Labissiere drops in latest NBA mock draft for 2016
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Yep, but when you fall you can also rise. I think it will happen for Skal. He has too much upside and too many people pulling for him and also working with him. I think it will click for him. He doesn't have to be a bruiser to be effective in side. Once he figures it out he will be okay. I am betting it is this season too.
WOW!!!! Draft Express still have 6 of our guys getting drafted. That is amazing and just goes to show how Cal finds and develops talent.
5: Skal
7: Murray
22: Briscoe
42: Ulis
44: Lee
85: Poy
If Cal can get those 6 drafted will should get to a Final Four pretty easily.
5: Skal
7: Murray
22: Briscoe
42: Ulis
44: Lee
85: Poy
If Cal can get those 6 drafted will should get to a Final Four pretty easily.
I'm not sure what I was thinking lol. Still, that would be 5 guys drafted and that would be amazing!!!!
Give it a few minutes for the guy who says "If Skal is #5 then I am in the top 10"
As a crazed UK fan, watching Skal is infuriating because you want the light to go on with him so badly and for him to "wake up" to his potential. As the father of two children, you feel so badly for the kid because he just looks shell shocked by the whole experience he is going through. A poor kid from Haiti suddenly finding himself in the hard core---"dog eat dog" world of major college basketball. I just hope he figures it out before his golden ticket to the NBA is shredded.
Other than Murray, I just don't see anything other than a future in Europe or the D league for any of them. Too many glaring weaknesses (size, strength, shooting, consistency, etc.) with the supporting cast.
But then again, I don't make my living evaluating NBA talent and it will make me truly happy if I am wrong.
Other than Murray, I just don't see anything other than a future in Europe or the D league for any of them. Too many glaring weaknesses (size, strength, shooting, consistency, etc.) with the supporting cast.
But then again, I don't make my living evaluating NBA talent and it will make me truly happy if I am wrong.
Do these mock drafts just look at high school rankings when putting these list together? There is no way Briscoe will sniff the first round and probably not the 2nd either. Is there a team out there clamoring for a guard that can't shoot? I mean cannot shoot at all. Big men can get bigger and develop, ala Skal, but a guard if he can't shoot now likely will never be able to shoot. Verdict is still out on Skal too but #5 at this stage-not a chance.
Shooting is the most teachable skill there is, everyone improves their shooting at the next level. He will never be Steph Curry, but can certainly be a respectable shooer.
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Archie Goodwin shot 26% from three in his one year here and got drafted first round. Briscoe is better than Goodwin at most aspects of the game. Briscoe will be a 1st round pick.
Was not a big fan of AG and I am a fan of briscoes but Goodwin is a better shooter than briscoe.
As far as teaching a guard to shoot, is this what the NBA has now become? What's next the NFL teaching running backs how to run the football?
You can improve a guys stroke to make him a more deadly shooter but if a guy can't come close to hitting a normal jump shot at this stage it ain't happening. His free throw shooting makes Shaq look like Kyle Macy.
I think people have mentally inflated Goodwin's shooting ability since he left. He had a stretch of games that lasted over a month and a half when he went 1/23 from three. He's shot horribly as a pro as well - 19/89 career (21.3%).
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Very weak draft but I still think Skal drops to the late lottery. Briscoe is just hard to predict, incredible strength and finisher but the league is shooting more 3s every year and he is the worst guard shooter to come out in a while.
I suppose it's good that I'm not a GM because -- other than Murray -- I don't see a lottery pick on our team. I can see Skal going around #20 but no one else.
Of course, I also said (before the 2012 season started) that Cal would never start Gilchrist over Darius Miller. So I ain't too bright when it comes to these things...
Of course, I also said (before the 2012 season started) that Cal would never start Gilchrist over Darius Miller. So I ain't too bright when it comes to these things...
Skal is going to continue to drop as long as the NBA sees what they're seeing. This is not a situation where he's "got it" but hasn't come out. I said last week his stock will start to dive. I'm suprised he isn't outside the top ten yet. He's 3 to 4 years minimum from even being able to step on an NBA floor to contribute anything. And that's if he really comes on.
I know I sound like his detractor, but I'm not. I'm just stating the reality as I see it. Skal is a developing big with upside, should have been around 40-50ish 4 star and 2 to 3 year player. There's nothing wrong with that but we've still got fans that refuse to get it.
Understandable however as cal hasn't missed that way before.
I know I sound like his detractor, but I'm not. I'm just stating the reality as I see it. Skal is a developing big with upside, should have been around 40-50ish 4 star and 2 to 3 year player. There's nothing wrong with that but we've still got fans that refuse to get it.
Understandable however as cal hasn't missed that way before.
Although I wouldn't bet on it (emphasized for those of you who ignore qualified statements), I wouldn't be shocked if Skal looks at Cal in April and says, "I want to come back."
And you guys can spare me the rebuttal that it's an impossibility to even consider this. Terrence and Willie both returned when they were sure-fire top 20 picks. Sometimes a kid isn't emotionally ready for the jump.
And you guys can spare me the rebuttal that it's an impossibility to even consider this. Terrence and Willie both returned when they were sure-fire top 20 picks. Sometimes a kid isn't emotionally ready for the jump.
The mock drafts are basing more on Cal's reputation as a talent developer (and Skal's potential) than they are in terms of Skal actually meeting any standard of expectation. The reality is that Skal hasn't met any of them.
I can say almost certainly that Skal will not be back at UK. NBA will let him play as a stretch 4 facing the basket. He wont be double teamed and they will work on adding muscle and strength. He may never be a stud college player. Or, even the guy we all yearn to see. But, someone in the NBA will take on the challenge of molding the guy into the player he can be (with his unique skill set) and likely be paid huge dividends.
Has Cal ever had a projected lottery pick return? I would be shocked if that changes after this season is over.
Skal will be drafted on potential, but his stock will continue to slide if he fails to learn how to play through contact. The GM that takes him in the top 5 at this point would lose their job. The jury is still out on whether Skal can even grab 5 rebounds/game for an NBA team.
I think he has too many people counting on him to put off a year.
Only Camby back in 1995. That said, Skal might not be in the lottery when this thing is all said and done (slim chance of that happening, as I think Skal will make some serious strides over the next 90 days). Worse case, someone will still take him in the top 20, but the burden of proving he's even a viable high level prospect at this point is completely on him.
I bet most GMs are wondering that if they draft Skal, does he have the frame to put on significant muscle over the first year so that by the second year he's getting the rebounds a 7 footer should. Either that, or can this kid be the next Dirk?
I shade in that direction as well. That said, those same people got out of his way long enough to allow him to choose UK over the foreign route, a route that would have led to instant cash.
You just never know. Skal didn't really play competitive ball in 2014-2015. So we're seeing the basketball hangover right now. He'll likely "sober-up" by March and find himself safely in the lottery.
I remember that. Says a lot about how the mock drafts are largely useless until later in the season when the smoke has cleared and NBA guys actually can see what they're getting.
I think Cal is lining up Simmons to replace Briscoe if he makes the jump, and Bolden or Allen to replace Skal if he leaves.
Cal was pointedly asked if he was done with recruiting a month ago and he said, "I don't know." I'm certain UK isn't done if Briscoe or Skal leave. Cal knows he has a real shot next year at the title, and the spring will act as a period of adding supplemental pieces to an already-loaded squad. Another shooter and or creator would be nice to go along with another real physical big (Bolden) to put next to Bam.
Their rankings are a bit wonky. Buddy Hield is probably a lottery pick and they have him at #43, and no Dwayne Bacon even though he's likely to declare this season.
I would like to see Cal try Skal at the 4 or 3 for a while just see how he handles that but maybe he should of tried that early in the season. With the SEC schedule coming up it might be to late for that. JMO
Not exactly accurate. If a guy has something wrong with his form you can improve him quite a bit. MKG has had to work really hard on changing his form, but it was starting to really show progress last year. Tough injury for him because he was set to break out as his shot was coming together nicely. And yes, I think Briscoe has some significant form flaws that when corrected will improve his shooting quite a bit. He'll never be a pure shooter, but he can get to where it's not a huge detriment.
Probably. But I remember that exact same quote (from other posters) regarding Jones, WCS, the twins, Poythress, etc.
The odds are he leaves, but it's not a definite at this point.
Maybe at the 4 spot a bit alongside Lee or Humphries. The problem with both of those guys is that the opposing team can cheat off both of them because they're not true scoring threats. Johnson, for all the criticism he's taken, was at least capable of a move or two on the low block. He would have been an adequate supplement to what Skal can do.
Right now, Humphries is too raw and Lee is almost entirely incapable of a consistent low post scoring off of anything other than lobs and offensive putbacks. That and the fact that Skal seems unable to be able to put the ball on the floor without getting it stripped at a high rate.
I agree but maybe put Alex at the 5 for a game and Skal at the 4. would be interesting .
And I'm willing to bet a sophomore Skal is a much improved version.
If Hamilton wasn't involved I'd say it could happen.The only way I see it happening is if he falls off the board which is likely to happen I guess.
