Leonard Hamilton being sued for broken NIL promises

[WildcatNC]

Can we sue players like Sharpe for stealing NIL money?

Can schools sue kids that got a million bucks and played like a hundred bucks.

 

[fredmanthecatfan]

It seems like a microcosm of “why we can’t have nice things”.
I think that back in the day Ed O’Bannon had a point. A lot of people were making money off of his ( and many others’ image”, and it didn’t seem right that he wouldn’t get a slice.
NIL was supposed to allow players to get a slice of what they generate. It turned into “Pay me to come to your school” to “Pay me more than what other schools offer”.
I think agents and attorneys got a hold of this and screwed it all up.

 

[UKnCincy]

It seems like a microcosm of “why we can’t have nice things”.
I think that back in the day Ed O’Bannon had a point. A lot of people were making money off of his ( and many others’ image”, and it didn’t seem right that he wouldn’t get a slice.
NIL was supposed to allow players to get a slice of what they generate. It turned into “Pay me to come to your school” to “Pay me more than what other schools offer”.
I think agents and attorneys got a hold of this and screwed it all up.

Agents and attorneys didn’t start the collectives, and they’re not the ones providing the funds or the ones making the offers.

Boosters and coaches are the ones wanting to throw huge sums of money around to acquire talent. This form of “NIL” could all end tomorrow if the boosters and coaches simply chose to stop offering it. No one is forcing them to spend this money.

 

[Skyguyb27]

Bowel games are hard to watch now with players opting out. Before nil it made some kind of sense but if their getting paid, they better play in the bowel game. Watched Miami's QB deciding not to play in the second half the other night. That guy made bank this year. If I were paying NIL, I'd be pissed. Miami lost by one.

Bowel games always leave me feeling dirty.

 

[ukbb2003]

And just like in most cases, the only ones winning are the attorneys.

 

[BeaveUKGT]

Bowel games are hard to watch now with players opting out. Before nil it made some kind of sense but if their getting paid, they better play in the bowel game. Watched Miami's QB deciding not to play in the second half the other night. That guy made bank this year. If I were paying NIL, I'd be pissed. Miami lost by one.

Maybe try some school softeners.

 

[Ron Mehico]

Agents and attorneys didn’t start the collectives, and they’re not the ones providing the funds or the ones making the offers.

Boosters and coaches are the ones wanting to throw huge sums of money around to acquire talent. This form of “NIL” could all end tomorrow if the boosters and coaches simply chose to stop offering it. No one is forcing them to spend this money.

Those poor lil agents just trying to help!

 

[bigblueinsanity]

These "promises" go both ways; you get NIL money for producing results.
I have no problem with any school who pays for play asking for a refund when said player craps the bed with poor results.
Works that way in real life so these kids need to get used to be held accountable.

One of the few restrictions on nil deals is they cant be performance or incentive based. So its literally a one way street. Of course that rationale is based off the true concept of nil, not the pay to play we have today.

I love seeing stories like this. I hope it keeps getting more and more outrageous. Thats the only way someone somewhere will wise up and say this is no longer working, which is the only way we will get reasonable restrictions in place.

So bring on the chaos.

 

[clevenger32]

Just think none of this out-of-control crap would have ever happened the way it did if the NCAA and Greg Sankey as chair of the infractions committee had hammered North Carolina at Chapel Hill for academic fraud, winning championships with ineligible “student-athletes”, and “Wheels for Heels” and more ALL created by the Untouchable Dean E Smith.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Go ahead and sue. I hope the whole thing comes tumbling down. This is getting absurd. I hope fans just shut down. I won't pay to go. When are the AD's going to come out and fire the NCAA and set some reasonable rules. Let it go to court. Somehow it is legal for pro sports to regulate.

Pro sports do not regulate NIL opportunities. Contracts are regulated because there is a collective union in place. The courts are never again going to allow outside control of a persons individual right to their own NIL.

 

[UKnCincy]

Those poor lil agents just trying to help!

I wasn’t defending agents, so not sure what point you’re trying to make.

 

[Soupbean]

It seems like a microcosm of “why we can’t have nice things”.
I think that back in the day Ed O’Bannon had a point. A lot of people were making money off of his ( and many others’ image”, and it didn’t seem right that he wouldn’t get a slice.
NIL was supposed to allow players to get a slice of what they generate. It turned into “Pay me to come to your school” to “Pay me more than what other schools offer”.
I think agents and attorneys got a hold of this and screwed it all up.

I agree Fred but it was 1000% inevitable what the attorneys would do and it would end up this way from the start and eveyone knew that. Thats why the NCAA tried to hold on to its amateur model so long. They knew the kids deserved NIL too but also knew there was no middle ground to apply that because once free agency was opened up it there was not stopping it from going to the excess levels.

Where they messed up was years ago not loosening their rules to let stipends be paid to all athletes (the same for each) to help them through college. That would have at least held off the ineveitable a while longer but in time that too would have been overrun with full on free agency and we'd still end up where we are today, just would have bought some time.

The truth is there is no real way to have COLLEGE athletics where its about the colleges and STUDENT athletes the same time you have a professional model for it. One flies in the face of the other. Simple as that.

 

[catntn]

F the NCAA. What happened to wanting to play for your school. There is no amateurism in college sports. NCAA should grab their neck and pull it from their ass. JMO.

 

[G-PIP]

Pro sports do not regulate NIL opportunities. Contracts are regulated because there is a collective union in place. The courts are never again going to allow outside control of a persons individual right to their own NIL.

Good to see you posting. Hang in there.

 

[susan2361]

Yeah, it’s hard to make sense of that given that I assumed most of the total NIL budgets may not be 13M. Of course, in truth I don’t know what the NIL budgets are at any school. But I do wonder whether decisions like that quarterback are made based on the “value” the school places on that player in relation to their total NIL budget, or is it not based on relative value at all and instead just some super rich booster that wants his team to have that player and doesn’t care what the price tag is?

I agree. There are a lot of questions about NIL that may go unanswered unless it's answered in court.

 

[saxonburgcat]

Bowel games? 😳

Great! Now I have a way to describe what this antibiotic is doing to my body. I am have a bowel game!! LOL

 

[UK90]

F the NCAA. What happened to wanting to play for your school. There is no amateurism in college sports. NCAA should grab their neck and pull it from their ass. JMO.

Could you explain how this lawsuit is the NCAA’s fault?

I’m certainly no fan of the NCAA, but it seems like some people on this board just use those four letters as an all purpose scapegoat that they can blame everything on …regardless of whether it makes logical sense or not.