoos have to just revert to your pre-existing political gripes and graft them onto whatever is currently happening.

It kills actual interesting discussing and is exhausting.

You all ruin this place.

I get where you are coming from and I feel ya, but in people's defense, the country has never been more divided and almost everything is political now. Both halves of the country think the other half is destroying it, and both sides disagree on almost everything. Even sports became political. With little to no common ground, it's not surprising that most conversations turn south when had by multiple people who are on opposite sides of the political spectrum.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Wow, so you’re in favor of autistic pigeon eating Muslims on ssris purchasing machine guns by the handful at gun shows?

Happens every day. That is why we need to worry about those damn gun shows!

Heck, it’s the only reason we are talking now about guns after some ISIS terrorist killed a bunch of people with his truck. So very interesting. If you worry about Muslim terrorism, YOU BETTER damn well care about gun shows.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Every time there’s a mass shooting, especially a school shooting, the NRA holds a rally/fundraiser immediately after close by. I assume there’s going to be a monster truck show in New Orleans next week.

We better get all worked up!!

 

[Caveman Catfan]

I get where you are coming from and I feel ya, but in people's defense, the country has never been more divided and almost everything is political now. Both halves of the country think the other half is destroying it, and both sides disagree on almost everything. Even sports became political. With little to no common ground, it's not surprising that most conversations turn south when had by multiple people who are on opposite sides of the political spectrum.

He had to be joking, because he went with the politics in this thread fairly early.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Everyone has their own political leaning they bring to an issue that informs their perspective. I find that very interesting.

What, in my opinion, ruins things is when the predictable cohort of political posters swoop into seemingly any topic of interest and use that discussion as a vehicle to explain why, for the billionth time, if you really think about it, it is the other side that is to blame for this issue.

It is trite and stiffles what little good conversation there is left here, imo.

 

[WayneDougan]

the country has never been more divided

100%... In fact, I don't know how things could EVER get divided. I guess some states could leave the union and start their own country which would lead to a big war, but thank goodness that could never happen.

What, in my opinion, ruins things is when the predictable cohort of political posters swoop into seemingly any topic of interest and use that discussion as a vehicle to explain why, for the billionth time, if you really think about it, it is the other side that is to blame for this issue.

It is trite and stiffles what little good conversation there is left here, imo.

Block the posters who do this, nerd.

 

[PTI (pti)]

If there’s one positive that comes from this, I hope it shines more light on just how trashy and awful and worthless our mayor is. Some highlights…..

- survived a recall vote
- got busted having an affair with her detail officer (who’s now under fbi investigation for payroll fraud)
- lavishly overspends city money flying around the world to climate conferences and the city council had to threaten to dock her pay to get refunded her 1st class upgrade charges
- ran off the previous interim police chief who attempted to discipline the cop she was f’ing
- gave French Quarter trash contract to crony who wasn’t even in the business

She’s absolute trash.

 

[Joerules19]

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7519390/

Here is the whole thing. the problem is they report any shooting of more than 3 people and within 5 miles of a school on this report which I would assume you realize aren't what we are talking about.... Drug dealers shooting each other 5 blocks from a school isn't the same thing. So they wiggle it down to only 23% or something by adding in all the gang violence.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...s-merits-federal-investigation-300601826.html

This is a pretty good link but the point will be whether you believe a kid going inside a school and shooting people is different than 2 gangs shooting a few people on a street a few blocks away. That is where the debate is skewed. Unfortunately this is one of those politicized things that we aren't going to look at because if it's proven then lots of people lose tons of money selling drugs to kids.

Sorry man but neither of those links proves your original point that 90% of mass shootings were committed by people on ssri’s and 6 school shootings in a row. The first link looked at what happened to the kids who were present (victims) at the time of the shootings w regards to medication AFTER the shooting.

The second link was sourced from the Citizens Commission on Human RightS. Not sure if you are familiar w them but they were started by the Church of Scientology. Not sure how reliable they are

Look I get it to a certain point. Do I think kids are over medicated at times? Sure. I teach so I see it more often than most. With that being, just because a kid may be on meds, doesn’t mean that the meds are causing their actions. Finally where in the world did you get that 90% figure from?

 

[Ron Mehico]

Happens every day. That is why we need to worry about those damn gun shows!

Heck, it’s the only reason we are talking now about guns after some ISIS terrorist killed a bunch of people with his truck. So very interesting. If you worry about Muslim terrorism, YOU BETTER damn well care about gun shows.

Ok, so just to be clear, you ARE ok with a Muslim autistic US citizen on ssris with an ISIS flag in his apartment buying lots and lots of machine guns at a gun show? That’s really interesting.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Ok, so just to be clear, you ARE ok with a Muslim autistic US citizen on ssris with an ISIS flag in his apartment buying lots and lots of machine guns at a gun show? That’s really interesting.

Provide me a link showing that has EVER happened (or a “peer reviewed” survey)!

LOL!!!

 

[Ron Mehico]

Provide me a link showing that has EVER happened (or a “peer reviewed” survey)!

LOL!!!

So then, you ARE ok with it? Interesting.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Interesting.

Obviously.

 

[PTI (pti)]

New Orleans terrorist riding his bike around and filming using Meta glasses.

 

[warrior-cat]

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OK. Something we should all be able to agree on. Sexual predators who are not citizens should be deported right???? I mean... nobody on this board is going to say pedophiles have a right to become US citizens right?


Every single Republican and 51 Democrats voted in favor. Shockingly, 158 Democrats opposed it.The bill targeted rapists, pedophiles, domestic abusers, and stalkers, ensuring they couldn’t stay in the U.S. Opponents claimed it "demonized immigrants," but how does protecting convicted predators help anyone—especially their victims?

But first, once convicted they should serve a sentence. Just deporting them will do no good because they will just try to come back. Chain gangs of hard labor should be their service to this country. If convicted of a violent sex crime, life imprisonment should be their fate with the choice of death if they do not want life imprisonment.

 

[BankerCat12]

Not sure how to post links here from X, but the Assistant DA in NOLA committed suicide last night or this morning.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Ok, so just to be clear, you ARE ok with a Muslim autistic US citizen on ssris with an ISIS flag in his apartment buying lots and lots of machine guns at a gun show? That’s really interesting.

Maybe I’m missing context, but is someone advocating for machine gun sales at gun shows? That’s not legal.

 

[cole854]

Exactly. We can't discuss current topics because you yahoos have to just revert to your pre-existing political gripes and graft them onto whatever is currently happening.

It kills actual interesting discussing and is exhausting.

You all ruin this place.

Facts got your panties in a wad? Or is it you're too blind to see how bad liberals have F'd everything up? Or maybe you're simply too much of a dolt to admit it?

 

[WillGolf4Food]

Or is it you're too blind to see how bad liberals have F'd everything up?

Trump had congressional control for two years, why wasn’t the border secured then?

And before you call me a Lib, which you’re bound to do, I blamed the D’s for the same thing in an earlier post. And it’s the reason I’ve been an independent for years.

You tribalist just can’t get around to blaming your side for anything and that’s where real change will start. Either that or a viable third party.

And what's with the name calling? Are you 13?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

You tribalist …

And what's with the name calling? Are you 13?

 

[WillGolf4Food]

In the context of political discussion it’s simply someone who can’t see fault in their own political party. Not insulting like dolt, just a knock on the lack of objectivity.

 

[Ron Mehico]

Maybe I’m missing context, but is someone advocating for machine gun sales at gun shows? That’s not legal.

Hmt5000 posted a video showing a food cart guy grabbing a pigeon (why? Who the hell knows. Did it have anything to do with Nawlins? No of course not, but this thread went off the rails almost immediately as predicted) so I posted a dumb joke that he went shopping for machine guns afterwards that caused a couple weirdos to start trying to respond seriously to me so I just kept asking dumber and dumber versions of the questions. Apparently political posters have the same sense of humor as transgenders.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Hmt5000 posted a video showing a food cart guy grabbing a pigeon (why? Who the hell knows. Did it have anything to do with Nawlins? No of course not, but this thread went off the rails almost immediately as predicted) so I posted a dumb joke that he went shopping for machine guns afterwards that caused a couple weirdos to start trying to respond seriously to me so I just kept asking dumber and dumber versions of the questions. Apparently political posters have the same sense of humor as transgenders.

Who thought your dumb machine gun comment was serious?

This really went off the rails when you tried to bring gun control into the discussion.

 

[Joerules19]

Hmt5000 posted a video showing a food cart guy grabbing a pigeon (why? Who the hell knows. Did it have anything to do with Nawlins? No of course not, but this thread went off the rails almost immediately as predicted) so I posted a dumb joke that he went shopping for machine guns afterwards that caused a couple weirdos to start trying to respond seriously to me so I just kept asking dumber and dumber versions of the questions. Apparently political posters have the same sense of humor as transgenders.

He also posted that 90% of all mass shooters are on anti-depressants and gave two bullsh!t links. Weird he completely disappeared after that

 

[CaptainBoogerBuns]

Good lord. Trump could shit his pants on live television and some of you would claim he had a strategic reason for it.

It would mean he is trusting--in this case his own farts. That's a kind character trait

 

[ukcatz12]

He also posted that 90% of all mass shooters are on anti-depressants and gave two bullsh!t links. Weird he completely disappeared after that

That first link he gave, and his incorrect interpretation of what it meant, might be the funniest thing I've ever read on this board. He thought the study was saying depressed kids were doing more mass shootings, but the study was really saying children who survive and are exposed to mass shootings are more depressed than normal. I laughed for about 10 minutes straight.