He got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He didn’t leave voluntarily.2022 - 2 seed
2023 - 6 seed
2024 - 3 seed
I still respect and appreciate Cal —— at the end it just wasn’t the same and he did the right thing by moving on.
He got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He didn’t leave voluntarily.2022 - 2 seed
2023 - 6 seed
2024 - 3 seed
I still respect and appreciate Cal —— at the end it just wasn’t the same and he did the right thing by moving on.
I disagree. Cow’s vanity and lack of connection with both reality and the UK fan base makes that comment very significant. He most certainly believes it was and is his program and not that he was entrusted as its caretaker. His warped priorities of thinking getting top recruits and making sure they were drafted high vs his needing to win big time is so apparent. Teams that go far in the tournament allow their stars to shine and get drafted…the route to the NBA takes care of itself.This is KSR taking a pretty innocuous quote from the interview with Pope and making it seem like it's something bigger than it appeared in context
Sounds better, because as far as I am concerned Cal left and good riddanceI don't think Cal said this. I believe Pope was talking w/ KAT, and during the conversation Towns told Pope: You know what Cal's saying down there in Fayetteville. He's saying "don't ruin my program".
Yeah. Both of those 2 seeds lost in the first game of the tournament to 15 seeds, two of the most devastating (and embarrassing) defeats in UK history. After the Oakland disaster, I gave up my family's season tickets that we held since Rupp Arena opened in 1976.Yeah. A 2 seed in 2 of his last 3 years here. Oh, the horrors!!
RUINRuin
Run
I think he said Run. Then Go.
He certainly was on that trajectory to run the program into the ground if he stayed another 5 years.This is UK. Not getting out of the first weekend for four years straight is running the program in the ground.
What, you mean we didn't get a Seeding Trophy? 😁So you’re defending him by saying that? Pretty sure we flamed out immediately as those very high seeds. I must be misunderstanding.
Nah, he wasn't winning enough. Now, had he not been Mr. "Lion doesn't listen to a Lamb" maybe he have gotten a bit more grace.I know this is not a popular view on here, but considering that after Rupp , Calipari did take Kentucky to the most final fours , I think he deserves some appreciation from BBN.
His comments and jokes are another thing. If he would not had made the comments he made over the years towards BBN , UK administration and Kentucky media, probably he would still be the head coach of Kentucky basketball even today.
For both him and us is good that he is not the coach anymore. However , I will always give him respect for his first 10 years at Kentucky and everything he has done of the court for the Commonwealth.
I am sure the Cal apologist thinks there should be seeding banners for Cal. The only thing missing is another reminder of the number of Cal players who are playing in the NBA.Surely that amounted to more than 1 tournament win
Do you regret that now?Yeah. Both of those 2 seeds lost in the first game of the tournament to 15 seeds, two of the most devastating (and embarrassing) defeats in UK history. After the Oakland disaster, I gave up my family's season tickets that we held since Rupp Arena opened in 1976.
Yeah. A 2 seed in 2 of his last 3 years here. Oh, the horrors!!
I am sure the Cal apologist thinks there should be seeding banners for Cal. The only thing missing is another reminder of the number of Cal players who are playing in the NBA.
Or the green roomHang em next to the recruiting class banners.
Don't forget the NIT loss to Robert MorrisWho cares what seed he started with, it’s what he did with those seeds. Two first round flameouts with a second round loss sandwiched between them. And of course, you didn’t include the 9-16 season before that.
Posters saying he did the right thing and “moved on”, “left”, etc. I don’t think it happened that way. And if it was up to him he’d still be here beating his square peg in a round hole further destroying OUR program.
To be fair, he only made the joke to Mark Pope. Pope is the one who repeated it. I found it to be pretty lighthearted.Some jokes are just in poor taste. Especially when you have a history of saying infuriatingly tone deaf, stupid crap.
What scares Cal now is that Pope will go on a run and add Titles confirming the very reason BBN wanted his lying ass gone. The reason Cal made that snarky comment was to take a jab at the fans that accused him of ruining the program. That's just his DNA. LSOS.Cal was ruining the Commonwealth's program. I know he was just joking, but I'll never believe a part of him didn't think it was his.
He was not just trying to ruin the program. He succeeded....just look @ his record the last few years!!Ruin it? It appeared Cal was trying to do just that in his last few years.
Yep. Built the program to insane heights but lost focus on winning and couldn't keep us there.But beat the likes of Pitino, Marhsall's insanely good Shocker team, Self, etc. Cal will just forever be an enigma.
And you'll never convince me something didn't happen to him during Covid. He was NEVER the same Cal after that.
AMEN!This is UK. Not getting out of the first weekend for four years straight is running the program in the ground.
Well he even said something to the fact of now that we have done that.... After they won the title in 2012 so right there should've been the early warning sign....He started the descent after he won the title.. It was a slow go, thanks to getting incredible talent. It kept him afloat for a short time. Then he bottomed out during the Pandemic. That was it. It was all over but the crying after that.
I thought it started after 2015. He had the undefeated season in his palm. If he gets it it probably propels us to the top players we missed out on after and cal would have been juiced. Instead he went into q deep depression and didn’t realize it. It’s like bbn needed a butterfly net to bring cal back. And when he got swaggy again that was the end.He started the descent after he won the title.. It was a slow go, thanks to getting incredible talent. It kept him afloat for a short time. Then he bottomed out during the Pandemic. That was it. It was all over but the crying after that.
The program was in ruins when pope took it. Nil and the portal saved it or it would have been a 3 year rebuild with pope at the helm.Ruining seems a bit silly when the very next year we went to a Sweet 16.
If Billy G couldn't ruin this program, certainly Cal couldn't.
I assume in the future there will be a time when the fanbase looks back on the entire Cal tenure and sees it in a positive light. Sure some would think with the talent we had we should have won more than 1 title, but I think overall it wasn't as awful as people make it out to be.
I will always say the biggest issue during that entire tenure was the lack of consistency, partly in the logic of one and dones. No one thinks poorly of 2010, 2012 or 2015. No one thinks poorly of 2017 or 2019. Even post 2015, we had some very talented and good teams that just happened to not get results in the tournament. But that wasn't the major issue. The major issue IMO was too many years in between where we just weren't competitive at all.
It's one thing to get upset in the tournament. This happens all the time and has happened to some very outstanding coaches and other programs. But to me look at our seeds over that time. Look at a team like Kansas under Self during that time. There was just way more consistency.
1s and 2s win titles. We weren't 1s and 2s enough IMO. And that was the ultimate nail in the coffin here for Cal.
But saying he ruined the program (he clearly did not) is a bit silly for a guy that did win a title here and took us to four final fours.
GTFO CalboiYeah. A 2 seed in 2 of his last 3 years here. Oh, the horrors!!
You read this board and don’t understand hate???Cal loves UK & never wanted to leave here. He kept thinking he'd get over the hump & the magic would return. But there came a point of no return & he finally saw it & bowed out. That was harder for him than you think. I'm one who thinks we should always respect Cal! I totally understood disappointment from fans, but I never understood the hate.
... pretty much exactly as I see it.Cal was getting killed on the court and it was Cal’s own doing. He never admitted things needed to change. He may have given lip service but he never did anything different. Also, Cal made a mockery of the fan base and talked down to us and belittled Kentuckians whenever he could near the end. I don’t hate him but I am glad he’s gone. He will need 10+ years of separation before he is ever considered to be welcomed back for anything relating to UK for me.