Is UL actually good?

[JFCats22]

I know the ACC is hot garbage this year. But, after starting the season 6-5 (with all five losses coming to ranked teams) UL has won 10 in a row.

They are ranked 24 in the Net and KenPom and their schedule is pretty easy the rest of the way. They may end up with a regular season record of 24-7

So, are they actually good or does the ACC suck that bad?

 

[twindaddy2003+1]

Acc is just that bad... UL fans talking all kind of craziness that if we met again they would beat us senseless because we have lost more games. Sec>acc

 

[Smashcat]

So, are they actually good or does the ACC suck that bad?

Both. 🙃

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

Quick, change the subject to UL!

Youve gotten absolutely comical at this point.

 

[JimboBBN]

They’re not bad. But they’re not as good as we are by any means.

 

[rick64]

I think they're pretty good, but the ACC does stink this year.

 

[ukjenning44]

They could honestly have zero conference wins if they were playing in the SEC. But so could a lot of other teams near the top of their conference.

Louisville is 0-4 against the SEC this season.

 

[tmuck]

If they played our schedule...their record would be like 12-9 or 11-10, and probably wouldn't make the tournament.

 

[ala_kat2]

I know the ACC is hot garbage this year. But, after starting the season 6-5 (with all five losses coming to ranked teams) UL has won 10 in a row.

They are ranked 24 in the Net and KenPom and their schedule is pretty easy the rest of the way. They may end up with a regular season record of 24-7

So, are they actually good or does the ACC suck that bad?

They are actually good. They’ve gotten better as the season has progressed. I wouldn’t want to face them again in the NCAA tourney, especially if we’re not full strength.

 

[Creed Bratton]

The ACC is hot garbage and the reason Duke will likely be the overall 1 seed even though they are the 6-8th best team in the country.

 

[Wonky]

They’ve certainly improved since the Pryor injury when they very easily could have gone backwards.

That said, the ACC is embarrassingly bad. Louisville has beaten ONE ranked team, and that was Indiana (LOL) when they were still living on their unwarranted preseason ranking. And the Cards have ZERO remaining games against ranked teams. So yeah… color me unimpressed.

 

[MethodUK]

UL proves that by changing the culture and overall vibe of the program it can bring you success. Even if it's against average teams. Will be interesting to see how they stack up against elite teams.

With that said what's funny is they have basically been failing and receiving F's the past 7 years. Now that they have won 11 straight they act like they are road scholars with a 4.0 average.

 

[runt#69]

I've no problem saying that Lil brother has a good team. They are. The ACC is not that great this year, though. Louisville hasn't lost since they played us. It looks easy enough for them the rest of the way. They have a good new coach in his first year, the players lok like they are giving the kind of effort to make the Louisville fans have a similarly renewed faith in the program.

GOOD !

I think it's fine. Having a rival like that, if, after awhile, you regularly beat them down every year, it pretty soon becomes old hat and the passion of a rivalry wanes until it no longer exists. (IIRC - Indiana fits that description)

Just like having other SEC teams enjoy success in any given year, and having them step up to bring out the best in Kentucky, it has led to some of our greatest years. I think this year may very well follow that pattern. In 96' Miss. State had that kind of year, and Vandy had a similar year in 2012. Remember those years?

It would be an awesome end to have it go like that! And I'm happy just getting a win in the NCAA tournament this year. Just ONE win is all I want to ask for, but of course, I am hoping for so much more!

It's interesting Kentucky has beaten Duke and Louisville, lost at Clemson. From what I've seen, those are the best 3 teams by far in that conference. I don't have the kind of dislike for Louisville that many fans do, so good for lil brother. Screw Tobacco road, I'll stay with the state of Kentucky for my hoops fix.

 

[sefus12]

Sad thing is we could finish with a solid SEC record and still be ranked lower than UL simply because their schedule is so bad. They will be rewarded for all the wins vs unranked teams and the losses will be forgotten/forgiven.

 

[bluedom44]

I know they hustle and play hard. Kelsey got those guys diving after balls like no one's business. They are definitely not as talented as us, but I would never accuse them of being lazy.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Hey I'll take another top25 win. At this rate close to half our games will be against top25 teams lol.

 

[Oldbluefart]

You have to call a spade a spade and like it or not, UL is not garbage. The ACC is weaker than the SEC and winning games in a conference that a bad night can be overlooked versus a league where even your A game is not good enough some nights is not fair to compare teams.
UL is somewhere where Georgia is; limited in areas but make up for it in others.
Georgia beat UK.
Kelsey is doing what Pope is doing, winning with what he has to work with. Difference is Pope is coaching in a league that you cannot have anything less than your A game night in and night out.

UL will be a season spoiler for someone come tournament time.
But in the end, its UL so F them and that's all the credit I am giving them.

 

[stenchymouse]

The ACC being weak has given UofL a very important ingredient to actually being good, and that's confidence.

I do think that UofL is a dangerous team in March because Kelsey is a REALLY good coach, and that team is extremely confident now.

 

[WeWant9]

They play hard and the acc is bad. Look at their remaining schedule, it’s super weak. Pitt is probably their toughest game. They should easily finish right behind duke.

 

[ck-2]

They’re a lot better than where KP had them the last few years. And the ACC sucks.

 

[Agent Redbone]

First off, the ACC is weak. But, as the old saying goes, the proof is in the pudding. UL is actually pretty good. I’ve watched the highlights, and they have gotten much better. Of course, not on our level if we’re close to full strength IMO. But, they are getting better guys. It appears they made a fairly good hire as well. Good for our rivalry though!

 

[FatestCat]

I work in Louisville and a I’ve told the u of l fans plenty of times that if they played every game as good as they did in Rupp they would be a top 20 team.

 

[TheDude73]

I know the ACC is hot garbage this year. But, after starting the season 6-5 (with all five losses coming to ranked teams) UL has won 10 in a row.

They are ranked 24 in the Net and KenPom and their schedule is pretty easy the rest of the way. They may end up with a regular season record of 24-7

So, are they actually good or does the ACC suck that bad?

ACC is probably the worst it's been in many years. Their 6-5 pre-conf record is likely more indicative of who they are.

 

[hoggwildcat]

Sad thing is we could finish with a solid SEC record and still be ranked lower than UL simply because their schedule is so bad. They will be rewarded for all the wins vs unranked teams and the losses will be forgotten/forgiven.

With that scenario, UK will get a better seed, because of our abundance of quad 1 wins and UL lack of. UK could have double digit losses and still get a better seed.

 

[westerncat]

ACC is really bad this year. I want UL and Puke to lose every game they play. Just because UL is in Kentucky does not make me like them.

 

[sefus12]

With that scenario, UK will get a better seed, because of our abundance of quad 1 wins and UL lack of. UK could have double digit losses and still get a better seed.

We’ll see. I agree that UK will have a better resume, but at the end of the day the NCAA loves the ACC, and I think the top two or three teams out of the ACC will be very well rewarded when it comes to seeding. .

 

[PhilipVU94]

We’ll see. I agree that UK will have a better resume, but at the end of the day the NCAA loves the ACC, and I think the top two or three teams out of the ACC will be very well rewarded when it comes to seeding. .

Bubba Cunningham as chair might benefit the ACC a bit, but the way it works nowadays the SEC will always have a rep, currently Greg Byrne of Alabama.

Duke will probably hang onto their 1-seed because it's so hard to find a loss in that hot mess of a conference, and their SoS is high enough now (KP: 39th) that another 6 weeks of bad opponents aren't going to sink them. Also they play Illinois for some reason. However.... it's hard to run the table. Illinois plus another random loss (@Clem or @UNC) would leave them 27-4 on a rapidly degrading SoS which might jeopardize a 1-seed.

But the drop off is huge and I don't expect much seeding advantage to playing in a bad conference. Louisville projects as a 6 or 7 (using Torvik), Clemson as a 7 or 8, and Pitt as hoping to escape Dayton. Overall it's not much better than the BE.

 

[Soupbean]

I've no problem saying that Lil brother has a good team. They are. The ACC is not that great this year, though. Louisville hasn't lost since they played us. It looks easy enough for them the rest of the way. They have a good new coach in his first year, the players lok like they are giving the kind of effort to make the Louisville fans have a similarly renewed faith in the program.

GOOD !

I think it's fine. Having a rival like that, if, after awhile, you regularly beat them down every year, it pretty soon becomes old hat and the passion of a rivalry wanes until it no longer exists. (IIRC - Indiana fits that description)

Just like having other SEC teams enjoy success in any given year, and having them step up to bring out the best in Kentucky, it has led to some of our greatest years. I think this year may very well follow that pattern. In 96' Miss. State had that kind of year, and Vandy had a similar year in 2012. Remember those years?

It would be an awesome end to have it go like that! And I'm happy just getting a win in the NCAA tournament this year. Just ONE win is all I want to ask for, but of course, I am hoping for so much more!

It's interesting Kentucky has beaten Duke and Louisville, lost at Clemson. From what I've seen, those are the best 3 teams by far in that conference. I don't have the kind of dislike for Louisville that many fans do, so good for lil brother. Screw Tobacco road, I'll stay with the state of Kentucky for my hoops fix.

Yeah I dont mind saying at all our little brother is pretty good and Kelsey has done a great job there so far. The lost some guys early and even overcame that so as the big brother and gold standard we can recognize that and give them a pat on the head for it without losing anything on our side. It helps them that they have a savy and seasoned point guard that makes them run. Once he's gone they will need to regroup IMO. But I'm impressed with what they are doing so far. Beating some mediocre teams but beating them bad.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

I know the ACC is hot garbage this year. But, after starting the season 6-5 (with all five losses coming to ranked teams) UL has won 10 in a row.

They are ranked 24 in the Net and KenPom and their schedule is pretty easy the rest of the way. They may end up with a regular season record of 24-7

So, are they actually good or does the ACC suck that bad?

Yes they are a good team. I don’t think they are great, but they are good.

 

[CatOfDaVille]

I listened to Deener for about 5 mins in the car this morning. They're absolutely on cloud 9 with this team. I guess I really can't blame them after the Mack and KP years. There was a lot of mention of the change in culture.

Kelsey was absolutely a good hire for them. They'll be a perennial top 25 team with him on the bench, but it's hard to know exactly how good they are this year given the weak conference schedule. I'd say they're ranked appropriately IMO.

 

[chroix]

I have no problem with us beating the top two teams in the ACC. Sure, they’re great.

 

[nascarforthedead]

They’re okay and dangerous when they’re hitting. However, their record is inflated in the ACC.

 

[AJG-15]

They are better than last year. Is Pope and Kentucky that good though for giving them the business and also to the best team in their conference?

 

[catlogic15]

Plus Kelsey has inked the top point guard for next year and Arenas has them listed. Might put together a formidable class.

 

[Cawood86]

I know the ACC is hot garbage this year. But, after starting the season 6-5 (with all five losses coming to ranked teams) UL has won 10 in a row.

They are ranked 24 in the Net and KenPom and their schedule is pretty easy the rest of the way. They may end up with a regular season record of 24-7

So, are they actually good or does the ACC suck that bad?

They are pretty good. Please don't cry

 

[Jamal Mercer]

I know the ACC is hot garbage this year. But, after starting the season 6-5 (with all five losses coming to ranked teams) UL has won 10 in a row.

They are ranked 24 in the Net and KenPom and their schedule is pretty easy the rest of the way. They may end up with a regular season record of 24-7

So, are they actually good or does the ACC suck that bad?

They are ok, but the ACC is the worst I've ever seen it.

It'll be fun to watch them crumble agaisnt the next ACTUAL decent team that they play. Wake is not a decent team like their fans would lead you to believe.

 

[BigKari]

I mean, they’re beating teams they are supposed to beat. Also, we played them and saw for ourselves they compete hard and have some dudes. Good for them honestly, it’s a good story. The odds of them fielding a tournament team this season were incredibly low, but they’re gonna make it. I think it’s great, I think we all want the rivalry to regain its competitiveness.

 

[Wildcats1st]

They are acc good

 

[hoggwildcat]

We’ll see. I agree that UK will have a better resume, but at the end of the day the NCAA loves the ACC, and I think the top two or three teams out of the ACC will be very well rewarded when it comes to seeding. .

The quad and the net rating was created for tournament seeding. This way teams can't play a cupcake schedule and expect a high seed.

 

[Blue wood]

Go look at their Feb schedule. It's awful, 5 if the 7 teams they play don't have a winning record