that was before NILI understand he will get players to fit his system. But he got players at BYU that fit his system and never won an NCAA game.
everything has changed now
that was before NILI understand he will get players to fit his system. But he got players at BYU that fit his system and never won an NCAA game.
how do you know what Pope is doing or who he is going after?BYU has one guy, the Jazz owner, that is their main donor.
Auburn cares more about football, but has many big time donors.
UK has enough money to get who Coach Pope wants, but he is REALLY hung up on PERFECT FIT. That means he is going to find out if the kid he is paying will be a program guy. That's why when they found out Magoon wasn't TOTALLY bought in to playing here, they weren't going to give him more money. Plus, if he's going to test his NBA Draft prospects, who's to say he won't change his mind after he has committed to UK????
Coach Pope is going to be MORE selective this time, even if it means getting a player that isn't as talented.
Not disputing a word of this because I think you nailed it….but why in the heck are we wasting time with the IU guy? He is a team cancer, it’s why Duke cut ties and he hasn’t EVER demonstrated at any point in the last two years that he will fit inside a team concept well? I’m befuddledBYU has one guy, the Jazz owner, that is their main donor.
Auburn cares more about football, but has many big time donors.
UK has enough money to get who Coach Pope wants, but he is REALLY hung up on PERFECT FIT. That means he is going to find out if the kid he is paying will be a program guy. That's why when they found out Magoon wasn't TOTALLY bought in to playing here, they weren't going to give him more money. Plus, if he's going to test his NBA Draft prospects, who's to say he won't change his mind after he has committed to UK????
Coach Pope is going to be MORE selective this time, even if it means getting a player that isn't as talented.
But having that ONE guy make all the difference. He can bankroll the entire team if he wants (which it sounds like be basically is). BYU, in some respects, is now ahead of Kentucky.BYU has one guy, the Jazz owner, that is their main donor.
Auburn cares more about football, but has many big time donors.
UK has enough money to get who Coach Pope wants, but he is REALLY hung up on PERFECT FIT. That means he is going to find out if the kid he is paying will be a program guy. That's why when they found out Magoon wasn't TOTALLY bought in to playing here, they weren't going to give him more money. Plus, if he's going to test his NBA Draft prospects, who's to say he won't change his mind after he has committed to UK????
Coach Pope is going to be MORE selective this time, even if it means getting a player that isn't as talented.
Lewis and Johnson are ranked higher than Moreno and Moreno played pretty darn well. How are you saying this when it should be what anti UK horse sh*t got in lesser ranked guards than our guys? Uconn's 3 guys getting in over Johnson and Lewis was a massive joke
Oh, I agree totally.Not disputing a word of this because I think you nailed it….but why in the heck are we wasting time with the IU guy? He is a team cancer, it’s why Duke cut ties and he hasn’t EVER demonstrated at any point in the last two years that he will fit inside a team concept well? I’m befuddled
His coach said he was willing to settle for less money.how do you know that?
Keep believing Duke “cut ties” if you want. Certain posters on here have way too much credibility and many of you just believe what they say.Not disputing a word of this because I think you nailed it….but why in the heck are we wasting time with the IU guy? He is a team cancer, it’s why Duke cut ties and he hasn’t EVER demonstrated at any point in the last two years that he will fit inside a team concept well? I’m befuddled
Keep believing Duke “cut ties” if you want. Certain posters on here have way too much credibility and many of you just believe what they say.
Now you can have an opinion on the player all you want but that isn’t part of it.
Magoon isn't a passing center, which, along with his weight, were the only detractors. He's an athletic freak, a shot blocker, and a three point shooter.Serious question. Was everyone excited about Magoon? Never even heard of him until yest. Watched film of him yest and was like " He is skinny. He will get handled badly in the SEC." He has talent. But we need Bruiser types underneath for the SEC. He got cold feet. Best of luck to the dude.
Yeah he didn’t want to compete with what they had coming in. Which isn’t something you like to see. But the narrative Duke told him to leave is just ignorant.Wasn't he basically recruited over? That was my takeaway.. Duke did its usual "take anyone higher rated no matter what" and Mgbako saw the writing on the wall, in that his playing time was going to take a hit.
The Duke piece has very very little to do with my evaluation of him as a player and as a person. It remains a HARD PASS due to the lack of effort he repeatedly put on tape at IU, and that his team repeatedly played better when he wasn’t on the court.Keep believing Duke “cut ties” if you want. Certain posters on here have way too much credibility and many of you just believe what they say.
Now you can have an opinion on the player all you want but that isn’t part of it.
Yeah he didn’t want to compete with what they had coming in. Which isn’t something you like to see. But the narrative Duke told him to leave is just ignorant.
That one guy is dwarfed by the money in LexingtonBut having that ONE guy make all the difference. He can bankroll the entire team if he wants (which it sounds like be basically is). BYU, in some respects, is now ahead of Kentucky.
I can't comment on the perfect fit part. You might be right, I just personally dont have enough data here. But I'm not sure Kentucky should really be "more" selective, when 350 other schools can now pay players. I think we have to take some risks.
In the end, I try and remember that we really just need 4-5 guys, tops.. and not 10-12 guys like we had. But I've said this all year long, that I really don't think UK is poised that well for the incoming NIL era. I'm very concerned with what I've been seeing.
Grow a pair. If it is end of May and we don't have our dudes then you can rationally be concerned.Is it okay to be a little concerned now?
Those things are fine but using Duke didn’t want him and knew all this would happen when there was an argument he could be #1 in is class is silly.The Duke piece has very very little to do with my evaluation of him as a player and as a person. It remains a HARD PASS due to the lack of effort he repeatedly put on tape at IU, and that his team repeatedly played better when he wasn’t on the court.
It's the relationship with the staff already plus ponying up in my mind. You said returning BG and a McDonald's all American, remember BG is also a McDonald's all AmericanWell the consensus by many was that if BG and Moreno were both here next year, PLUS Magoon, it would probably have to involve one of those 3 getting solid minutes at the 4 spot.
If we land those other 2 (Yaxel and Alvaro), there are suddenly no minutes to be had at the 4 spot, thus Magoon would need to compete with a returning BG and a McDonalds All-American for minutes at the 5 spot.
Idk, grasping here but I feel like there must be something here beyond SDSU just ponying up.
That one guy is dwarfed by the money in Lexington
The tape don't lie but you could say the same about Jaxson Robinson before he was coached by Pope.The Duke piece has very very little to do with my evaluation of him as a player and as a person. It remains a HARD PASS due to the lack of effort he repeatedly put on tape at IU, and that his team repeatedly played better when he wasn’t on the court.
If you think for a second Cal didn’t try to suck this program dry you’re a f*ckin idiot lol..Boosters aren't idiots, they have that money for a reason. There's no reason why they'd harbor some weird fanatical grudge that you have, and hold out giving money even after Cal is gone. That's silly, and it was just a way for you to try and pin this all on Cal.
If you think for a second Cal didn’t try to suck this program dry you’re a f*ckin idiot lol
He just posted this. He was ahead of the Gawth drama so let’s see how connected or lucky this dude is.
This dude saying we doing something today.
I don't know when you guys are going to figure out I'm trying to be popular here. Someone told me the other day on here they appreciate my posts. That's one person. That makes it worth it to me. You guys are wasting your time attacking me. I'm not posting for my benefit. I know it's hard to see that in other people when you're only posting for yours. What I posted was objectively hilarious. Sorry that you can't see that. And I mean that. It's unfortunate.Bro…. You’re the last one to throw shade on here lol ..
I don't know when you guys are going to figure out I'm trying to be popular here. Someone told me the other day on here they appreciate my posts. That's one person. That makes it worth it to me. You guys are wasting your time attacking me. I'm not posting for my benefit. I know it's hard to see that in other people when you're only posting for yours. What I posted was objectively hilarious. Sorry that you can't see that. And I mean that. It's unfortunate.
I'm not sure how you can even compare recruiting at BYU. Even with big NIL money, you're asking teenage males to adhere to a moral code that 95% of us wouldn't follow at that age. Some can without issue, but it's an added hurdle to landing players. I'm certain BYU is happy with their coach now as he can convince some good players to go there.
I'm sure Pope, while certainly a man who has his own moral code, feels a bit liberated to recruit at UK and let players experience the college environment most people envision, the same one his teammates experienced in the 90's, except with Lambo money.
some how I doubt thatThat one guy is dwarfed by the money in Lexington
Who in the hell would try to be popular on a basketball forum? It’s all opinions, that’s all lol.I don't know when you guys are going to figure out I'm trying to be popular here. Someone told me the other day on here they appreciate my posts. That's one person. That makes it worth it to me. You guys are wasting your time attacking me. I'm not posting for my benefit. I know it's hard to see that in other people when you're only posting for yours. What I posted was objectively hilarious. Sorry that you can't see that. And I mean that. It's unfortunate.
Hurt me? I give 0 f*cks what ANYBODY does unless it involves my family lol. For you to think he wasn’t sucking the program dry WAY before NIL, you’re delusional.. That’s my option at least🤷 Honestly…. I liked your posts , but damn… can’t imagine how you don’t see that. Guess we’ll agree to disagree 😐Lmfao, in what meaningful way? What did he possibly do that has any tangible effect on the program right NOW?
He can't hurt you anymore.. you don't need to make up false narratives.
Hurt me? I give 0 f*cks what ANYBODY does unless it involves my family lol. For you to think he wasn’t sucking the program dry WAY before NIL, you’re delusional.. That’s my option at least🤷 Honestly…. I liked your posts , but damn… can’t imagine how you don’t see that. Guess we’ll agree to disagree 😐
Probably so. But are we recruiting them? Not really, considering the names that have come out of the guys we are after. Are we landing them? Definitely not.Im not big on anyone who played for SDSU this season so Im relieved. Better players out there.
It maybe different now but just a decade or so ago they suspended one of their best players for the tournament in one of their best years in decades because he’d broken one of the moral codes. I think he was found to have had sex. Oh the humanity.I mean, doesn't that make it even worse? That young males (many African-American) are choosing that school and those restrictions?
That said, something tells me BYU is turning a blind eye to what it's athletes are doing. They're able to circumvent these rules I'm sure.
Probably so. But are we recruiting them? Not really, considering the names that have come out of the guys we are after. Are we landing them? Definitely not.
It maybe different now but just a decade or so ago they suspended one of their best players for the tournament in one of their best years in decades because he’d broken one of the moral codes. I think he was found to have had sex. Oh the humanity.
I don't know what it says, all I can say is I'm confident Mark Pope expected his players to follow both the letter and the spirit of the code of conduct at BYU.I mean, doesn't that make it even worse? That young males (many African-American) are choosing that school and those restrictions?
That said, something tells me BYU is turning a blind eye to what it's athletes are doing. They're able to circumvent these rules I'm sure.