I don’t think that’s true at all honestly and Pro FA is very much still rooted in economics because of the salary cap in a lot of ways
Making the Case - Jaland Lowe
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I don’t think that’s true at all honestly and Pro FA is very much still rooted in economics because of the salary cap in a lot of ways
Random Larry Johnson question, does anyone know if he played with Clarence Martin while in Japan?
If I’m not mistaken, Larry eventually worked for Toyota in Georgetown. Looks like before that he both played and coached for the Matsushita team in Japan.
I got to know Clarence in the 90s when he moved to Danville to work for Matsushita. My understanding at the time was that he came to work in Danville to finish out his contract with the company (whom he played for in Japan).
For those who may not recall, Clarence was on that 1986 WKU team that lost to Kenny Walker and the Cats in the NCAA Tournament. He always complained about the refs not letting them touch Kenny Walker. Believe Walker was 11-11 from the field that day.
Great post . I’m REALLY wanting Alvaro. We may not have ONE shooter as good as Brea or j Robinson but the Williams and Alvaro will be on the floor together more imo.
Me too, if you get Alavaro I firmly believe you are a better team than last season.
If you get a poor shooting point guard you really need to surround him with shooters and I don't see that at the moment. I love Oweh but his outside shooting is so so and Garrison is sure not an outside shooter to count on.
I’ve obviously seen a lot more Rondo film than Lowe so I’m not going to put him on that level but I don’t think he’s miles behind in the ball handling department. Rondo is a steadier handle but Lowe has more shake and pop.
The positive is the athleticism which gives him upside. He must improve the shooting though or its going to be rough going with neither he nor oweh being a feared shooter. There wont be space for either to operate.
I have not seen Jaland play so appreciate Villageidiot’s scouting report. Hope his quickness can be used on the defensive end as well with coaching by CMP and staff. He is a young player who may see improvement in all facets of his game with experience and physical maturity. With multiple years of eligibility, assuming that he stays, as a point guard his importance to the team cannot be overstated.
Next years roster, as it stands now, should be quicker and more athletic which may lead to more fast break opportunities and a faster pace of play. I have stated many times on this forum that we need to trust our coaching staff to assemble a team of talented players that have complementary skills resulting in team improvement as the season progresses. I believe Coach Pope is a great teacher of the game and also has his pulse on the chemistry of each player knowing their role. A few more players will be added to the roster and I can’t wait for next season to start. We are fortunate to have a real head coach leading our team.
Next years roster, as it stands now, should be quicker and more athletic which may lead to more fast break opportunities and a faster pace of play. I have stated many times on this forum that we need to trust our coaching staff to assemble a team of talented players that have complementary skills resulting in team improvement as the season progresses. I believe Coach Pope is a great teacher of the game and also has his pulse on the chemistry of each player knowing their role. A few more players will be added to the roster and I can’t wait for next season to start. We are fortunate to have a real head coach leading our team.
For Oweh, yes if he misses shots he will see gap defense. Why? Oweh has above average speed and not much midrange, next to no playmaking skills. None of that is true for Lowe….go watch the film yourself. If people play off him, we might score 95ppg as a team because he will eat teams alive with his passing. Kid is going to be a problem but please don’t take my word for it. Don’t take 24/7 Sports word for it or even Pope’s word for it. Go watch the film. You will be surprised.
He needs someone to pass to that can hit a j or its going to be a long season.
The caliber of big man transfer(s) we get will determine everything.
He wasn’t my initial favorite compared to some of the other guard names that were floating around but the more film (not highlights) I’ve watched, the more he’s growing on me.
His right hand is a little weak but he has great pace and has a little SGA change of pace to get to his spots in his game (something Butler was really good at late in the year as well to use the snake dribble and get the guy in your back)
Shooting mechanics are smooth. Gives me confidence that his percentage last season was a result of a lot of forced deep step backs and that he’ll hit at a higher clip with better shot selection in Popes offense.
Great court vision.
I also think we get one of Pierre or Yates to go Beside him and that changes his role. Don’t love him as option A on offense but he’s a great option b/c 1-2 punch alongside another 3 level scoring combo guard
His right hand is a little weak but he has great pace and has a little SGA change of pace to get to his spots in his game (something Butler was really good at late in the year as well to use the snake dribble and get the guy in your back)
Shooting mechanics are smooth. Gives me confidence that his percentage last season was a result of a lot of forced deep step backs and that he’ll hit at a higher clip with better shot selection in Popes offense.
Great court vision.
I also think we get one of Pierre or Yates to go Beside him and that changes his role. Don’t love him as option A on offense but he’s a great option b/c 1-2 punch alongside another 3 level scoring combo guard
Assuming you get Folgueris, every player he would be passing to can hit jumpers at a high level other than Oweh (accurate but slow shot) and Moreno. I disagree with people thinking last year is a better shooting team. To me, that’s people looking at raw numbers (3pt%) and not considering how the cake is baked. We had so many one-dimensional players which is why our attempts were low. Buckle up because this is gonna be a culture shock to the anti-Pope people.
You remind me of someone complaining about how many presents are under the tree on August the 15th.
1. I get he's fast....but teams are just going under every ball screen with him and wait for him on other side of screen....that will be a simple scouting report on UK
2. If he's so fast...I can give pause to the 3pt percentage....but why is his regular FG percentage so awful. Briscoe while a brick layer from deep shot 43% and 47% FG at UK in his two years. So finishing inside the 3pt line if you're speed and size as a guard should translate with some easy buckets.....but Lowe was as inept on 2s as he was 3s.
In the end, it is what it is, but it's an ominous sign for Pope to be whiffing on not just PG but also his Center (Gwath) and now PF (Caleb Wilson, UAB kid)....I don't to hear talent issues if next year's roster falters to raise the bar in year 2.
2. If he's so fast...I can give pause to the 3pt percentage....but why is his regular FG percentage so awful. Briscoe while a brick layer from deep shot 43% and 47% FG at UK in his two years. So finishing inside the 3pt line if you're speed and size as a guard should translate with some easy buckets.....but Lowe was as inept on 2s as he was 3s.
In the end, it is what it is, but it's an ominous sign for Pope to be whiffing on not just PG but also his Center (Gwath) and now PF (Caleb Wilson, UAB kid)....I don't to hear talent issues if next year's roster falters to raise the bar in year 2.
1.) He had the type of speed that teams are gonna go under the screens even if he was hitting 40% from 3. They gotta do whatever they can to keep up with him and it’s still not enough. There’s nothing “simple” about defending him. Go watch for yourself.
2.) He has had bad shot selection and doesn’t follow through on his threes. His base and form are good, looks very close to Sears. Simple fix on the finish that Pope already teaches. He was asked to do way too much and he won’t be asked to it here.
3.) If you are concerned about missing on portal guys, I’ll just respect your opinion and leave that be. That wasn’t something I was addressing one way or the other in my post as I simply looked for “what does the film tell me about this guy?”
I’m not a pro scout and maybe your own film evaluation shows you something different. I’d look forward to what you see on the tape.
Don’t worry. Once the roster gets set we’re gonna Pentwater all over UT.
Someone on another site mentioned Mike Conley. My initial thought was that may be a good one, but I didn't pay much attention to Ohio St and don't really watch the NBA. But he is a small, quick, left handed guard with moves. I'll take it.
Mike Conley was quick but wasn’t top shelf speed wise and had a more skilled type of game. Was more of a scorer but could facilitate, not sure I see the comp.
He’s more of a Rondo or Wall-type. That doesn’t mean he is as good as either of those, clearly he isn’t. He is of that same archetype though. Pass-first, ultra speedy, speed reading type. Definitely closer to a Rondo but his mechanics are better shot wise. Difficult comp. I know there’s some kind of Evan Miya or Torvik thing where you can punch in numbers and it gives a comp.
Meant to say...Penetrate and kick out or score...sorry, fat fingers
I get it and appreciate your input....I've only watched 4 minutes of highlights on Lowe, so I'm not an expert on him at all.
But my point, I don't necessarily need to a scout or have eons of film to see those stats are just unworldly terrible...so even if he's a crazy talent.....he clearly lacks something big a collegiate guard. And even if he improves (which I suspect he will) he has to improve alot to be average stat wise....to which UK should not be taking these kind of chances given our NIL budget (but maybe we stink at NIL and don't' know it) and the job expectations.
You have to dig to the all time worst UK PG shooters and put up that awful of a stat line at UK. (Mike Porter, Devin Askew, Saul Smith....hell Lowe's number make Savhir Wheeler look like Malik Monk). This decision just makes no sense unless it's about handing the job to Acaden Lewis and we need a cheap backup portal PG that is decent.....which thsi isn't being sold as back up PG....
Well, that’s why basketball goes deeper than raw numbers. I’d ask the question of anyone on this topic: How informed do you want your opinion to be? If you want to use raw stats, go for it. However, there is film free and available, full games on YouTube. If you watch and come away that he isn’t good, I’d respect it. Maybe you watch and find Pope didn’t offer someone due to a lack of information but rather because of the information. God bless!
Would much rather we signed someone that didn’t need 8 paragraphs on how he will be better than his stats.
Do you remember when Wheeler would finish under heavy duress, was 6’3” and had the entire defense gunning to stop him but couldn’t? I don’t either. Go watch the film — you might be surprised.
Thanks OP.
It's not just about his "speed". Lots of guys have that. It's about knowing how and when to use it. Getting to the basket is getting your defender off balance. If you always use that speed the defense can adjust. If you can add subtle changes in your speed the defender and the rest of the defense always have to keep that in mind and that's where it will make him and UK tough to defend. Now all the other defenders have to watch their guy and him.
That's why it will be imperative for this guy to be able to make shots. 37-38% would do wonders with his ability to get his own shot.
It's not just about his "speed". Lots of guys have that. It's about knowing how and when to use it. Getting to the basket is getting your defender off balance. If you always use that speed the defense can adjust. If you can add subtle changes in your speed the defender and the rest of the defense always have to keep that in mind and that's where it will make him and UK tough to defend. Now all the other defenders have to watch their guy and him.
That's why it will be imperative for this guy to be able to make shots. 37-38% would do wonders with his ability to get his own shot.
One thousand percent agree. That’s what’s staggering about this guy, he’s not just fast. His dribbling and passing are elite and he can speed read. Pope will have people singing his praises in a few months and people will think it is so surprising but it isn’t. The framework is already there. His biggest flaw is his shot and the mechanics aren’t even bad. It’s simply follow through and shot selection.
His biggest flaw is his shot. Yeah that's a problem if you are a point guard.
I’m not as skilled at evaluating defense. That’s something I need a lot more time to accurately conclude on. I wasn’t blown away by his defense, but he got multiple steals and he’s really good at intercepting passes. He got a block on a big at the rim as well. He has effort there and all the tools but he guessed wrong on drives and gave up lanes to Hepburn. I’ll let you know on this after I watch a lot more film. Defense is harder for me to say.
He shot almost 90% from the free throw line. That's normally a sign a player may have untapped shooting potential if their percentage from 3 is low.
Butler was a terrible shooter at SDSU. He had a worse offensive rating than Lowe while playing on a much better team. He went from 49 TS% in his last season at SDSU to 60 at UK. System matters.
Just watched the condensed game highlights from the Pitt/UL game…his effort for both on ball defense and help defense was trash.
The good news is it appears to be more a pride/effort/awareness problem than a lack of athleticism. If he has such good vision/awareness as a passer on offense, he should be able to see the floor and read the play a step or two ahead on defense as well.
The bad news is…it appears to be more a pride/effort/awareness problem than a lack of athleticism.
So, if Pope can get thru to Lowe the same way he did with Brea, the kid could be a very good defender. However, if Lowe doesn’t take that coaching and determine to take pride in his defensive effort, he will be insanely frustrating to watch as a fan…because the physical tools are there.
I think a question some should be asking themselves is how did such a terrible shooter make 3rd team All-ACC?
Must be something about his game that pops.
Must be something about his game that pops.
Yeah, the parts of his game that are good… athleticism, quickness, ball handling, court vision, and FT shooting, and even 3pt shooting during his FR year (especially the last 1/2 to 2/3 of the season)… are encouraging because they tell me the parts that don’t show up well statistically (3pt shooting, defense) or on tape (lack of position & effort defensively) are things that are not necessarily a give. To be repeated.
Again, his shooting form, FT shooting, 3pt shooting as a freshman certainly give credence to the thought that poor shot selection was a considerable factor to poor shooting percentages as a soph.
I’m cautiously optimistic about this kid because he appears to have the tools…let’s just hope Pope and his staff can bring the best out of him.
No doubt they believe they can otherwise he wouldn't be here. If we on the board can evaluate the
pluses and minuses of his game the coaching staff has already done that in a deeper dive than all of us combined. As said in other threads the portal is a high stakes crapshoot but based on Popes one year track record I believe we will be ok until we aren't
So other than defense and shooting you like him?
