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Louisville Fans' Justification...

Cat78Scot

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Long time reader, infrequent poster here. I live in Louisville and have been a Cat fan since watching my very first basketball game on March 27, 1978. I've lived in Louisville on and off since 1974 so I feel like I have a pretty good foundation of knowledge of the Louisville fans and their general psyche and a very healthy dislike of them in general!

For my entire life I've heard from Card fans that UK cheats, regardless of the current coach or administration. That chatter ramped up significantly when Cal became our coach and, without reason to investigate further, I'll admit I had a similar view of Coach Cal. When it was rumored he was to be our next head coach I was worried, having heard all the rumors and knowing about the problems at UMASS and Memphis that I assumed he had a hand in. So I looked into things further.

I won't go into specifics because the facts are what they are if you choose to open your mind and investigate. Suffice to say, I felt much better once I looked deeper at both situations. So my theory is this, I'd be interested in hearing everyone's opinion.

I believe that a vast majority of UofL fans continue to believe that Coach Cal cheats and there is no way UK could keep getting the high quality recruits they get without some form of enticement or illegal benefits given to them. Given that fact, I truly believe that they justify any and all actions taken to sign and keep players based on this belief. 'If you can't beat them, join them' type thing.

On one of the threads someone has asked what the average IQ is of UofL fans. I actually don't think that comes into play. I have friends that are UofL fans, friends that own businesses and are very smart and savvy individuals. It truly amazes me the logic, or lack thereof, that these people display. I've told these people that if this was Coach Cal, I'd want his head on a platter for putting UK in such a position. They are having NONE of it!

They claim, to a person, that UK would look the other way and would back Coach just like they are backing Pitino. I feel the exact opposite. If Coach Cal was caught cheating it would embarrass the hell out of me as a Cat fan, especially if it was by hiring hookers (him or his staff)! It would validate all the trash talk they and many other rival fans have had about UK for all these years!

As many others have said, it's incredibly ironic that UK has been vilified for so long (cheating, racism, etc) when in actuality it's the accusers that have been ten times worse and have gotten away with it most of the time!! UCLA with Gilbert, UNC, Duke and now UofL all have done worse in modern times than UK has done. And most of the 'evidence' against UK is suspect at best. I know we have had some transgressions in the past but it appears they mostly pale in comparison to what these 'saints' of college basketball have done!

Any way, sorry for the long post but I'm really interested in what you all think about this theory about how UofL fans are justifying the continued cheating and stonewalling going on at UofL.
 
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Long time reader, infrequent poster here. I live in Louisville and have been a Cat fan since watching my very first basketball game on March 27, 1978. I've lived in Louisville on and off since 1974 so I feel like I have a pretty good foundation of knowledge of the Louisville fans and their general psyche and a very healthy dislike of them in general!

For my entire life I've heard from Card fans that UK cheats, regardless of the current coach or administration. That chatter ramped up significantly when Cal became our coach and, without reason to investigate further, I'll admit I had a similar view of Coach Cal. When it was rumored he was to be our next head coach I was worried, having heard all the rumors and knowing about the problems at UMASS and Memphis that I assumed he had a hand in. So I looked into things further.

I won't go into specifics because the facts are what they are if you choose to open your mind and investigate. Suffice to say, I felt much better once I looked deeper at both situations. So my theory is this, I'd be interested in hearing everyone's opinion.

I believe that a vast majority of UofL fans continue to believe that Coach Cal cheats and there is no way UK could keep getting the high quality recruits they get without some form of enticement or illegal benefits given to them. Given that fact, I truly believe that they justify any and all actions taken to sign and keep players based on this belief. 'If you can't beat them, join them' type thing.

On one of the threads someone has asked what the average IQ is of UofL fans. I actually don't think that comes into play. I have friends that are UofL fans, friends that own businesses and are very smart and savvy individuals. It truly amazes me the logic, or lack thereof, that these people display. I've told these people that if this was Coach Cal, I'd want his head on a platter for putting UK in such a position. They are having NONE of it!

They claim, to a person, that UK would look the other way and would back Coach just like they are backing Pitino. I feel the exact opposite. If Coach Cal was caught cheating it would embarrass the hell out of me as a Cat fan, especially if it was by hiring hookers (him or his staff)! It would validate all the trash talk they and many other rival fans have had about UK for all these years!

As many others have said, it's incredibly ironic that UK has been vilified for so long (cheating, racism, etc) when in actuality it's the accusers that have been ten times worse and have gotten away with it most of the time!! UCLA with Gilbert, UNC, Duke and now UofL all have done worse in modern times than UK has done. And most of the 'evidence' against UK is suspect at best. I know we have had some transgressions in the past but it appears they mostly pale in comparison to what these 'saints' of college basketball have done!

Any way, sorry for the long post but I'm really interested in what you all think about this theory about how UofL fans are justifying the continued cheating and stonewalling going on at UofL.
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I put UL/RP Bobby Petrino/Jurich/Pres./ as akin to the Affluenza kid. Their picture should be put with Ethan. Someone smarter than me can come up with catch phrase and put picture of these clowns up.

UL allowed massive irregularities to occur, RP and his extortion case, abortion, pay offs, Petrino lying about interviewing with Auburn a long time ago, leaving, motorcycles, overdoses, Jones and rape accusations, Yum center illegal stuff. You get the picture.

This punk kid was given a pass because he was so affluent that he could not make own decisions. RP and UL are the affluent kid who has never had to answer to the local powers because they are part of the same moral fiber,

UL has never had to answer for their sins. I am thinking UL fans are like Ethan's parents.
 
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They have to try and rationalize it in some way. It is too much for them to bear to actually accept who they are in the basketball world compared to who we are.

ul has been dirty for years in their efforts to keep up with UK. They have been caught cheating in the past and have basically received a slap on the wrist. Regardless of what they say now, they know, to a man, that they are going to suffer serious consequences for this latest debacle.

Pitino was talking to the fans in his press conference Friday. He wants them to gather in the street in support of him like Penn St. fans did for Joe Pa. I believe we all know what he meant when he was talking about how much money they make and why that would preclude them from cheating. He said "some may be". He was talking about Cal.

Pitino owned them when he was at UK and they misunderstood. They thought it was because of him. It was because of the combination of him, UK, and us, that he was so successful here. He is desperate for them to believe he is special and they are desperate to be special.

They are in a death spiral as we speak. Some of them know it and admit it, others know it and deny it. Pitino knows it and will tell the rats anything he needs to to keep them from jumping off the sinking ship.
 
With all that money behind it, U of L athletics is like a runaway corporation.
 
I put UL/RP Bobby Petrino/Jurich/Pres./ as akin to the Affluenza kid. Their picture should be put with Ethan. Someone smarter than me can come up with catch phrase and put picture of these clowns up.

UL allowed massive irregularities to occur, RP and his extortion case, abortion, pay offs, Petrino lying about interviewing with Auburn a long time ago, leaving, motorcycles, overdoses, Jones and rape accusations, Yum center illegal stuff. You get the picture.

This punk kid was given a pass because he was so affluent that he could not make own decisions. RP and UL are the affluent kid who has never had to answer to the local powers because they are part of the same moral fiber,

UL has never had to answer for their sins. I am thinking UL fans are like Ethan's parents.

Good analogy. All these years I've heard that UK has a win at all costs mentality. Now they all say 'everyone does it'! I think this would make a very interesting thesis for some graduate student somewhere!

It's incredible to me the lengths some people go to to justify their beliefs. You see the same thing in many different facets of life. The hypocrisy is just astounding!
 
I know some uofl fans that own their own business, are very wealthy, are highly intelligent, are very religious and have very high morals, but they still support uofl basketball. I ask myself daily, how can they do that?
 
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