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Kyle Tucker's CJ Fredrick article

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Gives a history of CJ's injuries (including specific details that were never made public before).


Sorry it's behind a paywall. Here are a few nuggets:

He took a charge and cracked a rib during his redshirt year at Iowa. He played his whole redshirt freshman season for the Hawkeyes on a bum ankle, then found out he had a Jones fracture in his right foot that required offseason surgery. He battled plantar fasciitis — ligament inflammation that causes an unrelenting, stabbing sensation — in his left foot throughout his redshirt sophomore season, which meant he rarely practiced and had to sit out four games.

Then something wonderful happened after he transferred home to Kentucky last summer. Fredrick briefly experienced relief. For a few glorious weeks, nothing hurt. He started shedding extra weight and getting back into shape and imagining what it would be like to play at Rupp again, this time for the home team. But shortly after his 22nd birthday, in the middle of July, he noticed a small bump on his left shin. It ached a little, but after all he’d been through it didn’t seem like much. Just to be sure, Fredrick mentioned it to the team trainer. Just to be safe, the trainer ordered an X-ray. You’ll never guess what happened next.

Stress fracture. Surgery required. Fredrick needed a metal rod in his leg and about four months to recover.

“That was really frustrating, because I was just starting to get my body right and figure out what my role was going to be on the team, and I came in wanting to really hit the ground and show what I could do,” Fredrick says. “That’s one of those injuries that you can take the risk and not do anything with it, but then, remember what happened to Kevin Ware? (In a gruesome scene, the former Louisville guard snapped his leg during a 2013 NCAA Tournament game.) That’s what can happen. So when the doctor said that, it was a no-brainer to get the surgery. And I’ve had no problems with it since.”

He was a man on a mission in rehab, hell-bent on getting back before the Wildcats’ season started. And he succeeded. He won the 3-point shooting contest at Big Blue Madness and was cleared for a full return to practice about a month before the Champions Classic opener against Duke at MSG. His first day back, though, Fredrick felt a tug in his left hamstring. He tried to shake it off, until he couldn’t. Defending teammate Kellan Grady, Fredrick planted his left leg to change directions and crumpled to the court. It was only a minor strain, but that meant he was shut down for three more weeks. One last clearance came in the days before Kentucky traveled to New York.

On the eve of that first game, Fredrick had barely practiced, but he felt good, and his stroke looked great, and coach John Calipari told him, “Hey, if I need you, be ready.” In the tunnel pregame, adrenaline kicked in. Fredrick sprung up off the floor at the Garden and dunked with ease his first time through the layup line. No problem, no pain.

“The second time, though, I knew it was bad,” Fredrick says. “I went up to dunk again and felt everything in my leg rip. It immediately started to burn. I kind of hung on the rim for a minute, because I was scared to get down.”

When he eventually landed and hobbled to the bench, however, he made a bold choice. He kept his latest injury to himself, not realizing — or maybe just not accepting — how severe it was. As the game wore on, the Blue Devils pulled ahead and Kentucky struggled to make an outside shot, Calipari began pacing the sideline and scanning his bench for answers.

“I was thinking, ‘Please don’t put me in. Please don’t put me in,’” Fredrick says. “I would’ve just collapsed if he had. Every timeout, I could barely get up and walk.”

Still, he didn’t tell anyone what happened. He prayed that this was just a tweak, that this latest injury felt worse than it really was. But by the time the team plane landed back in Lexington, around 2 a.m., Fredrick’s left thigh had swollen so much it was nearly double in size. The back of his leg was black and blue. Even then, he didn’t alert Kentucky’s training staff or the coaches. He tried instead to go to bed.

“I was laying there with some of the worst pain I’ve ever had,” he says. “My leg was throbbing. I woke up Kellan (Grady), my roommate, and said, ‘Bro, you gotta take me to the hospital, because this is terrible.’ I didn’t want to call our trainer, Geoff (Staton), at that point, because I didn’t think he’d be awake. God love Geoff, though, he came over at like 6 a.m. on basically no sleep and told the hospital, ‘We’ll take it from here.’ When the team doctor got there, he examined me, and I could tell on his face something was not right. I said, ‘Be honest. Is it bad?’ He said, ‘Yeah, it’s pretty bad.’”

Fredrick’s left hamstring had completely snapped on that second pregame dunk attempt at Madison Square Garden, the muscle pulling away from the bone and recoiling all the way back up to his buttocks. A surgeon had to retrieve it, unroll it and reattach it. Post-op, Fredrick was fitted for a brace that locked his left leg in place from ankle to hip. For the two months he wore it — the first month, even when he slept — he couldn’t bend that leg an inch. That was miserable, but folks around Fredrick worried more about the mental toll. How would he handle yet another injury disrupting his basketball career?

“When I had the first surgery on my leg, I was asking, ‘Why me? I do everything right, work so hard, love basketball. I don’t understand why this is happening to me,’” Fredrick says. “But it’s weird, when the hamstring injury happened, my mindset just totally changed. I called my parents, and we cried over the phone for a little bit, then I told them when I hung up, ‘There’s no more crying, no more negativity. From this point forward, I’m going to be positive.’ I told my teammates what happened and hugged Coach Cal and told him I was sorry, because I felt like I could really help the team. But I also told them, ‘I promise you I’m going to help you win games next year.’ After that injury, I would not let anyone be negative with me, told people I did not want, ‘I feel bad for you,’ none of that. Something just clicked in my head: I’m going to turn this into a positive.”

The article goes on to describe his girlfriend's (Blair Green, #5 from the women's team) torn achilles and how they pushed each other to work hard and recover from their surgeries.

Good article.
 
Gotta end on a positive note:

Fredrick cut out all soft drinks and chugged at least a gallon of water each day. He cut out fried food, and for 3 1/2 months ate a strict diet that was heavy on chicken, rice and vegetables. He worked out twice a day, lifting heavy with his upper body and doing the maximum he was allowed with his lower body. He graduated from an elliptical machine to flat-road walks around campus to 45-minute treadmill walks on an incline to light jogging and on-court workouts. He shed about 25 pounds, from 205 to 180. He got his body fat percentage down from 20 to 10. Kentucky’s former strength coach posted impressive before-and-after photos, in which Fredrick has transformed from doughy to chiseled.

Getting to this point has taken a major commitment. Fredrick stayed on campus when the rest of the team went home for a few weeks this spring. He spends about five hours a day on his body now: strength training and explosive movements at the rehab clinic, then hip mobility exercises and treatment with UK’s trainer, then weight lifting, then a lengthy stretching routine, then on-court drills, then more treatment and a soak in the cold tub. He’s recently done box jumps, 100-yard sprints and dribble pull-ups, bounding off that left leg (he’s a left-legged leaper) with no pain or tightness. He will use a five-week ramp-up process to be full go when the team begins practicing for its preseason Bahamas exhibition trip in early August.

“It all feels fine,” Fredrick says, “which is really encouraging. In fact, my left leg is a little stronger than my right now.”

So how’s that shot looking these days?

“I haven’t lost it,” Fredrick says.

“He don’t miss,” Green confirms. They have regular shooting competitions and, she says, “I’m telling you, that boy don’t miss.”

Point guard Sahvir Wheeler said last week during a youth basketball camp that Fredrick is “an elite, elite, elite, elite shooter.” But Fredrick wants Kentucky fans to know he’s so much more than that.

“They’re getting someone who will play with a ton of energy, who loves the game so much that when I play, I forget everything and get caught up in the moment and maybe I say or do things I shouldn’t, but that’s just because I’m so competitive,” he says. “I play with a lot of swag — maybe sometimes a little too much and people don’t like it — but that’s just who I am. I have that dog mentality. When I was in high school, my uncle who played at Notre Dame said, ‘I’ll be real honest with you: If you want to make it at the college level, you’re going to have to do something besides make shots to stand out. That might mean you have to play with a little edge.’ Ever since then, that’s kind of been my thing. I play with a lot of heart.”

Maybe that’s how he ended up hanging from a rim last November in New York, wondering how he was going to get down. He’s always wanted to play so badly that he never gave his body a chance to truly recover. This time, Fredrick had no choice. Ripping a hamstring clean off the bone has a way of forcing you to press pause. He’s finally, fully healthy, and a Kentucky team with national championship aspirations is hopeful that he’s ready to get through a basketball season without injury for the first time in five years. Considering they don’t have another sharpshooter on the roster, you could say Calipari and the Cats are betting on it.
 
Let’s hope the injuries are behind him. Knowing his history we can’t expect him for a full season, but we can hope for it. Some guys are just injury prone. That hamstring injury sounded awful. And it was complete non contact, layup line dunk.
 
Well he may have a glass body but

Frankly that doesn’t mean ish to me compared to that other little detail in this article:

He was cleared for the Duke game and Cal didn’t know he was injured and Cal didn’t even want to try playing him?

If it’s true Cal thought he was healthy—which CJ sells pretty well—then that can only mean one of two things:

1–Cal is just so stubbornly dedicated to whatever he happens to be thinking at the beginning of a night that he’s just never gonna make any worthwhile in-game decisions and we just can’t win six games in March/April that way. Can’t be done without Anthony Davis.

or

2–Despite all the hype we heard over the summer about his defense being the real surprise of the summer and not even too far off elite, kid must hardly be able to play at all.

We got humiliated in that Duke game wire to wire. Zero reason not to give a kid a look-see once that game got going.

I sure hope CJ was embellishing or just not realizing that Cal already knew he was hurt bad. Because the only other possibilities are even worse than him being injury prone.
 
Well he may have a glass body but

Frankly that doesn’t mean ish to me compared to that other little detail in this article:

He was cleared for the Duke game and Cal didn’t know he was injured and Cal didn’t even want to try playing him?

If it’s true Cal thought he was healthy—which CJ sells pretty well—then that can only mean one of two things:

1–Cal is just so stubbornly dedicated to whatever he happens to be thinking at the beginning of a night that he’s just never gonna make any worthwhile in-game decisions and we just can’t win six games in March/April that way. Can’t be done without Anthony Davis.

or

2–Despite all the hype we heard over the summer about his defense being the real surprise of the summer and not even too far off elite, kid must hardly be able to play at all.

We got humiliated in that Duke game wire to wire. Zero reason not to give a kid a look-see once that game got going.

I sure hope CJ was embellishing or just not realizing that Cal already knew he was hurt bad. Because the only other possibilities are even worse than him being injury prone.
That was the exact question in my mind when reading that. Cal would loose a game and not try a 46% 3 pt. Shooter? Somehow I would not be shocked. This is why many cannot get too excited by a potentially real good team but coached by Cal.
 
That was the exact question in my mind when reading that. Cal would loose a game and not try a 46% 3 pt. Shooter? Somehow I would not be shocked. This is why many cannot get too excited by a potentially real good team but coached by Cal.
Lose**

Sorry, really big pet peeve of mine.

and I agree with you two, it’s almost like Cal hates shot makers. He doesn’t mind shooters apparently, as long as they miss for some odd reason.
 
I would love nothing more for him to bounce back and have a big season. I have very little doubt that when healthy he would be a huge difference maker.

I just don’t know how you could read all that and come away thinking he’s someone you can depend on going into the season. He’s the guy who becomes a great coach because his body never allowed him to play the game.
 
We got humiliated in that Duke game wire to wire. Zero reason not to give a kid a look-see once that game got going.

I sure hope CJ was embellishing or just not realizing that Cal already knew he was hurt bad. Because the only other possibilities are even worse than him being injury prone.

Humiliated? We lost by 4 in both halves. We got humiliated in 2018.
 
My biggest worry is that Cal didn't know he was injured and still didn't play him. We are counting on a kid that Cal wouldn't sub into the game in a loss that we never really had a chance of winning..
 
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My biggest worry is that Cal didn't know he was injured and still didn't play him. We are counting on a kid that Cal wouldn't sub into the game in a loss that we never really had a chance of winning..
Never had a chance? I think some of you are mistaking this game with the Zion game. We could have easily won this past Duke game if we hit shots.
 
It still did not feel close. We were behind by 10 it seemed like the whole game. Duke was never threatened in that game.

It may of felt that way but that wasn't the case.

We lost so it doesn't really matter but it was mostly a one to two possession game the entire first half. Duke bumped it to 7 late in first half and we answered....trailed by 4 at half.

We actually took the lead in second half between 15-17 minute mark and it was back and forth. Duke went on a 20-6 run over 5 minutes and even though we answered with a big run it wasn't enough.

Keels killed us and that was difference in the game.
 
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Cal doesn't play to win games...at least not all of them. He's said that himself before. Why should it surprise us?
 
Well he may have a glass body but

Frankly that doesn’t mean ish to me compared to that other little detail in this article:

He was cleared for the Duke game and Cal didn’t know he was injured and Cal didn’t even want to try playing him?

If it’s true Cal thought he was healthy—which CJ sells pretty well—then that can only mean one of two things:

1–Cal is just so stubbornly dedicated to whatever he happens to be thinking at the beginning of a night that he’s just never gonna make any worthwhile in-game decisions and we just can’t win six games in March/April that way. Can’t be done without Anthony Davis.

or

2–Despite all the hype we heard over the summer about his defense being the real surprise of the summer and not even too far off elite, kid must hardly be able to play at all.

We got humiliated in that Duke game wire to wire. Zero reason not to give a kid a look-see once that game got going.

I sure hope CJ was embellishing or just not realizing that Cal already knew he was hurt bad. Because the only other possibilities are even worse than him being injury prone.
It's certainly possible that Cal or other coaching staff saw CJ limping around, but even if not I don't think you can read anything into his not getting into the game.

CJ was cleared for the Duke game but had barely practiced with the team since his original summer surgery. I remember, and it was mentioned in the article, that he was just cleared for full-speed full-contact scrimmaging with the team a few weeks before the Duke game, and he had the setback with the small tweak to his hamstring (which I'm guessing might gave been a small tear that later resulted in the full tear) that put him out another 3 weeks. Even if he didn't realize CJ had hurt himself in warmups, he may have been being extra cautious about putting him in so soon after just getting the go-ahead following months of recovering from surgery. I don't see anything wrong with taking caution in that regard. I remember at the time it seemed highly unlikely that CJ would get in the game after barely being back to practicing.

And he may have also thought CJ wasn't ready to be put into a game situation when he had barely practiced with the team - he literally had practiced a grand total of like a week or two.

I've stated a few times before on Rafters that CJ weighed 165 as a HS senior. In his redshirt year, he got in the weight room and got up to 195. That's a huge amount of weight to gain in a year, and in a high-impact game like basketball where your feet, ankles, knees, shins, and hips take a lot of pounding, it's certainly understandable that you could run into stress-related issues. It doesn't take long to gain a bunch of weight, but it does take long for bones, ligaments, and tendons to strengthen enough to carry that extra weight.

We know that all of CJ's past issues were stress-related. It's pretty obvious to me that the hamstring issue resulted from trying to come back too fast after having his left leg immobilized for a long time after surgery. That hamstring had to have tightened up a lot and also gotten weak.

Now that he's lost so much of that gained weight I'm hoping his stress-related issues are behind him, and this whole "ramp-up" plan prevents new issues related to rushing his recovery.
 
As this article makes clear, it isn’t so much that he has been injury prone as it is that his injuries weren’t properly dealt with.

No more reason to think he’ll be injured again than any other player - statistically a small chance.
Got your Cal talking points emailed to you this morning I see
 
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Well he may have a glass body but

Frankly that doesn’t mean ish to me compared to that other little detail in this article:

He was cleared for the Duke game and Cal didn’t know he was injured and Cal didn’t even want to try playing him?

If it’s true Cal thought he was healthy—which CJ sells pretty well—then that can only mean one of two things:

1–Cal is just so stubbornly dedicated to whatever he happens to be thinking at the beginning of a night that he’s just never gonna make any worthwhile in-game decisions and we just can’t win six games in March/April that way. Can’t be done without Anthony Davis.

or

2–Despite all the hype we heard over the summer about his defense being the real surprise of the summer and not even too far off elite, kid must hardly be able to play at all.

We got humiliated in that Duke game wire to wire. Zero reason not to give a kid a look-see once that game got going.

I sure hope CJ was embellishing or just not realizing that Cal already knew he was hurt bad. Because the only other possibilities are even worse than him being injury prone.

You're forgetting one thing - this is Cal/Tucker propaganda. It's likely some or none of that happened or was embellished after the fact.
 
I really hope he can stay healthy as elite shooting is so incredibly valuable. Any time we’re talking this high of a percentage I think of Lee Humphrey from those Florida teams and how important he was even without ever scoring 11 PPG.
 
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It may of felt that way but that wasn't the case.

We lost so it doesn't really matter but it was mostly a one to two possession game the entire first half. Duke bumped it to 7 late in first half and we answered....trailed by 4 at half.

We actually took the lead in second half between 15-17 minute mark and it was back and forth. Duke went on a 20-6 run over 5 minutes and that was the difference in the game.

Keels killed us and that was difference in the game.

Yeah, I have forgotten much about last season due to how it ended, but I do recall UK was up early in the 2nd half.

That is interesting that if CJ was cleared why he didn't play any. We did have a dominant/deep guard team at that point on paper though. If healthy he probably would not have played as much as some on here think he would have last year, until we ran out of guards in February.. Then Cal would have had to play him 15-20 a game and that may have saved us in March IMO.
 
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Re-attach a hamstring and recover to do normal things without any issue (e.g., walking, jogging, stairs, etc.), fine. But engage in the kind of stress on the hamstring involved with Div. I basketball? I don't know. I'm hopeful, but also skeptical. Anybody got examples of a basketball player recovering from this and being able to play at the same level as before injury - or even play at all? Reading about those examples would definitely make me feel better about this.
 
The one that bothers me most is the plantar fasciatis, because isn't that something that often returns?

And WOW, he was 22 last July, so will be 23 this July, and still just a JR eligibility wise? When I turned 23, I had just (couple weeks earlier) started my 2nd year of graduate school.
 
It may of felt that way but that wasn't the case.

We lost so it doesn't really matter but it was mostly a one to two possession game the entire first half. Duke bumped it to 7 late in first half and we answered....trailed by 4 at half.

We actually took the lead in second half between 15-17 minute mark and it was back and forth. Duke went on a 20-6 run over 5 minutes and that was the difference in the game.

Keels killed us and that was difference in the game.
I think it also helped that Banchero was out a good portion of the 2nd half if I’m not mistaken. And we still couldn’t capitalize. That was very frustrating. Tyty gave us nothing that game and the talent and coaching gap was just too much to overcome.
 
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