Isaac Humphries

[MWes11]

That is the great thing about opinion, we all have one.

Karnewski of Gonzaga is not an NBA player and he is much better than Hump. Some players are simply what they are, good college players or role players, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. i just do not see what he offers in terms of an NBA player.

I get what you are saying, but Karnowski is 23 years old, will be 24 in Nov.. Hump just turned 19 in Jan. To think he won't improve tremendously seems short sighted. He already shoots the ball much better than Karnowski, and he is 4 years younger than him. If I had to put money on it, I would say there is no doubt in my mind that at some point Hump is on an NBA roster and possibly contributing in some capacity.

 

[JohnnyGentle]

half of the starting centers in the NBA are euro born players. reason...ball skills and agility. two things hump does not have and wont.

oh, look who's wrong again

 

[LeonThe Camel]

I get what you are saying, but Karnowski is 23 years old, will be 24 in Nov.. Hump just turned 19 in Jan. To think he won't improve tremendously seems short sighted. He already shoots the ball much better than Karnowski, and he is 4 years younger than him. If I had to put money on it, I would say there is no doubt in my mind that at some point Hump is on an NBA roster and possibly contributing in some capacity.

Hopefully.

 

[JohnnyGentle]

You've got to be kidding me. So on the record youre saying Hump is a better rebounder than
Davis, Noel, KAT, Randle, WCS, Lyles, hell even Dakari. That's a good one guy

yeah just gloss over the word 'statistically' in the rush to post 30 emoticons

 

[JonathanW]

I really can't believe some think he will play in the NBA.

I can't believe there are some that think he can't play in the NBA. I don't think many are saying he for sure will, but he certainly could. We have seen lots of big guys over the years with less talent than Humphries make it, guys who showed nothing or next to nothing their first 2 years in college. Big's develop slower, that is just how it is. Add in that he came in from another country, that put him a step behind too. He has something you can't teach, or coach, or work on, and that is size.

 

[JonathanW]

You've got to be kidding me. So on the record youre saying Hump is a better rebounder than
Davis, Noel, KAT, Randle, WCS, Lyles, hell even Dakari. That's a good one guy

Statistics don't lie.

In Cal's 8 years at UK, only 3 guys have averaged > 10 rebounds per 30 minutes in a season.
1) Cousins 12.6 (2010)
2) Randle 10.1 (2014)
3) Humphries 10.1 (2017)

The 2nd best rebounder this past year was way back (Gabriel 8.2, followed by Bam 8.0).

Let's look at the guys you list:
Randle 10.1
Davis 9.7
Towns 9.5
Noel 8.9
Johnson 8.2 & 8.5
WCS 7.9, 7.7, 7.4
Lyles 6.8

Humphries is 8.0, 10.1 in his 2 years.

 

[The_Answer1313]

A better way to do this is by %. I don't have career numbers so...

Offensive Reb % Defensive Reb %
Hump 2017 = 17.6%/18.5%
Hump 2016 = 11.2%/18.2%

Bam 2017 = 11.2%/17.2%

Cousins 2010 = 19.6%/25.1%

Randle 2014 = 13.4%/24.7%

Davis 2012 = 11.5%/23.9%

Towns 2014 = 14.2%/22.3%

Noel 2013 = 10.4%/22.3%

Johnson 2014 = 16.9%/15%
Johnson 2015 = 13.4%/19.1%

WCS 2013 = 12%/17.2%
WCS 2014 = 12.6%/16.3%
WCS 2015 = 11.1%/17.3%

Lyles = 9.9%/16.1%

I think it's accurate to say that Hump is our second best OFFENSIVE rebounder. He's an avg defensive rebounder tho

 

[Cowtown Cat]

That is the great thing about opinion, we all have one.

Karnewski of Gonzaga is not an NBA player and he is much better than Hump. Some players are simply what they are, good college players or role players, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. i just do not see what he offers in terms of an NBA player.

No, he's not. Karnowski is also like 37 years old. Hump is 19. We all witnessed how good Karnowski was is that title game. Terrible take.

 

[caneintally]

No, he's not. Karnowski is also like 37 years old. Hump is 19. We all witnessed how good Karnowski was is that title game. Terrible take.

Exactly.

 

[BostonCat2001]

Exactly.

this is the fundamental problem. karnowski has 3 years where he posted double digits in points. his worst year (5.4) basically doubles issac's production so far.

but karnowski has a bad game against unc, while issac has the game of his life against unc while the 37 games before it has pretty much done next to nothing.

humphires > karnowski. lol

 

[LeonThe Camel]

No, he's not. Karnowski is also like 37 years old. Hump is 19. We all witnessed how good Karnowski was is that title game. Terrible take.

If 1 game was the deciding factor, you would be right. But it isn't.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

yeah just gloss over the word 'statistically' in the rush to post 30 emoticons

A better way to do this is by %. I don't have career numbers so...

Offensive Reb % Defensive Reb %
Hump 2017 = 17.6%/18.5%
Hump 2016 = 11.2%/18.2%

Bam 2017 = 11.2%/17.2%

Cousins 2010 = 19.6%/25.1%

Randle 2014 = 13.4%/24.7%

Davis 2012 = 11.5%/23.9%

Towns 2014 = 14.2%/22.3%

Noel 2013 = 10.4%/22.3%

Johnson 2014 = 16.9%/15%
Johnson 2015 = 13.4%/19.1%

WCS 2013 = 12%/17.2%
WCS 2014 = 12.6%/16.3%
WCS 2015 = 11.1%/17.3%

Lyles = 9.9%/16.1%

I think it's accurate to say that Hump is our second best OFFENSIVE rebounder. He's an avg defensive rebounder tho

Look up how many DNP- coaches decision Hump has then compare it to all those players. Hump will have more than all those players combined, there's a reason for that.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

If 1 game was the deciding factor, you would be right. But it isn't.

Whatever. The dude isn't that good. I'll take Hump every day of the week over that guy.

 

[JohnnyGentle]

this is the fundamental problem. karnowski has 3 years where he posted double digits in points. his worst year (5.4) basically doubles issac's production so far.

but karnowski has a bad game against unc, while issac has the game of his life against unc while the 37 games before it has pretty much done next to nothing.

humphires > karnowski. lol

age is most predictive indicator for prospects. lol indeed

karnoski's game involves playing through him, mostly. established fact that playing through okafor is a complete counterproductive waste of time in the nba. and okafor is much more talented than karnoski

humphries just turned 19 in january and has already spent two years not expecting the ball in a league that, whatever its shortcomings, is a man's game around the rim

humphries has short arms, so he's not great protecting the rim. but he's a 275 lb body who changes ends, is active on the offensive glass, has good hands & feet, and is a developing jumpshooter who can pass/catch & play dribble handoff out of the elbow area

as a backup center who will move the ball and throw his weight around, he's pretty appealing

 

[JohnnyGentle]

Look up how many DNP- coaches decision Hump has then compare it to all those players. Hump will have more than all those players combined, there's a reason for that.

a reason that has nothing do with the subject at hand

answer1313 addressed the point. you're trying to change it so don't try to climb up his back. nobody said humphries was better than davis or noel. nobody even said humphries was a statistically better rebounder than cousins

 

[d2atTech]

To me it's amazing that Jones has the 31st highest career total rebounds in all of Kentucky history having only played two seasons. He's right up there with really heavy hitters that stayed much longer. (And like you pointed out he was sharing opportunities with Josh Harrelson, MKG, and Anthony Davis.) And obviously his game was about a whole lot more than rebounding. He tends to get swept under the carpet due to both the NBA All-Star he played with and the constant march of new top-tier players every year who supposedly "play like him" although they never actually seal the deal there. I hope as time goes by he begins to get more of the appreciation he deserves.

TJ was a beast.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

1. He seemed to lay it on the line vs. UNC in the tournament. Question is this: Can he be developed into a serious contributor next year? His glaring weaknesses are footwork and general athleticism, rebounding is meh. I'd hate for him to be a diamond in the rough that was not polished. But you have to trust Kenny is gonna get it done with Hump.

Rebounding is one of his strengths.

 

[truebluewildcat]

Hump is a legit mid range threat and could be great in the Hi-Lo game with bam and/or bamba.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

a reason that has nothing do with the subject at hand

answer1313 addressed the point. you're trying to change it so don't try to climb up his back. nobody said humphries was better than davis or noel. nobody even said humphries was a statistically better rebounder than cousins

Man statistics are great and all but Humphries limited playing time makes it easy for his numbers look so good. So I guess if we're going by statistics if we wanted the best scoring PF we would take Wiltjer over AD. Again I'm glad you guys found a statistical outlier, but that doesn't make him a better rebounder

 

[BostonCat2001]

Man statistics are great and all but Humphries limited playing time makes it easy for his numbers look so good. So I guess if we're going by statistics if we wanted the best scoring PF we would take Wiltjer over AD. Again I'm glad you guys found a statistical outlier, but that doesn't make him a better rebounder

and lets be fair...it was limited because he couldnt play. not because of some made up cal agenda some fans push. his playing time was limited because he wasnt good enough to be out there and cal played BAM as much as he could.

 

[ccukuk]

1. He seemed to lay it on the line vs. UNC in the tournament. Question is this: Can he be developed into a serious contributor next year? His glaring weaknesses are footwork and general athleticism, rebounding is meh. I'd hate for him to be a diamond in the rough that was not polished. But you have to trust Kenny is gonna get it done with Hump.

Where is 2. and who does he work for?

 

[Cowtown Cat]

and lets be fair...it was limited because he couldnt play. not because of some made up cal agenda some fans push. his playing time was limited because he wasnt good enough to be out there and cal played BAM as much as he could.

Would Karnowski play over BAM? I highly doubt it.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

and lets be fair...it was limited because he couldnt play. not because of some made up cal agenda some fans push. his playing time was limited because he wasnt good enough to be out there and cal played BAM as much as he could.

Bam could've played the 4 it's actually his natural position. He played the 5 because we lacked a true C, which is exactly the position Hump plays. He doesn't play because he hasn't been very good the 2 years he's played

 

[JohnnyGentle]

Man statistics are great and all but Humphries limited playing time makes it easy for his numbers look so good. So I guess if we're going by statistics if we wanted the best scoring PF we would take Wiltjer over AD. Again I'm glad you guys found a statistical outlier, but that doesn't make him a better rebounder

again, the issue remains that you ignored the qualifying word statistically in your rush to ridicule jonathanw's post

 

[BostonCat2001]

Bam could've played the 4 it's actually his natural position. He played the 5 because we lacked a true C, which is exactly the position Hump plays. He doesn't play because he hasn't been very good the 2 years he's played

yup.

ideal scenario going forward would be for bamba to commit soon, he will play center no doubt. then BAM knows IF he were to decide to come back, he would be starting at PF and can showcase more skills, improve his stock. dont think there is a point for BAM coming back just to play center again.

 

[JohnnyGentle]

he wasnt good enough to be out there and cal played BAM as much as he could.

or he wasn't good enough to be out there at the 5 next to the 4s uk has had in his two years

 

[JohnnyGentle]

nope. bam's faceup play was nowhere near ready

impressed early as a willing passer, but once he got more post touches, teams started throwing different looks at him, and he struggled with making the right pass out

insisting the 4 was bam's natural position last year is absurd

 

[BostonCat2001]

or he wasn't good enough to be out there at the 5 next to the 4s uk has had in his two years

wow....now its everyone else's fault humphries doesnt play well. this kid has it good.

 

[wildcatwelder]

Is Josh Harrellson can become a vital and successful player to get a team to a Final Four then I believe anything is possible for Humphries.

After Harrellson's first two years here, no way anyone thought he'd do so well his senior year but it happened. Hope the same goes for Humph.

I do as well, but I just don't see it. Hope like hell I'm wrong.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

nope. bam's faceup play was nowhere near ready

impressed early as a willing passer, but once he got more post touches, teams started throwing different looks at him, and he struggled with making the right pass out

insisting the 4 was bam's natural position last year is absurd

Ok. You're wrong but ok

 

[rolaid]

Humphries was misused just like Skal. Skal is proving it and if Humph transfers he will prove it. Bam can't finish against anybody unless he is right under basket and can dunk or catch a oop. There is a reason he is dropping like anchor in the draft.

 

[BostonCat2001]

now its BAM's fault and short comings as a reason why humphries didnt do anything last year. lets start throwing BAM under the bus now as he decides whether or not to return.

but yeah...i'm the idiot jackass.

 

[Bryo72]

Yeah and Wenyen Gabriel is going to be a SF right away.



Bamba will be a 5 in college, in the NBA, when the aliens invade, start playing basketball and are all 9-feet.

You know how I know?

COMMON SENSE.

And when that happens, UNC/Louisville might get punishment from NCAA and homer MK!

 

[Bryo72]

Omg, same crap different year with fans...."WELL WE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER" if Chris Harrison started under Pitino....or blah, blah, blah
....insanity....OK rolaids=tums, where the hell else, will Humphries showcase his skills!?....mid major school!? Oh, OK....go from elite, to average and he's all american, makes sense to me!

 

[Bryo72]

I get what you are saying, but Karnowski is 23 years old, will be 24 in Nov.. Hump just turned 19 in Jan. To think he won't improve tremendously seems short sighted. He already shoots the ball much better than Karnowski, and he is 4 years younger than him. If I had to put money on it, I would say there is no doubt in my mind that at some point Hump is on an NBA roster and possibly contributing in some capacity.

How oversees, in Australia? Sooth sayers....he's never mentioned NBA/oversees...but why not make money oversees with his homeland!? (Light bulb, maybe?!)...yeah but jorts!....(will be next)

 

[Bryo72]

now its BAM's fault and short comings as a reason why humphries didnt do anything last year. lets start throwing BAM under the bus now as he decides whether or not to return.

but yeah...i'm the idiot jackass.

I agree bc

 

[Bryo72]

I like Jorts JR....but accusing bam?! Really?

 

[rabidcatfan]

Hump's gone, I can feel it. I don't blame him either. He can make a great living playing pro basketball in Australia while simultaneously being MUCH closer to home. It's got to be tough being a world away from home and your family at 19.