Barnes last got to second weekend march of 2008, he has coached in 4 high major conf great program builder but hasn't been best in big spots
Mark Few just came off my future coach list
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Few would not leave that cushy undemanding job for anything.
Do you by any chance hold your life up to the same level of perfection as you do UK basketball? Do you find yourself dissatisfied with your life because you haven't finished first in every thing you have attempted....Your thinking of not being satisfied with anything other than a NC is absurd....
Have to be at least the second most experienced team in the country. Nevada probably first.
This may be the best total team that Barnes has ever had, even the Durant team at Texas.
People, don't get lured into the Barnes hype. He's got a great team, but he is by no means a great coach.
Brad Stevens.... but we'd have to get lucky and get him on a down swing in boston (eventually it will happen.... even as well as he's doing.. the fans will want him out eventually without a title)
I thought that would be who you’d say. I think he’d be a stretch considering he’s making over 7 Mil a year and not dealing with recruiting, compliance, or rabid blueblood fans. Great coach though but the Option B to that would scare me to death.
like I said you'd have to get lucky and have us need him when Boston is wanting him out for not delivering a title
That move from Texas was like a shot in the arm that Barnes needed. Watching the post game interview with one of the players
By then I would hope the guys have a leader on the team and plays with some fight. The vol team I watched today were diving on the floor for loose balls and playing like their life depended on it.
Barnes will not recruit at UK in a way that will keep the fans here happy. Plus his post-season record is not that great.
Will you still say that when Barnes loses a couple of players and is relying on 3-4 star freshmen? He will be soon.
Maybe if we could force kids to stay the extra years like football does, we wouldn’t need him.
Growing up and in HS my coach always drilled into us to “never be satisfied.” I live by that. Of course there are times where I do get satisfied and complacent but it’s not something I try to let happen very often. If you do something in life then why would you be happy with it unless it’s the very best?
Also, I don’t get paid 8m a year in my life. If I did, I’d sure as hell make sure my employer got their return on investment. At this point Cal is just cashing checks.
He’s already got a top 20 player committed for next year. Besides, his players actually stay and develop. Their number of stars don’t matter as much. When you only get players for one year they better be freaking studs.
The race doesn't always go to the swiftest, but that's the way to bet. Barnes history is what it says he is, just like Tubby's. Great coach for a mid-major. Not so much for the elite.
The 32-6 record UK had in 16-17 is better than any team Barnes has ever coached.
And Bruce Pearl, another flavor of the week among the ill-informed, has had 1 team in D1 with that type of record.
That 32-6 was, at best, depending on how much weight you want to put on tournament performance, the 4th best team Cal has had at UK.
And Bruce Pearl, another flavor of the week among the ill-informed, has had 1 team in D1 with that type of record.
That 32-6 was, at best, depending on how much weight you want to put on tournament performance, the 4th best team Cal has had at UK.
But we're fans. We're not players or coaches or executives who make money from the product.
The point of being a fan should be attempting to glean whatever enjoyment we can. To find hope and to try to make it fun.
I think some analyze the piss out of this thing so that it isn't fun. Or they turn it into a theoretical exercise or something. If you're "never satisfied" as a fan then I don't get why you even watch. History tells you you're going to be disappointed with whoever the coach is.
All that said, this team stinks. That's on Cal. But just generally I don't get the whole "we must strive for perfection" thing from fans because we follow college athletes. I've only seen probably three or four teams in my years of watching at Kentucky who were close to perfect. There have been so many more teams who've been hellaciously fun to watch but you had to kind of stick with them through the tough times.
So, after that one call that you disagree with, he’s no longer a great coach? You're an idiot. People like you are the reason other fan bases make fun of UK fans. I guess you’re one of people who think Cal should be fired?
How much more fun can you have than this? Cats lose, fans question Cal, other fans defend Cal and so it goes. Pages and pages
Good point. This is awesome.
In all seriousness I've always said that Tubby Smith was the best thing to ever happen to UK message boards. Cal's era will never get as...complicated as it got in the Tubby years, but for a long time in Cal's tenure all we could talk about was one-and-dones.
Ahem. You may not realize that when Mark Few got to Gonzaga, the recruiting budget ($8,000 a year) ranked dead last in the West Coast Conference.
As of today, there is only one program (Gonzaga) that has currently made it to the Sweet 16 (or beyond) in back to back to back to back years. There are 2 Elite 8's and the National Title game as part of Few's NCAA tourney record of 12-4 the last 4 years. Only Gonzaga and Kansas have won at least one NCAA tourney game in each of the last 10 dances.
Sure, Kentucky has done better during Few's tenure at Gonzaga ... but they're recruiting budget was slightly higher than $8,000 a year ....
"Barnes, hired at Tennessee in the spring of 2015, has put together four signing classes in Knoxville, with an average ranking of No. 69 nationally and No. 10 in the SEC according to the 247Sports ratings."
Good luck with that in the future. Tennessee's six best players are seniors and juniors. It's not going to be easy to maintain this type of success unless you recruit a few elite players in the future..
Good luck with that in the future. Tennessee's six best players are seniors and juniors. It's not going to be easy to maintain this type of success unless you recruit a few elite players in the future..
He is no different than when he was at Texas. Time will tell if he learned anything. He hasn't yet. He does have a track record as does Cal.
It's Tubby Smith 02-03 and 03-04, and a lot of other coaches who have hit paydirt in certain recruiting classes.
Tubby snagged Gerald Fitch, Erik Daniels, Marquis Estill, Cliff Hawkins, and Chuck Hayes, and all of them developed into far better college players than anyone could have predicted (maybe Hawkins), with none of them good enough to leave school early (other than Estill, but UK still got 3 years out of him). But then it became Bobby Perry and Sheray Thomas and Brandon Stockton and Shagari Alleyne, and a whole lot of other players who just didn't have the talent to be anything other than mediocre (at best) by UK standards.
People don't want to admit that there's a lot of luck involved with any kind of scouting, college and pro, but it's obvious that there is. No one, anywhere, can consistently find the guys that are being wrongly overlooked and translate that into consistent success. Even if someone finds value in a certain type of mostly ignored player, and is able to exploit that, it won't take long for the competition to catch up, and whatever edge there was will be gone within a few years.
I think mj2k10 nailed it. There are times when you recruit a group of players that overachieves and meshes together as a team.
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