I don’t think this is all about money, I’d bet anything right now Kentucky will get their offer up enough so it doesn’t matter at this point.if IU is essentially offering him 3 million then I don’t see him turning that down
I don’t think this is all about money, I’d bet anything right now Kentucky will get their offer up enough so it doesn’t matter at this point.if IU is essentially offering him 3 million then I don’t see him turning that down
Well, I don't think that question is framed correctly for the present circumstances. I would be willing to bet that Kentucky has a larger NIL pool, especially given Indiana's situation right now with a new coach and being down for a while. But Kentucky has spent most of its money and has a loaded roster, whereas Indiana hasn't really spent anything. So the real question is whether Kentucky has enough NIL left to match a crazy Indiana offer given that Indiana may technically have more money "left." Of course, that could screw Indiana later. Also, there are optics to this too, in terms of not giving certain players on your team way more than others, so I am sure Pope is trying to walk that line.Nobody is asking the important question. How does IU NIL stack up against UK NIL + Clark's Pump n Shop Dollars?
Plus they have a lot of spots to fill, they have plenty of money no doubt but there aren’t enough impact guys left to make them a Big 10 contender in my honest opinion. They probably will go all out for a starting 5 but they need a bench too. They need at least 8 more players at this point.How they gonna pay the rest of their team?? Gonna fill with Walk ons?
They already paid Tucker and Reed Bailey too…doubt they was cheap.
ExactlyPlus they have a lot of spots to fill, they have plenty of money no doubt but there aren’t enough impact guys left to make them a Big 10 contender in my honest opinion. They probably will go all out for a starting 5 but they need a bench too. They need at least 8 more players at this point.
So nobody talks about it? Not even agents letting info slip to get offers? GTFOH.
They have to allocate the funds wisely…just can’t write blank checksIt’s not like there’s a salary cap and IU will end up putting together a formidable team with Wilkerson. They won’t be competing for a title but Wilkerson would be the star on that team. At uk he will be the 3rd or 4th best player on the roster. I can see it either way, same with the money. 1 million when the guy has made didly squat before is a ton of money. It pays the taxes on what’s left after he pays his agent. Idk how pressed for cash his family is but that’s not chump change
Careful there KA…..you’re trying to interject logic here. We can’t even have a whiff of that running amuck through this thread😉Think about the optics of this.
IU got the first visit. He left.
UK got the second visit. He stayed much longer.
He canceled his other visits.
Yesterday ended with UK being in the lead.
Now, it's closing the deal.
Of course it makes sense that Indiana offers the most money. They are in a much more dire situation. They have 4 players on their roster. Their team projects to suck. They can offer Wilkerson 20+ shots a game and 30+ minutes. He STILL kept UK in the fold, despite UK having a stacked roster.
Read between the lines.
He likes the UK situation better. For likely, many reasons, including Pope, location, etc, who knows what else.
Thus, it makes sense for Indiana to make it a "money or everything else" scenario because other than money, they have nothing else to offer.
I feel pretty good. I usually am not that confident, but it feels like the tea leaves are reading UK right now pretty solidly.I know nothing, but I’ve never truly felt confident we land him for a variety of reasons. Hope I’m wrong.
I hear ya. We missed out on alot of players in the 10’s. Wiggins to poindexter to Quincy miller etc etc etc, but all we can do is try and hammer it home.If this guy doesn't commit to UK, it would move close to the top of the list for recruits/transfers that we thought we had in the bag that committed elsewhere.
Well I know DeVries had a zoom call with notable ex players etc from IU. Said visits will ramp up. Had 6 visits already lined up with Wilkerson starting Friday. One thing that came out of that zoom was money won’t be a problem. IU has big donors but it’s the depth of donors that’s important here. IU will be allocating 6 million from the media profit share for men’s basketball. They already had 7 million in NIL before DeVries was hired. That lines up with the 12 million floating around. Not sure what UK has.Well, I don't think that question is framed correctly for the present circumstances. I would be willing to bet that Kentucky has a larger NIL pool, especially given Indiana's situation right now with a new coach and being down for a while. But Kentucky has spent most of its money and has a loaded roster, whereas Indiana hasn't really spent anything. So the real question is whether Kentucky has enough NIL left to match a crazy Indiana offer given that Indiana may technically have more money "left." Of course, that could screw Indiana later. Also, there are optics to this too, in terms of not giving certain players on your team way more than others, so I am sure Pope is trying to walk that line.
Isn’t Mark Cuban a huge IU donor?Well I know DeVries had a zoom call with notable ex players etc from IU. Said visits will ramp up. Had 6 visits already lined up with Wilkerson starting Friday. One thing that came out of that zoom was money won’t be a problem. IU has big donors but it’s the depth of donors that’s important here. IU will be allocating 6 million from the media profit share for men’s basketball. They already had 7 million in NIL before DeVries was hired. That lines up with the 12 million floating around. Not sure what UK has.
Well the profit share is not signed yet, so they will not be using any of that.Well I know DeVries had a zoom call with notable ex players etc from IU. Said visits will ramp up. Had 6 visits already lined up with Wilkerson starting Friday. One thing that came out of that zoom was money won’t be a problem. IU has big donors but it’s the depth of donors that’s important here. IU will be allocating 6 million from the media profit share for men’s basketball. They already had 7 million in NIL before DeVries was hired. That lines up with the 12 million floating around. Not sure what UK has.
Not really. Cook inc, is the big one. Cuban can’t as he still owns part of the mavericks. Good luck fellas. Now we wait. Sounds like everything is nailed down just needs to choose.Isn’t Mark Cuban a huge IU donor?
Yeah…that can only be good. Whole incoming team following him would typically mean they expect him to be a cat.
My initial questions about how much us and Indiana were offering was in response to you spouting rumors as fact. Only when I asked how much did you say nobody knows.WTF are you talking about? I clearly said nobody knows and what the rumors are. Get help for your anger issues weirdo
Daffy and Cody you both are on deck...............
In today's recruiting world I am not confident until a player commits/signs. I agree itI feel pretty good. I usually am not that confident, but it feels like the tea leaves are reading UK right now pretty solidly.
Who says they are paying Tucker much, if even at all? They paid his dad, which comes out of a different budget. They could have just added Tucker’s salary in with his dad’s and then dad gives it to Tucker. He shouldn’t cost them anything out of their NIL budget, if they were smart about it.They also have to field a team …no way they are offering him 3 mill plus paying Tucker and Bailey. They prolly got 1.5-2 mill a piece …IU pockets aren’t that deep imo
Yes. Yes they are.They also have to field a team …no way they are offering him 3 mill plus paying Tucker and Bailey. They prolly got 1.5-2 mill a piece …IU pockets aren’t that deep imo
In his/my defense we both said “Rumors”. I don’t know if it’s a compression problem or what.My initial questions about how much us and Indiana were offering was in response to you spouting rumors as fact. Only when I asked how much did you say nobody knows.
I'm not angry, but you are a Dukey.
Im pretty sure that’s illegalWho says they are paying Tucker much, if even at all? They paid his dad, which comes out of a different budget. They could have just added Tucker’s salary in with his dad’s and then dad gives it to Tucker. He shouldn’t cost them anything out of their NIL budget, if they were smart about it.
LOL, you can't be serious. This is not like a dad giving his 15 year old an allowance. Contracts and what not. If he plays for free, I kinda think that would maybe draw a few red flags, or even a highly discounted rate would. Come on man .Who says they are paying Tucker much, if even at all? They paid his dad, which comes out of a different budget. They could have just added Tucker’s salary in with his dad’s and then dad gives it to Tucker. He shouldn’t cost them anything out of their NIL budget, if they were smart about it.
"Compression" Seems like it's a spelling problem.In his/my defense we both said “Rumors”. I don’t know if it’s a compression problem or what.
Then why didn’t they buy better talent last year ?Yes. Yes they are.
IU may not be relevant or good but they have a top 2 alumni base(depending on year) with lots of billionaires. My family(sibling married up) is one of them. IU has a bad credit score. They are going to have to buy points to get guys. Just the way it is.NIL shouldn’t ever be an issue with Kentucky nor Indiana basketball, considering the fanbases and conferences. Probably both Top 5-10.
No it’s an editing problem. Sorry I made a mistake."Compression" Seems like it's a spelling problem.
Talent wasn’t the problem. Roster construction and a bad coach was. Two top 15 portal guards and the #1 big isn’t talent?Then why didn’t they buy better talent last year ?
Yeah that’s not what’s happening. Tucker is getting NIL. Not sure how much. Sorry. I’m getting spammy. See y’all later.Im pretty sure that’s illegal
Agreed, people seem to forget we hung around T5-T10 for a good chunk of the season up until the injury bus rolled into town. Praying for a healthy season next year because we’ve seen what pope can do when he has a full lineup.Talent wasn’t the problem. Roster construction and a bad coach was. Two top 15 portal guards and the #1 big isn’t talent?
BWO you been doing such a bangup job being mostly the emcee for this one.