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Many lessons to be gleaned from this recruiting haul.

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Last fall, shortly after P.J. Washington made it clear he had committed to UK, very few UK fans could have foreseen UK’s positive recruiting inroads during the winter and spring periods. Starting with Green’s surprise announcement in the late fall, UK and Calipari ended up beating out four schools for four elite recruits, all of which were considered heavy leans elsewhere.

Green was considered a heavy Syracuse lean.

Vanderbilt was considered a TCU lean.

Knox was all but locked up to the ACC.

Diallo was considered a UConn lean.

Bamba was seen as a Duke lean last fall (early on), and although UK didn’t land him, neither did Duke. This can be seen as a net win for UK in an indirect way as Bamba won’t sniff a real shot at a title now. His decision also keeps Duke from being one of the odds-on favorites to win the whole think next spring, taking what would have been a real potential foe out of serious contention.


Cal pulled it off and landed four/five guys who were questionable potential UK recruits at best. I think this class serves as a reminder that most of the time, the predictions and “reading the tea leaves” are not correct – at least not over the last three recruiting cycles.

Going back to the ’16 class, UK was not considered to be on Bam’s radar until about 2 hours before his announcement. Gabriel, likewise, shocked most UK fans when he made a surprise visit to ESPN and picked UK over Duke.

Going back to ’15, Murray, Briscoe, and Skal were not considered UK-leans until about a 5 to 7 days before their announcements (as was the case with Skal/Briscoe) and few had Murray picking UK the day of his announcement, as Oregon was seen as the favorite.

I think the big story here is that UK locked up nine five star recruits in the last three recruiting cycles who were not considered UK leans until about a week to less than a week before they announced. In a few cases (Knox, Bam, Gabriel, Vanderbilt, Murray), most were utterly surprised the day of their announcement.

That being said, take it as a lesson when people here or elsewhere say, “I don’t like UK’s chances with a certain recruit.” The bottom line is that UK has the best recruiter ever, and we don’t know what the hell we’re talking about in the majority of these scenarios.
 
All this shows me is how big of hacks most of these recruiting/college basketball writers are. How do they continue to underestimate Calipari?
 
Looking back i thought Skal and Briscoe were more likely to be at UK than anywhere else

Diallo's plan was a much better fit at UK than anywhere else

Green seemed to change fairly early in the process and UK was a player from that point on

Vanderbilt and Washington was thought to be an either/or situation

Knox really came out of nowhere

Bamba was thought to be a UK lean for some time,I think him not coming is just as big a surprise as was Knox showing up

I think Alexander and Baker will be valuable additions much earlier than most believe.

Lastly Richards is somewhat of a wildcard somewhere between SKJ and Bam
 
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Looking back i thought Skal and Briscoe were more likely to be at UK than anywhere else

Diallo's plan was a much better fit at UK than anywhere else

Green seemed to change fairly early in the process and UK was a player from that point on

Vanderbilt and Washington was thought to be an either/or situation

Knox really came out of nowhere

Bamba was thought to be a UK lean for some time,I think him not coming is just as big a surprise as was Knox showing up

I think Alexander and Baker will be valuable additions much earlier than most believe.

Lastly Richards is somewhat of a wildcard somewhere between SKJ and Bam
Thanks for your expertise.
 
Cal's recruiting methods will continue to be questioned by some on here until he wins that second championship. I think that will finally win over almost all the "Negative Nancies" in the BBN.

Some but not most. It is a given that a lot of people live life never being happy. It is their way of life. It is a choice but some choose the hard road.
 
I think Bagley, Bol, Quickley, and Khavon Moore are all potential commits despite the recent rumblings concerning Bagley skipping college and/or falling in love with Sean Miller and Arizona after showing no signs of wavering from UK that I have seen, other than via forums, make it hard to believe he still isn't Cal's to lose.

I think Javonte Smart, Nazreon Reid, Moses Brown, and Louis King are options.

I think Cal REALLY likes Romeo Langford, Zion Williamson, and Cameron Reddish, but isn't the current leader and will take some of Cal's Knox/Bam magic to pull off.

I think his board, in order, is something like:
#1 Marvin Bagley
#2 Zion Williamson
#3 Romeo Langford
#4 Bol Bol
#5 Immanual Quickley
#6 Khavon Moore
#7 Cameron Reddish
#8 Javonte Smart
#9 Nazreon Reid
#10 Moses Brown
Those 10 are all in 24/7's top 25 overall players. This class is stacked and UK is in a GREAT position. Could you imagine having to tell #15 overall Nazreon Reid that we just don't have room for him? Crazy
#11 Louis King (6'7", 4* multi year player, I hope)

If he could somehow manage to land 5 of those top 6, UK would have to try REAL hard to not win the title even if our only returnees are SGA, Baker, and Tai.

I expect a class of 6-7.

Knox, JV, and Diallo as definite OAD
1-2 Green, WG, Richards, and SKJ OAD
0-2 Baker, n., SGA, and SKJ transferring
Plus, currently 2 more open scholarships for this season.

With Cal as coach, everything is just a guess at this point. I just thought I'd share my current guesses.

All in my completely worthless opinion as always.
 
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Can someone explain Bagley's situation in depth? Is he going into this Sr year? Can he graduate by taking classes this summer, and if so would he be eligible for the 2018 draft?
 
I think it shows a couple of things:

1. The guys we pencil in as locks often get surpassed or become a bigger priority for other schools. Guys like Kobi Simmons get brought up early and fans latch on and assume that's our guy. Cal is much more patient.

2. Our staff doesn't talk. There's a reason Duke and Kansas "lead" for every player every year and then "something happens" late. It's because those staffs run their mouths and thump their chests to the writers, but it isn't reality.

I think that's partially for respect to the kids and letting them have their moment, but it also helps ward off the insane negative recruitment that starts up from the other schools (like duke and Kansas) when it's perceived that UK leads.
 
Even though I dont personally believe Cal is quite the recruiter he was before '13, a lot of that is attributed to other programs embracing the OAD. He's still tbe best by a long shot, but I think Bamba commits to UK before '13. Just the way it is now.

Cal getting a second ring should quite all of those fans who are still flimsy on the system. Whether you like it or not, at that point you just have to let it go. Theres no arguing results.
 
It will be fascinating to see what the recruiting impact of Cal coaching these guys on the U-19 team this year is and I agree that 3 of our top 5 targets (Bol, Langford, & Bagley) are on the team. It will also be interesting to see how Cal treats Bolden after that mess last year.
 
I predict Knox, Diallo, Vanderbilt, Richards, and Gabriel leave.

I predict Green, Washington, Gilgeous-Alexander, Killeya-Jones, Wynyard, and Baker return.

I think we get:

Guard- Quickley, Smart, or Langford.

Wings- Reddish, Barrett(if reclassifies), Williamson, Moore, or King.

Bigs- Bagley, Bol, Reid, or Brown.

Green and Washington start with the three Freshmen.
 
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