Kentucky now with most Quad 1 wins
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It won’t. We are either the top 2 seed or we slip to a 3 depending on tourney performance.
Dumb Question: I imagine these move around as teams go in and out of the NET rankings?
Also, does anyone have that ASCII-style page that shows every teams Quadrant wins? That Gonzaga fan started a thread with it.
Also, does anyone have that ASCII-style page that shows every teams Quadrant wins? That Gonzaga fan started a thread with it.
ZERO chance UK is a 3 seed.
Quad wins will be cited as a factor for why the committee seeded team A higher than expected, but ignored when asked why UK is seeded lower than expected. Rinse, repeat...until the end of time.
I think it's the data point that will be used most when arguing whether UK is a 1 seed or not in the committee room.
A 3 seed is a literal impossibility, even if we lose our next 2 games. We are most likely somewhere between #3-#6 on the S-curve regardless of how we close the season.
I think the best case scenario at this point is duke and UNC get the other 1 seeds and we pass both of them for the south. We need duke to lose 2 more games, UNC to lose early in the ACC tourney, and UK to win out.
It would also help us tremendously if Kansas wins out. That would give us another tier A quad 1 win. Auburn needs to win up until the sec finals as well. That would likely push them up to tier A. Our sec tourney path would need to be miss st, tenn, auburn.
That would put us around 15 quad 1 wins on the year with 11 or 12 of them being tier A. I don’t think any team could touch that. But that’s an absolute best case. Unlikely all those things happen.
It would also help us tremendously if Kansas wins out. That would give us another tier A quad 1 win. Auburn needs to win up until the sec finals as well. That would likely push them up to tier A. Our sec tourney path would need to be miss st, tenn, auburn.
That would put us around 15 quad 1 wins on the year with 11 or 12 of them being tier A. I don’t think any team could touch that. But that’s an absolute best case. Unlikely all those things happen.
If the Zags are the #1 overall it is total bullshit. They are 4-2 against quad 1 teams and have amassed 25 wins against teams in quad 2 - 4, with 19 of them being quad 3 and 4 wins. That is embarrassing. That shit doesn't even deserve a 1 seed and I believe the Zags are actually legit this season.
Remember 2011. Don’t underestimate the power of the committee to screw us.
I can agree with this. Based on talent, I think they are a top 5 team. Based on resume, they are probably a 3 seed.
We had 8 losses going into the tournament and were a 4 seed. Only 1 team with 8 or more losses was better than a 4 seed, and they won the National Championship. That was a fair seed.
I thought I remember them saying ours and Florida’s seeds were a mistake. The contingency was to flip them depending on who won the sec tourney final and they forgot to do it.
It makes sense. Florida went in with only 1 less loss than us. A very similar resume and were 2 lines higher AND in their home region. Basically making them the top 2 seed. (Actually SD State was probably the top 2 seed that year, Florida would have been 6th on the s curve)
Even if their resume was better it wasn’t better by 2 full seed lines.
We also have the most Tier A Quad 1 wins which to me is the most important. Our wins are mostly against good to really good teams. Not like Mich St who has Penn St, NEB, and Texas counting as Quad 1 wins. All Have at least 14 losses, kind of a joke. FL could move up after our game or someone could lose in front of them and drop. They are so close at 32 it could be a Quad 1 by next week. Also in the SEC tourney if we win out we should pick up 3 more. If seeds hold we would play Miss St, TN, and LSU which are all Quad 1 wins on a neutral court and probably all Tier A. Before selection Sunday we should be sitting anywhere from 14-15 Quad 1 wins with the majority being Tier A.
If we play up to our abilities we are a 1 seed or the top 2 seed. We have done enough and most would already beset by now, but with it being us we need some more wins, but I think we get them.
If we play up to our abilities we are a 1 seed or the top 2 seed. We have done enough and most would already beset by now, but with it being us we need some more wins, but I think we get them.
This is what worries me. They find a way to give UK the shaft every season, it seems. The only time we haven't been screwed over is the year... oh wait, there hasn't been one.
My only hope here is that, with their talk about being more transparent and this NET system in place, they will have no choice but to put UK where they deserve to be.
They may still screw UK over, though, with the other teams in our bracket and our location.
While I agree with you, it's absolutely ridiculous that we need to do more "work" or win out in order to pass UNCheat. We should be past them already.
I think Virginia actually has the most tier a quad 1 wins. They have 8. We’re tied with duke and UNC for 2nd most with 7.
We need Kansas to win out. That would almost assuredly push them up to a tier A. They’re 18th in net right now. Since it’s a home win over them they need to be 15th for it to be tier A.
Auburn performing well down the stretch would help too. I think they’re right behind Kansas at 19th. If auburn wins up to the sec final... they would end up as a tier a home win as well. We could theoretically gain 3 tier A wins over the next 8 days while only actually winning 1 more tier A game(sec semis against Tennessee).
We need Kansas to win out. That would almost assuredly push them up to a tier A. They’re 18th in net right now. Since it’s a home win over them they need to be 15th for it to be tier A.
Auburn performing well down the stretch would help too. I think they’re right behind Kansas at 19th. If auburn wins up to the sec final... they would end up as a tier a home win as well. We could theoretically gain 3 tier A wins over the next 8 days while only actually winning 1 more tier A game(sec semis against Tennessee).
Looks like it's about time for the target to move.
Oh it will be.
Win out and UK will probably have damn near 15 Quad 1 wins and will lock up the South.
Oh yeah. We have the most quad 1 wins. Virginia has the most Tier A quad 1 wins.
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats Library/NET Team Sheets - Games through March 6, 2019.pdf
Where we’re sitting pretty is Missouri is the only team that appears to be on the line in a bad way. Meaning they have the potential to drop past the point of being an important win. The rest of them are all safely within the cutoffs.
There’s a lot more potential for upwards movement in our resume wins.
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Love your optimism, man. I really do. I'll believe we lock up the 1 in the South when I see it. I just have zero confidence in the committee to do UK any favors whatsoever.
We won’t get a three. Lock for a two with a great chance at the fourth 1.
Not just no, but hell no. We could lose today and the first game next weekend and would drop no lower than the final 2 seed.
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Ole Miss should have given us 8. It was a road game and they are top 40.
Kentucky has been #5 in NET rankings for a while now. These are daily rankings they didn't move up from yesterday.
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings
