Louisville moves up giving us 6 Quad 1 wins, but we only move up 1 spot after A&M win.

[Rideordiewildcat]

Yet we only move up 1 spot in the NET to 12th still behind Zags with 2, Michigan with 3 and a Quad 2 loss, Illinois with 4 losses and a Quad 2 loss.

Only 1 team ahead of us has.more Quad 1 wins and that's Aub.

NET experts explain this, 12-3 HOU is 3rd and has zero Quad 1 wins, 0-3. Their biggest win is 47th BYU. Next cloest is 74th. Meanwhile we are 12th and 6-3🤡

 

[WildcatSir]

We have the best resume in college basketball end of story. The need to fix the NET asap. We should be number 1 in the net.

 

[fatguy87]

Look at the scores of Houston’s recent games. That’s why.

Quad 1 wins aren’t actually a factor for NET ratings.

 

[Ron Mehico]

Look at the scores of Houston’s recent games. That’s why.

Quad 1 wins aren’t actually a factor for NET ratings.

I appreciate the explanation for why the NET is dumb and silly.

 

[SemperFiCat]

So many formulas, rankings, and 'ologies. Yet none of them seem really dialed in. Just glad we are back near the top in the quagmire of it all.

 

[Cats192]

It seems silly to have a quad system and then say the quads don't really matter.

 

[CatEye2010]

It seems silly to have a quad system and then say the quads don't really matter.

They matter at seeding time to justify why they do what they do. But obviously there are metrics operating that we don't see/know. A cloak of secrecy so they can ultimately do what they want.

But, I like our chances going forward to get a seed very few of us thought possible in Pope's first season.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

It seems silly to have a quad system and then say the quads don't really matter.

The biggest change to the quad system needs to be that if at the moment of the game the win ends being a quad 1 it stays that way for the rest of the season, it doesn’t change as the year goes on

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

We have the best resume in college basketball end of story. The need to fix the NET asap. We should be number 1 in the net.

I'd say close but I'd have us at #2, not Dook who's beating up on nobodies. Aub has 9 Quad 1 wins so it's fair they are 1 but we have 6 and most ahead of us have 3 and of course HOU has zero.

 

[bbncal02]

The biggest change to the quad system needs to be that if at the moment of the game the win ends being a quad 1 it stays that way for the rest of the season, it doesn’t change as the year goes on

This. I HATE the NET as it currently stands. Because say you beat a team at full strength and then aliens show up and steal their talent...now they suck. Is that your fault? No, but you'll basically have a Q1 game go to a Q4 game and your win looks less impressive even though you beat them at their best.

 

[TucsonCat]

Kentucky has lost against numbers 26, 31, and 36. By up to 20 points.
Houston has only lost against 1, 9, and 39. By no more than 5 points.

 

[The_Answer1313]

People really need to understand the differences between resume and what the intention of these computer rankings are trying to do.

The fact that Houston is 0-3 vs Q1 teams sucks from a resume standpoint, but it doesn't mean that they can't have a great NET if they took care of business in their other games.

Thing is no one should really care about this because seeding is still very much based on resume.

Houston on the bracket matrix project is currently a 5 seed. Despite them being 3rd in both KP and NET.

The fact is the computer metrics are better at predicting tournament success than the resume method.

I would be 100% confident that a 5 seed Houston overperforms their seeding come March. I sure as heck would not want to see them in my region at that seed.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

People really need to understand the differences between resume and what the intention of these computer rankings are trying to do.

The fact that Houston is 0-3 vs Q1 teams sucks from a resume standpoint, but it doesn't mean that they can't have a great NET if they took care of business in their other games.

Thing is no one should really care about this because seeding is still very much based on resume.

Houston on the bracket matrix project is currently a 5 seed. Despite them being 3rd in both KP and NET.

The fact is the computer metrics are better at predicting tournament success than the resume method.

I would be 100% confident that a 5 seed Houston overperforms their seeding come March. I sure as heck would not want to see them in my region at that seed.

This Houston team doesn’t have anybody like the shead last year. They are still great defensively but they don’t have a dynamic playmaker like him

 

[The_Answer1313]

This Houston team doesn’t have anybody like the shead last year. They are still great defensively but they don’t have a dynamic playmaker like him

Possibly but their offensive numbers are actually better this year than last and they still have that elite defense that Sampson has had there for the past 7 years now.

Definitely not a 5 seed lol.

 

[chroix]

This squad is going to be beyond tested. 10+ top 15 matchups before the tournament. We could end up playing 15 top 15 teams in one season depending on tournament draws. Epic season. Thank God we got a real coach.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Possibly but their offensive numbers are actually better this year than last and they still have that elite defense that Sampson has had there for the past 7 years now.

Definitely not a 5 seed lol.

Yeah if they are the 1 seed in that region and the 4 seed got screwed over

 

[jbne222]

The biggest change to the quad system needs to be that if at the moment of the game the win ends being a quad 1 it stays that way for the rest of the season, it doesn’t change as the year goes on

This would be awful.

Imagine two teams:
Team 1: Starts off the season top 10 but ends up missing the tournament
Team 2: Starts off the season unranked but finishes in the top 10

By your proposed system, if a team were to play both of these teams early on the season, it’d be better to beat Team 1?? That would be terrible.

 

[jbne222]

People really need to understand the differences between resume and what the intention of these computer rankings are trying to do.

The fact that Houston is 0-3 vs Q1 teams sucks from a resume standpoint, but it doesn't mean that they can't have a great NET if they took care of business in their other games.

Thing is no one should really care about this because seeding is still very much based on resume.

Houston on the bracket matrix project is currently a 5 seed. Despite them being 3rd in both KP and NET.

The fact is the computer metrics are better at predicting tournament success than the resume method.

I would be 100% confident that a 5 seed Houston overperforms their seeding come March. I sure as heck would not want to see them in my region at that seed.

Well said. The NET is used as a sorting tool to help determine the quality of a teams wins and losses based on the NET rankings of their opponents. In terms of seeding, a teams OWN rating doesn’t mean as much (Houston is a great example of this)

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

This would be awful.

Imagine two teams:
Team 1: Starts off the season top 10 but ends up missing the tournament
Team 2: Starts off the season unranked but finishes in the top 10

By your proposed system, if a team were to play both of these teams early on the season, it’d be better to beat Team 1?? That would be terrible.

So having the win lose credibility because it was at a bad time during the season or early in the season is better? In the system im saying you get the credit you should get at the time, if its a top 10 win in late December it should stay a Q1 win.

 

[jbne222]

So having the win lose credibility because it was at a bad time during the season or early in the season is better? In the system im saying you get the credit you should get at the time, if its a top 10 win in late December it should stay a Q1 win.

Idk. I think you're asking for preseason rankings to matter way more than they should in regards to an NCAA tournament resume.

When Kentucky beat Miami at Rupp last year they were #8 in the country, but finished 15-17 and didn't even make the NIT.

As a UK fan would I like a win like that to hold the same weight on a tournament resume as winning @Auburn or @Tennesee? Sure. But does it make sense as an objective basketball fan? Absolutely not.