Lorenzen’s Senior year wasn’t anything special. He had 16 touchdowns, 8 interceptions, and completed only 55% of his passes. He was an ok QB, but he was mostly known for his weight, unfortunately.
I thought Sheron and the big kid fromI thought it was wayyyy closer than I ever thought it'd be which shouldn't be good for Allen.
Hey, I think Lorenzen and Levis are/were both good, with Levis having a higher draft profile.I will never understand the type fans that like to down their own players.
You said his Senior year. I posted his Senior year stats. And yes, he was just “ok” his Senior year. I stand by that. I wasn’t downing him. Sheesh.I will never understand the type fans that like to down their own players.
https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/ex-cats/article232314892.html
▪ One of Lorenzen’s most notable UK records is for most passing yards in a game, with 528 in UK’s 34-30 loss to Georgia in 2000, a game he almost missed because of a thumb injury suffered in practice that week. Afterward, Georgia Coach Jim Donnan was asked if he thought that UK might have made up the injury.
▪ For passing yards, Lorenzen’s name appears several more times in the UK record book, most notably as the career leader with 10,354.
▪ The UK Hall of Famer is second at Kentucky and ninth in SEC history in career touchdown passes with 78, just one behind Woodson’s 79. Woodson and Lorenzen are tied for second in most touchdowns thrown in a game, with Lorenzen throwing six against Vanderbilt in 2001, one behind Couch’s seven, which he did against Indiana in 1997 and Louisville in 1998. ▪ Lorenzen is second all-time with 15 career 300-yard passing games, and has the third- and fourth-most 300-yard games in a season with eight in 2000 and five in 2001. Lorenzen is tied with Couch for second place in consecutive 300-yard games, with five, seven behind Couch’s record of 12.
And he's 8th all time in SEC for passing yardage.
Yeh, he was just an OK qb. *rolls eyes*
Just watch for enjoyment ...spring game means nothingDefense gave up 32 points so I’m not sold on it being a top notch SEC defense yet. Maybe if they can add a pass rusher and a CB in the portal, it will help.
It was practice. Not a real game. Offense and defense get different things from these. You want the offense to see who can score and you want the defense to get alignment and assignments down, see who will contest a pass but the defense is not going to unload on some teammate and cause an injury.Defense gave up 32 points so I’m not sold on it being a top notch SEC defense yet. Maybe if they can add a pass rusher and a CB in the portal, it will help.
He could of been if he really applied himself ,, the kid had talent just no self controlLorenzen’s Senior year wasn’t anything special. He had 16 touchdowns, 8 interceptions, and completed only 55% of his passes. He was an ok QB, but he was mostly known for his weight, unfortunately.
I loved both of those guys so I agree he may not have been quite as good YET… or maybe he has. Levis’s QBR last year was better than senior Woodson or Lorenzen with basically two receivers (granted Wan’Dale’s season was one of if not THE best by any WR in UK history, but Levis’s #2 receiver wasn’t even close to the caliber of even Woodson’s #3 (either Dicky Jr. or Burton) and he didn’t have a Sr. Jacob Tamme either. It was really a remarkable season for Levis considering he started his 1st game after just being in the program a few months. I guess the best way to say it is Levis has a good chance of being the best QB since Couch, since his first year (after only getting here in the summer) was equal to (or at least close to) the best seasons by any QB since Couch.If you want to talk NFL potential then maybe, but that's not what the guy said. Levis has a looong way to go to be as good as a senior Lorenzen or Woodson.
1. JLO was an incredible talent and his Jr year was exceptional season....but his Sr year was far from a good leader. He showed back up for his Sr year with a ton of bad weight and not ready to roll. And as stated...his Sr year was not very good in Brooks first year at UK.If you want to talk NFL potential then maybe, but that's not what the guy said. Levis has a looong way to go to be as good as a senior Lorenzen or Woodson.
Levis hands down is the best UK QB since Couch.1. JLO was an incredible talent and his Jr year was exceptional season....but his Sr year was far from a good leader. He showed back up for his Sr year with a ton of bad weight and not ready to roll. And as stated...his Sr year was not very good in Brooks first year at UK.
2. Woodson's career was pretty awesome for college but was a head scratcher why his NFL hype faded and was a lower drafted QB and then he was gone.
To say Levis has a long way to go to be like JLO or Woodson....nothing backs that up. He's already led UK to a better season (and he was the main leader on offense) than those two were able to at UK. His arm talent, his feet, etc... are better than those two QBs. I think Levis's final year at UK boils down to lowering some Ints and continuing from where he left off last year. My main concern is will our tackles be able to protect well enough to allow him to had a great year. But to me, Levis is the best QB since Couch in 1998.
Good stuff Hack, I agree.(1) Glad it slipped passed me this year. It looked damn cold.
(2) Enjoy Levis. Our first top two round draftee at QB since . . . Couch (who was No. 1).
The guy is money! Seven out of eight with darts . . . bullets!
(3) The Next Mr. Robinson. He looked the part. Caught great balls, made people miss with lateral speed and drug ‘em an extra yard or two.
(4) Dane Key: See above.
(5) The rest of our receivers: they had some drops. Catch of the day by walk-on Lanter from Danville/Boyle (I d/n remember which HS he attended).
(6) Backup QB’s all had their moments. And Kieya Sheron might have had the most.
(7) Mike Drennen: I was shocked at Donut’s ability to find “the hole” so consistently and run with such authority. Caught a couple of flairs and lowered his helmet!
Spring Practice Anomaly?
We’ll see.
(8) The Defensive Bigguns: 2022 will be the coming out party for many of our D-line signees from 2020/21. Good to hear Dinkins and Anaele’s names several times.
We look like a strong SEC defense, because we are a strong SEC defense.
(9) O-line. No glaring weaknesses, but with Cox out, and the staff still mining for another O-tackle, we’ll likely look better in September.
(10) O-line Coach Zack Yenser: they flashed to him on the sidelines in the second half, and I swear for a second I thought it was Coach Schlarman.
And that’s not a bad thing. Maybe part of the reason Coach Stoops has said his hire/fit is “almost too perfect.” A native Kentucky man who coached with Schlarman.
Let’s roll!
(10) The Offense: frankly, the fact that we increased our rushing yards by 3 yards a game while also more than doubling our passing yards had escaped me in 2021.
And I think we are in for more of the same for 2022!!
Rushing with three WR sets?!?
Passing to our flairing fullback out of a power running set?!?
A toss sweep for good measure?!?
I’m optimistic, but haven’t learned how to spell the OC’s name yet.
Are there any shorthand nicknames?
Thank you.He wasn’t an early enrollee, so he will arrive on campus this summer. He’s pretty raw as a receiver but has some elite athletic traits that might get him on the field early despite that. Definitely looking forward to seeing him in blue and white!
They were playing 100% base which mean no blitzing, and touch football on the QB. Believe me that puts the D in an enormous disadvantage and makes things easy for the offense. Our regular D for real will not look anything like that.Defense gave up 32 points so I’m not sold on it being a top notch SEC defense yet. Maybe if they can add a pass rusher and a CB in the portal, it will help.
I thought Allen looked more polished than the others, but had the worst luck with 2 or 3 drops on balls that were right on target. Hogan has some talent for sure and looked pretty solid considering his limited time here.How'd everyone rank the backup qb's? I thought it was wayyyy closer than I ever thought it'd be which shouldn't be good for Allen.
Both Woodson and Lorenzen had years that were ahead of the season Levis had last year. You're either too young to remember them or blinded by the fact that Levis is the first really good QB we've had since Woodson.Woodson was eaten alive by pre-draft camps & sr bowl. Destroyed his confidence by coaches hyping on his slow drawn out motion, tried to change it to speed up but just resulted in a messy inaccurate arm.
Will Levis best football in 2021 was as good if not better than anything Woodson or Lorenzen did at UK. I fully expect his 2022 to be the best QB play since Couch kn 1998, and the resulting NFL draft position will easily prove that out.
I have hated Doug Flutie ever since he ruined Woodsons draft status. He spent an entire game picking apart his throwing motion and decision making. It was almost like it was personal. Andre put up really good #'s in a tough conf and Flutie would of blown a qb in Big East with the same stats. I hate that guy.Both Woodson and JLo were damn good college QBs. JLo probably had more talent than Woodson but, as stated above, couldn't get his weight under control and, TBH, even at UK, it seemed like he tried to do too much and made some bad mental mistakes. I always thought Woodson would've stuck in the NFL at least as a solid backup as he threw a pretty pass.
Levis last year was good. With a year under his belt and even more weapons (maybe not ONE weapon as potent as Wan'dale), he should be poised for a very good year. If UK puts 9+ wins on the board again and WL performs as expected, he will definitely catch the eyes of NFL GMs. It's a bonus that he's playing in an NFL scheme, too, and that will also be a plus in the GMs eyes. I think it would help the program if he's drafted Rd 3 or above (which I would expect if he performs well). Would put UK in the minds of QBs as a destination to learn a pro system, develop and experience success in the toughest CFB conference.
99!!! Well I hope you thanked him for his sacrifices from all the UK fans on here that would have liked to thank him in person. But then I bet that would have taken a while if you did it for each one of us.I “inherited” my love of the game from my Tennessee uncle, who began regaling me with Bear Bryant and General Neyland stories by age 5.
He died July of 2018, at 99 years of age. He was my families’ Private Ryan, and lost his left hand on D-Day on Omaha Beach [actually in a field above the beach, where the presidential stand was built for the 1994 reunion].
I'm pretty upset with them, not only did they not telecast our game but they also didn't televise the other SEC spring games Saturday. I have all the channels that ESPN has on Direct and none of them had any of the games. And I don't think they have had any of the replays on yet. Wednesday is too long to wait, Appreciate a couple replays I found on here.It's on SECn this week. My DVR is set.
Lawrence attended dozens of UK\UT games with UK cousins between 1985 and 2005. He told his story often and was thanked by hundreds, personally, and a TV station in Knoxville paid for his trip to France for the 2004 reunion, recording the details.99!!! Well I hope you thanked him for his sacrifices from all the UK fans on here that would have liked to thank him in person.
Yeah, not sure why they didn't televise them live. I'm sure there's a logical reason because they had a crew there and all the games are on repeat this week on SECn.I'm pretty upset with them, not only did they not telecast our game but they also didn't televise the other SEC spring games Saturday. I have all the channels that ESPN has on Direct and none of them had any of the games. And I don't think they have had any of the replays on yet. Wednesday is too long to wait, Appreciate a couple replays I found on here.
I finally got a chance to watch it..... To me. Beau is the obvious #2. Looked like he saw the field better, made some really nice timing throws. The knock against his size looks to be a non-issue now, he doesn't have the big arm but looks to have plenty of arm to run the offense. Sheron made some nice throws as well, timing was a little off and he needs another year of S&C. I didn't get a good read on Hogan. I'll watch it a couple more times and key on different position groups.How'd everyone rank the backup qb's? I thought it was wayyyy closer than I ever thought it'd be which shouldn't be good for Allen.
Simple, wanting to trick /force people to subscribe to ESPN+.Yeah, not sure why they didn't televise them live. I'm sure there's a logical reason because they had a crew there and all the games are on repeat this week on SECn.
I think our receivers also dropped 8. 🤣🤣Agreed.....I am not sold on the D or Brad White as DC in general. Love affair with dropping 8 and 7 in zone all day feels like we've stepped backwards and not forward on that side of the ball.
Take out Vito along with losing Pashcal and McCall...not sure who the playmakers are. Not seeing DeRyck Jackson was a guy I hope would be starting as he looked like a playmaker last year and when he came back....he looked really good for a dude who sat out all year.
I can see JJ Weaver possibly being a pass rush playmaker and a good bet Ox does makes some good things happen....but where else?
I get there is no Josh Allen like the 2018 D. But even after that we had Mike Edwards was an elite slot cover guy. Boogie was dang solid opposite edge rusher of Josh Allen. Darius West blew up that year and then Baity/Lonnie were some lock down CB. I just don't get the same vibe from the 2022 D in other spots.
Strange because if you have ESPN/SECn from your cable/satellite subscription, then you could watch it live without ESPN+Simple, wanting to trick /force people to subscribe to ESPN+.
Disney is slow to get their act together with streaming. They decided two years ago to put a focus on it, help the stock price. They want subscribers to the Disney+ and ESPN+ platforms. I expect this to become a trend, holding back popular content for streaming only to drive subscriptions. ESPN has a history of this. You had to upgrade your sports package with your TV provider when the SECn was launched or miss out on games you wanted to see.Strange because if you have ESPN/SECn from your cable/satellite subscription, then you could watch it live without ESPN+
Oxendine missed the Blue White game, and most of the first string defensive players only played at the very beginning. As usual, the Blue White game was primarily used to assess and develop younger players on the 2nd and 3rd strings. Several walkons played a lot. The schemes were base, without any wrinkles. The game didn't tell us anything.Agreed.....I am not sold on the D or Brad White as DC in general. Love affair with dropping 8 and 7 in zone all day feels like we've stepped backwards and not forward on that side of the ball.
Take out Vito along with losing Pashcal and McCall...not sure who the playmakers are. Not seeing DeRyck Jackson was a guy I hope would be starting as he looked like a playmaker last year and when he came back....he looked really good for a dude who sat out all year.
I can see JJ Weaver possibly being a pass rush playmaker and a good bet Ox does makes some good things happen....but where else?
I get there is no Josh Allen like the 2018 D. But even after that we had Mike Edwards was an elite slot cover guy. Boogie was dang solid opposite edge rusher of Josh Allen. Darius West blew up that year and then Baity/Lonnie were some lock down CB. I just don't get the same vibe from the 2022 D in other spots.
I agree. All the backups pale in comparison to Levis. I must have missed Allen's noodle armed throws in the dirt that K Time referenced. He was generally OK. Deuce didn't blow me away with his athleticism. Sheron made some nice throws. That position is still up for grabs. Hopefully we'll only need them in mop us situations.I thought Allen looked more polished than the others, but had the worst luck with 2 or 3 drops on balls that were right on target. Hogan has some talent for sure and looked pretty solid considering his limited time here.
1. The first team D was in place for Levis/first team O for first 2 drives and both were easy TDs with not a bunch of 3rd down conversions needed to get to a TD. I agree the remaining 3 qtrs of Blue/White were 2nd and 3rd team all over the place.Oxendine missed the Blue White game, and most of the first string defensive players only played at the very beginning. As usual, the Blue White game was primarily used to assess and develop younger players on the 2nd and 3rd strings. Several walkons played a lot. The schemes were base, without any wrinkles. The game didn't tell us anything.
We will have an excellent front seven. Most of our defensive linemen had strong offer sheets and picked UK over other good SEC programs. Big dudes, and there is depth too. Our starting linebackers are returning from 2021 and they are really good. But the secondary has a lot of questions. Coach Stoops says he will take another CB out of the transfer portal, and it's needed. Thank goodness Ajian is back. Our defense will be as good as our secondary makes it.
Brad White is an excellent DC, which is why he just turned down the LSU job. Rich Scangarello has been talking about similarities between Coach White's defense and the most aggressive NFL defenses. I figure Scangarello knows what he is talking about. Our defense is in good hands.
I didn't see a single pass thrown in the dirt by Allen either. At least three of Allen's passes were thrown right on the receiver's hands and dropped. I thought all of our QBs threw well. Levis has the most playing experience, so he reacts and makes decisions a little bit quicker than the others.I agree. All the backups pale in comparison to Levis. I must have missed Allen's noodle armed throws in the dirt that K Time referenced. He was generally OK. Deuce didn't blow me away with his athleticism. Sheron made some nice throws. That position is still up for grabs. Hopefully we'll only need them in mop us situations.
I have regular cable, which includes ESPN networks and SECn, so I can log in to the ESPN app on my smart TV or phone/tablet and watch every game ESPN plus has. If you don't have cable/Direct TV etc, then you need ESPN plus as a stand alone product. There is no difference in content between ESPN plus or logging in to ESPN app using your cable provider login credentials. I keep reading commenting that they have cable AND also pay for ESPN plus and they are absolutely wasting their money by double subscribing.Disney is slow to get their act together with streaming. They decided two years ago to put a focus on it, help the stock price. They want subscribers to the Disney+ and ESPN+ platforms. I expect this to become a trend, holding back popular content for streaming only to drive subscriptions. ESPN has a history of this. You had to upgrade your sports package with your TV provider when the SECn was launched or miss out on games you wanted to see.
I have the same but it will no longer let me watch events that are designated ESPN+ only. I have been doing the same as you for the last several years, just login with cable provider. The Spring Game did not give me that option this year.I have regular cable, which includes ESPN networks and SECn, so I can log in to the ESPN app on my smart TV or phone/tablet and watch every game ESPN plus has. If you don't have cable/Direct TV etc, then you need ESPN plus as a stand alone product. There is no difference in content between ESPN plus or logging in to ESPN app using your cable provider login credentials. I keep reading commenting that they have cable AND also pay for ESPN plus and they are absolutely wasting their money by double subscribing.
Next time you get a chance, try it on one of the programs with ESPN+ in the upper right corner. See if you can get it to work, I haven't been able to the last several months. I might not be trying to access correctly or my work computer might be giving me issues with the firewall.I have regular cable, which includes ESPN networks and SECn, so I can log in to the ESPN app on my smart TV or phone/tablet and watch every game ESPN plus has. If you don't have cable/Direct TV etc, then you need ESPN plus as a stand alone product. There is no difference in content between ESPN plus or logging in to ESPN app using your cable provider login credentials. I keep reading commenting that they have cable AND also pay for ESPN plus and they are absolutely wasting their money by double subscribing.
I haven't had the issue you mention, but I did not try to watch the spring game live, as I already had the DVR set for a replay later in the week. I will say, that the UK games last fall that were only on ESPN+/SECn+, I tried to log in to my ESPN app, just before or right at the game start time, and it took me to the ESPN+ log in/sign up page, but I kept refreshing and eventually it let me log in using my normal cable credentials. The first time it happened I was losing my mind because I had checked with Spectrum and they assured me I did not need ESPN+ to watch the game. From that experience, it seemed to me, that ESPN is trying to trick people into singing up for ESPN+ even though they may not need to. The exclusive content is mostly international sports, but I will take a look at it further and see what I can figure out and report back.Next time you get a chance, try it on one of the programs with ESPN+ in the upper right corner. See if you can get it to work, I haven't been able to the last several months. I might not be trying to access correctly or my work computer might be giving me issues with the firewall.
This says what I was trying to say:Next time you get a chance, try it on one of the programs with ESPN+ in the upper right corner. See if you can get it to work, I haven't been able to the last several months. I might not be trying to access correctly or my work computer might be giving me issues with the firewall.