Jerry Meyer on THON MAKER

[brianpoe]

Originally posted by Roundballaddict:

Originally posted by BlueArrow87:
maker might be raw and might take a bit to develop but i think he has a chance in the future to be better than Zimmerman. not right now but in the future if he can gain some weight and work on his post game. I would take him here in a heartbeat.

He's got more than just a chance to be better than Zimmerman, regardless of how much hyperbole people want to engage in about how drastic the gap is between the two (one way or the other). He has a notably higher ceiling than Zimm. Zimm is more skilled and that may be more useful for a single year of college basketball. I'd rather roll the dice with a high ceiling guy and take that kind of talent, but every one has their preferences.

You hit the nail on the head, one year, that is the debate. However, Zim is gone and we will take all comers on our list now for sure.

 

[.S&C.]

Originally posted by Roundballaddict:

Originally posted by brianpoe:

Maker showed nothing in the two games he played in Lex and the last All Star game was very underwhelming. I thought Zim outplayed him by a mile.

He definitely cannot play in the paint at this point. He has great skills for his height but I am afraid he will not come close to meeting potential in just one year.

I would definitely take him and not expect him to be a transcendent type, just hope he can get us some buckets.

All star games mean absolutely nothing.

No they really don't. And its not something someone who follows recruiting closely will usually cite at all. I actually discard EVERYTHING I see in any all star game. The actual game is a team sport with many different variables. All Star games are one dimensional shows by flamboyant personalities. The workhorses rarely shine in them.

 

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

Originally posted by brianpoe:

Originally posted by .S&C.:

Originally posted by brianpoe:

Originally posted by .S&C.:
Maker is worlds better than Zim imo.

And Jerry Meyer is just a hack man. Why do people continuously post his guess?

Here's another crystal ball I found somewhere. UK 75% EVERYBODY.

Maker showed nothing in the two games he played in Lex and the last All Star game was very underwhelming. I thought Zim outplayed him by a mile.

He definitely cannot play in the paint at this point. He has great skills for his height but I am afraid he will not come close to meeting potential in just one year.

I would definitely take him and not expect him to be a transcendent type, just hope he can get us some buckets.

I've been following recruiting very closely since the mid 90's. The All Star games you are speaking of are completely meaningless and I could care less if Zimemrman scored 100 in them. Maker has a talent that is something I'd love to see in a UK uniform and I think he's better. I really enjoy his game.

SC, I love you man, but you following recruiting very closely doesn't hold water with me brother. I am afraid I have way more experience in the 90's and 2000's than most general posters, as most here know.

With that said, I watched Maker play in Lexington. Not all star games. Have you seen him live?

He does have some great skills, but he is also the biggest youtube sensation I have ever seen. Hope he comes here and hope he does well.

Are you speaking in your best Britt McHenry voice?

 

[brianpoe]

Originally posted by U9K:

Originally posted by brianpoe:

Originally posted by .S&C.:

Originally posted by brianpoe:

Originally posted by .S&C.:
Maker is worlds better than Zim imo.

And Jerry Meyer is just a hack man. Why do people continuously post his guess?

Here's another crystal ball I found somewhere. UK 75% EVERYBODY.

Maker showed nothing in the two games he played in Lex and the last All Star game was very underwhelming. I thought Zim outplayed him by a mile.

He definitely cannot play in the paint at this point. He has great skills for his height but I am afraid he will not come close to meeting potential in just one year.

I would definitely take him and not expect him to be a transcendent type, just hope he can get us some buckets.

I've been following recruiting very closely since the mid 90's. The All Star games you are speaking of are completely meaningless and I could care less if Zimemrman scored 100 in them. Maker has a talent that is something I'd love to see in a UK uniform and I think he's better. I really enjoy his game.

SC, I love you man, but you following recruiting very closely doesn't hold water with me brother. I am afraid I have way more experience in the 90's and 2000's than most general posters, as most here know.

With that said, I watched Maker play in Lexington. Not all star games. Have you seen him live?

He does have some great skills, but he is also the biggest youtube sensation I have ever seen. Hope he comes here and hope he does well.

Are you speaking in your best Britt McHenry voice?

Hey, I was on TV! Lose some weight babygirl before you go posting about me.

 

[FlCATFan]

Thon obviously has the height and athletic ability. If he is willing to work and learn there isn't a better college coach than Cal at developing talent. I hope the kid comes and Cal turns him into another multimillionaire.

 

[.S&C.]

Originally posted by brianpoe:

Originally posted by .S&C.:
Not sure what you mean Brian. I understand if you follow recruiting you think you see more inZimemrman, but I see a kid in Maker that is going to break out. He's Raw, but I like his game more than Zims. I like Zim, but Maker has an eliteness to him I don't see in Zimm.

And brother I'm not sure what experience you're talking about. You'd have to tell me what you mean.

I was part of the original recruiting network with Lemmons, Gibbons, Emfinger, Van Coleman, Cronauerand, and Terranova.

I started the first UK scout board and helped designate recruiting territories and hires for Scout with Jim Heckman and Bernie Kosar . We did all the camps and combines.

IMO, I agree with the poster above, Zim better now and Thon much more potential to be a star.

Ah I see. That's pretty cool there.

well Zim might look like the more polished prospect, but I think if Maker plays in college his impact will be greater. I could cite several reasons why I think this, but I doubt it would change your mind.

We're not that far apart. As I've told you I help coach a high school and we also help out on an AAU team locally/events and see these young guys in and out every year. I'm not an expert, but I see enough to understand what I'm looking at.

We will see.

 

[brianpoe]

Originally posted by .S&C.:

Originally posted by brianpoe:

Originally posted by .S&C.:
Not sure what you mean Brian. I understand if you follow recruiting you think you see more inZimemrman, but I see a kid in Maker that is going to break out. He's Raw, but I like his game more than Zims. I like Zim, but Maker has an eliteness to him I don't see in Zimm.

And brother I'm not sure what experience you're talking about. You'd have to tell me what you mean.

I was part of the original recruiting network with Lemmons, Gibbons, Emfinger, Van Coleman, Cronauerand, and Terranova.

I started the first UK scout board and helped designate recruiting territories and hires for Scout with Jim Heckman and Bernie Kosar . We did all the camps and combines.

IMO, I agree with the poster above, Zim better now and Thon much more potential to be a star.

Ah I see. That's pretty cool there.

well Zim might look like the more polished prospect, but I think if Maker plays in college his impact will be greater. I could cite several reasons why I think this, but I doubt it would change your mind.

We're not that far apart. As I've told you I help coach a high school and we also help out on an AAU team locally/events and see these young guys in and out every year. I'm not an expert, but I see enough to understand what I'm looking at.

We will see.

I think you are right. Zim is just more ready to help next year IMO, but Thon will be better in the long run. Hell, I hope we get him and he proves me wrong to pieces, I'm not proud.

 

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

Originally posted by brianpoe:

Originally posted by U9K:

Originally posted by brianpoe:

Originally posted by .S&C.:

Originally posted by brianpoe:

Originally posted by .S&C.:
Maker is worlds better than Zim imo.

And Jerry Meyer is just a hack man. Why do people continuously post his guess?

Here's another crystal ball I found somewhere. UK 75% EVERYBODY.

Maker showed nothing in the two games he played in Lex and the last All Star game was very underwhelming. I thought Zim outplayed him by a mile.

He definitely cannot play in the paint at this point. He has great skills for his height but I am afraid he will not come close to meeting potential in just one year.

I would definitely take him and not expect him to be a transcendent type, just hope he can get us some buckets.

I've been following recruiting very closely since the mid 90's. The All Star games you are speaking of are completely meaningless and I could care less if Zimemrman scored 100 in them. Maker has a talent that is something I'd love to see in a UK uniform and I think he's better. I really enjoy his game.

SC, I love you man, but you following recruiting very closely doesn't hold water with me brother. I am afraid I have way more experience in the 90's and 2000's than most general posters, as most here know.

With that said, I watched Maker play in Lexington. Not all star games. Have you seen him live?

He does have some great skills, but he is also the biggest youtube sensation I have ever seen. Hope he comes here and hope he does well.

Are you speaking in your best Britt McHenry voice?

Hey, I was on TV! Lose some weight babygirl before you go posting about me.

I do have all my teeth but i could stand to shed a few lbs

 

[sillygoose12]

Originally posted by Willy4UK:

Welp although they play different positions. Who is better for us, Maker or Zimm?

From youtube highlight videos I would take Maker, from watching them both play in games I would take Zimmerman. Maker needs another year in prep school

 

[CATSrock]

I have seen Maker play and he is indeed a very raw player at this point. However, he has skills you rarely see in a guy 7' tall. Imagine WCS with ball handling skills and a decent shot. He would do very well under Cal and with a lot of hard work in the training room could come into next season at 220 lbs which would help him immensely.

How quickly we forget about our own raw All American that didn't even average 10 points per game. I'll take Maker any day!

 

[devilpuppet]

Originally posted by TNCatfanforever:
Kid is a freak athlete with basketball skills unlike WCS.

What? No.

 

[Blue Decade]

Originally posted by .S&C.:
Maker is worlds better than Zim imo.

I agree. And I have believed since Maker reclassified to 2015 that Calipari will get him, if he has the grades. Going overseas or going prep will be his options if he doesn't have the grades, which is still a possibility.

 

[sillygoose12]

Originally posted by CATSrock:
I have seen Maker play and he is indeed a very raw player at this point. However, he has skills you rarely see in a guy 7' tall. Imagine WCS with ball handling skills and a decent shot. He would do very well under Cal and with a lot of hard work in the training room could come into next season at 220 lbs which would help him immensely.

How quickly we forget about our own raw All American that didn't even average 10 points per game. I'll take Maker any day!

Maker reminds me of a young Jonathan Bender. I really think he has more potential from an athletic standpoint than Skal but as far as his development and understanding of the game he's a few years behind.

 

[sillygoose12]

Originally posted by Blue Decade:

Originally posted by .S&C.:
Maker is worlds better than Zim imo.

I agree. And I have believed since Maker reclassified to 2015 that Calipari will get him, if he has the grades. Going overseas or going prep will be his options if he doesn't have the grades, which is still a possibility.

From what I have heard the problem isn't grades, it's whether or not he will have enough credits to get through the NCAA clearing house.

 

[fatguy87]

Originally posted by JasonSpear:


Right now how's a skinny, weak, jump shooter that can score in transition because he runs well. Still a very good rebounder and shot blocker.

If his dribbling skills are viable, could he fill a similar offensive niche as Terrence Jones?

Other than the skinny and weak part, that description fits Jones. Jones wasn't great in the post in either his freshman or sophomore seasons, but he was an excellent ball handler for his size and a great finisher.

 

[westerncat]

I would take Diallo over Maker by a country mile. Have not been impressed by Maker at all.