Let's look at B-12s ranked teams' performance outside conference

[SilentsAreGolden]

Keep in mind, I am only counting opponents not in the B-12 in this summary. Formerly ranked teams refers to teams ranked at the time the games were played.

- Baylor ranked 21. 0-0 against formerly or currently ranked teams outside the conference

- Oklahoma ranked 19. 0-1 against currently ranked teams (Wisc 16-2), 1-1 against formerly ranked teams. Beating UCLA (11-7), lost to Wash (13-4)

- West Virginia ranked 18. 1-0 against formerly ranked teams. Beat UConn (9-7)

- Texas ranked 17. 1-1 against currently ranked teams. Beating Iowa (13-5), losing to UK (17-0). 1-0 against formerly ranked teams (UConn 9-7)

- Kansas ranked 11. 1-1 against currently ranked teams. Beating Utah (14-3), losing to UK (17-0). 1-0 against formerly ranked teams, beating Mich State (12-6)

- Iowa State ranked 9. 1-0 against currently ranked teams. Beating Iowas (13-5). 1-0 against formerly ranked teams, beating Arkansas (13-4).

So, that is SIX ranked teams with an astounding TOTAL record of 3-3 against currently ranked teams outside their own conference. One team has not played a currently OR formerly ranked team outside the B-12. Two of them haven't played any currently ranked teams. They are 4-1 against formerly ranked teams with wins over UCLA, UConn, Mich State, and Arkansas.

Begging the question, why are so many of them ranked when they are .500 against other ranked teams of other conferences? Plus, they have only six games total, an average of ONE per team. Sorry, but I see little difference between the mighty B-12 and other conferences not named the ACC. I will do the SEC next, which I don't expect to be very impressive either, but we only have one ranked team, so that would be about right.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Do one of these for every conference. Very interesting. You do seem to hate the Big XII though Silents.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:
Do one of these for every conference. Very interesting. You do seem to hate the Big XII though Silents.

Not the conference. Just the slurpage it gets. I used to be that way about the Big-Ten, but they are getting less of that this year. I actually like most of the B-12 teams outside of Kansas.

 

[Smashcat]

Doesn't even begin to tell the whole story. WVU lost to LSU and Iowa State lost to South Carolina. KSU is leading the Big 12 and has lost to UT and UGA. I heard big mouth Vitale Saturday call the Big 12 "superb" top to bottom but not mention of why. The reason KU rules the conference is because the conference is overrated.


This post was edited on 1/19 2:05 PM by Smashcat

 

[SaguaroCat]

Well sagarin ranks them the number one conference as well with all of those teams in the Top twenty.So it's not just hype.those are cold, calculating, unfeeling computers that back up the human eyeball test. I would suggest it involves more than just record against current ranked teams. He'll, even your post shows they are 8-4 against probably to fifty teams.At least. Again, it goes deeper than just that.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Originally posted by SaguaroCat:
Well sagarin ranks them the number one conference as well with all of those teams in the Top twenty.So it's not just hype.those are cold, calculating, unfeeling computers that back up the human eyeball test. I would suggest it involves more than just record against current ranked teams. He'll, even your post shows they are 8-4 against probably to fifty teams.At least. Again, it goes deeper than just that.

Those cold calculating computers are using models with the biggest flaw on earth, SOS. The B12 is overrated and overhyped every year. Just make a "safe" schedule OOC and you're pretty well set every year. Then of course the tournament comes along and you actually have to prove it.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Originally posted by SaguaroCat:
Well sagarin ranks them the number one conference as well with all of those teams in the Top twenty.So it's not just hype.those are cold, calculating, unfeeling computers that back up the human eyeball test. I would suggest it involves more than just record against current ranked teams. He'll, even your post shows they are 8-4 against probably to fifty teams.At least. Again, it goes deeper than just that.

I'm not saying it's not better than the SEC or even that it's not the 2nd best conference. But the numbers don't show it to be this powerful juggernaut that they make it out to be. If it were, they wouldn't just be beating up on teams 25-50, but also 1-25.