Right, if we had a Coach instead of a recruiter we would be fine.
Ky always missing one player.
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Right, if we had a Coach instead of a recruiter we would be fine.
You pay a membership fee to trash Kentucky's HOF Coach? That's dedication.
No I'm a Cats fan first not a players first like Cal. back in the day when players like Givens and Robey to name a few was players here it was about the front of the jersey not trying to get to the NBA first.
UK has won like 4 titles in 60 years dude. Your good ole days of 48-58 are never coming back buddy. Get with the modern era.
Yet Cal's players have won at a higher level than those guys overall.
You have no understanding of what "trashing" a person is. Ever thought for a second that maybe the recruits we've lost, or players that decided to not come back, considered Cal's track record in the NCAA Tournament? Regardless of how Duke has won two titles in the past decade, they did. There isn't a knowledgeable basketball fan on the planet that would place Cal's ability to coach over his ability to recruit.
And Duke has won 2 titles in the past decade. I don't like it, but those are facts.
Nick Richards and SKJ said to tell the OP they disagree we are one man short for missing out on Bamba.
What I notice is some of our fans want to compare our roster against some ideal version of what we could have had, rather than compare our team against other teams in 2017-18. We have no chance because we didn't get Bamba......which apparently is shorthand for we're not as good without him as we would've been with him, ergo, no chance at a title.
All irrelevant. What matters more is chemistry, development, how many other good to great teams are out there in a given year - and most important of all, who do we face in the tournament. Luck plays a big part. We get Bamba and face murderers row......vs no Bamba but an easier trip, the second will produce a better outcome.
All irrelevant. What matters more is chemistry, development, how many other good to great teams are out there in a given year - and most important of all, who do we face in the tournament. Luck plays a big part. We get Bamba and face murderers row......vs no Bamba but an easier trip, the second will produce a better outcome.
Lol, no. I have never thought for one second that the recruits we lost or players who didn't return factored in Cal's record in the NCAA tournament.
Except to say, "Kentucky does really well in the NCAA tournament. Competing for a Title would be one good reason to go there (or return)."
Tell me something, do you have to wear the big shoes, and the red nose, and honk the horn? I don't understand all the rules.
I do agree that our team the last 2 seasons have been one player short and that is the elite shot blocker that we have previously had. Cal's defense has always been predicated on having that mistake eraser that guarded the rim. And it looks like this year's team may have the same problem unless Nick Richards can fill that role.
If not, then hopefully Cal will make some changes defensively to compensate for this. I think we'll be longer and more athletic next year especially if Diallo comes back so we can be a great defensive team.
If not, then hopefully Cal will make some changes defensively to compensate for this. I think we'll be longer and more athletic next year especially if Diallo comes back so we can be a great defensive team.
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It is not all or nothing. Everyone wants titles but it is also not fair to say a season is a bust if you dont win one. Last season was disappointing but losing on a buzzer beat to the eventual champ is not a disgrace.
Your partly right, but two other teams have gone farther then UK in the Tournament, and three have gone just as far, with LESS talent, as per the drafting by the NBA. I really don't "Give a $hit" about how many first round players we have drafted after one year. I just want to see UK hang No. 9.
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The only reason it does is because people play this irrational game of "if if if." I will give give some credit. If Poythress doesn't go down in '15 we likely win it all. However, WCS was a no show in the Final Four in '15 so who knows what his impact would of been in '14. All teams can plays this game. Maybe we don't win it all in '12 if UNC's PG doesn't get hurt. Went down to the wire in Dec with them and while I think UK was the best team that year, stuff happens.
For fans like the OP, the reason they bemoan for titles is because the players are only here for 1 year. How dare they go and live their professional dream without giving me something in return. That's why no one bemoans about the '12 team. 8 titles in 100 something years of basketball ought to tell you if the players are here 1 or 4 years, to win a title with 64 other teams takes a little bit luck, a lot of talent, and everything just falling into place. But fans like the OP feel cheated at the end of the year. Monk, Fox, and Bam get to live their lives and make millions but OP doesn't get his title. That's not fair in his world. They feel like it's fine to go pro after you win a title. Fox should risk injury and millions of dollars so the OP can get his championship t-shirt. You want one of those so bad, go cheer for the title winner each April. That way you always get a t-shirt.
Just from an outsider's perspective, since Cal has been there, only the 2013 squad was not talented enough to win it all. Every other year y'all have talent stacked up like cordwood for the most part. The tournament is a hard thing to win, even with recruiting classes as good as y'all have had them.
We had talent in 2016, but we didn't have anyone on the interior with the mental makeup to legitimately compete for the title.
Otherwise, I agree with you.
I have been a UK Lifetime Member since 1974, and graduated in 1962. There is no bigger fan then my wife and I. My two children graduated from UK, my only granddaughter, just graduated from UK, 2017, and my two grandsons just completed their first year at UK, taking pre- med courses with all A's.
I don't have any immature sense of entitlement, but I also don't make excuses when we don't get the job done. When we have the No. 1 recruiting class 8 years in a row, I, and a lot of other UK fans expect more then one Championship.
Take the time to read, SUCCESS IS THE ONLY OPTION, and you will see where I'm coming from. Cal himself says, "Nothing is more important to me than helping my players reach their individual goals, which is the NBA. It is the basis of my "players first" philosophy.
I think all UK fans love the successful seasons, but the majority of the UK fans believe that UK should come before the NBA with Coach Cal.
Take the time to read page 63 and 64. It's all about him sending 41 players to the NBA, including 28 in just seven seasons at UK, of which 4 have been the No. 1 pick. In 2010 Kentucky became the first program to have five players chosen in the First Round, and in 2012 we became the first school to have two players selected with the first two picks.
I would like to hear more praise about UK, instead of all the players going to the NBA.
Do you really think Coach Cal could have the same recruiting success at another school? I don't, and he didn't prior to coming here.
No, I'm not a Cal hater, just a UK lover, and I would like to see No. 9 hung. Maybe this year, we'll see, or we will have the excuses again.
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