Undefeated, decent win against Memphis. Could USCjr give us a run for our money for SEC champs this year?
Is South Carolina legit?
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I think SoCar makes the NCAAT this year - low seed, but there.
I may be one of the few, but I really like Frank Martin - not as a potential coach for US, mind you, but he's a character
I may be one of the few, but I really like Frank Martin - not as a potential coach for US, mind you, but he's a character
I hope they are, looks better when we beat them! For some reason I've always liked Frank Martin as a coach, even back in his K State days....
Looking forward to that game in Columbia Feb 13th! Should be packed with Cat fans....
Martin is a great coach. I don't know what their schedule has been but I have always thought he would be good at S.C.
They shot 63 FTs tonight!!! Memphis had 5 guys foul out.
Incredible
Incredible
I will wait until they start conference play before saying one way or other about if they are good or not. OOC schedules make teams look good. Moody's team looked good with their OOC schedule.
They haven't beat much but they have won all the games they played. Most teams would have lost a game somewhere against that schedule. They will likely be in contention for a spot in the NCAA tournament this year. Lets say they go 10-8 in conference, which seems very reasonable, and they go 1-1 in the SEC tournament, then they are sitting at 24-9 on selection Sunday. No way they are getting left out IMO.
SC is TBD. If you go back and look, there have been many, many cases of power conference schools bolting out to great records OOC (against mostly crap competition), then deflating like a blown tire when they play in the conference (I know SC's state rival, Clemson, has done it a few times).
SC has given themselves a little cushion, but things could turn on them quickly. I actually hope not (except against UK), as I kind of like Martin, and it would be nice to see more SEC teams make the tourney.
SC has given themselves a little cushion, but things could turn on them quickly. I actually hope not (except against UK), as I kind of like Martin, and it would be nice to see more SEC teams make the tourney.
Gamecocks deserve credit! They haven't played a great schedule but they've won all their games which is all that matters. Frank Martin is a damn good basketball coach and they've really turned a corner. Our game down in Columbia will be a war no doubt!
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The selection committee has made it a pt to punish teams who schedule poorly. If they're near. 500 in conference play they're in trouble
99 free throws in that game! N-freaking-Sane. Undoubtedly had to have been a few front ends missed so the number could easily have been more than a hundred.
Field goals were almost even (Memphis-19, SC-18), and Memphis won from behind the arc 8-4. But with South Carolina dominating the charity stripe 63 attempts to Memphis' 36 how could they lose? Amazing they won by only 10. One of the most jacked up box scores I've seen EVER.
They have a garbage OOC, but the SEC is a garbage conference. They play Missouri, Georgia, Mississippi state, Tennessee, and Alabama twice. I bet they go 13-5 in conference. Get a seven seed. Lose in the first round.
IF things work out for them, and IF they get in the tourney, I won't have them getting out of the first round on my sheet. No SEC school other than us will get that privilege again.
If they are still undefeated when we go there, might not get as many people in there as we have been.
I like Frank Martin too. As BKO said, he's a character.
If they are still undefeated when we go there, might not get as many people in there as we have been.
I like Frank Martin too. As BKO said, he's a character.
Here is their schedule with kenpom ratings...
Sat Nov 14 50 233 Norfolk St. W, 84-69
Mon Nov 16 48 179 Oral Roberts W, 84-66
Fri Nov 20 47 154 DePaul W, 76-61
Sun Nov 22 41 82 Hofstra W, 94-84
Mon Nov 23 40 78 Tulsa W, 83-75
Fri Nov 27 37 282 Lipscomb W, 92-76
Mon Nov 30 36 213 Western Carolina W, 76-53
Sat Dec 5 33 274 South Florida W, 81-63
Tue Dec 15 31 223 Drexel W, 79-54
Fri Dec 18 30 87 Clemson W, 65-59
Tue Dec 22 28 240 St. John's W, 75-61
Wed Dec 30 25 NR Francis Marion W, 78-56
Sat Jan 2 23 70 Memphis W, 86-76
The number right after the date of each game is South Carolina's kenpom rating, followed by the rating of the opponent. As you can see, the highest rated opponent they've played was today's game against #70 Memphis.
I think South Carolina is not a great team, but they will scrap and guard you. They will not lose due to lack of effort. And there is no question they are riding a wave right now. I'm sure they will take a loss in a road conference game pretty soon. They'll be rough to beat in Columbia, but UK is very well equipped to get it done, in my opinion.
Sat Nov 14 50 233 Norfolk St. W, 84-69
Mon Nov 16 48 179 Oral Roberts W, 84-66
Fri Nov 20 47 154 DePaul W, 76-61
Sun Nov 22 41 82 Hofstra W, 94-84
Mon Nov 23 40 78 Tulsa W, 83-75
Fri Nov 27 37 282 Lipscomb W, 92-76
Mon Nov 30 36 213 Western Carolina W, 76-53
Sat Dec 5 33 274 South Florida W, 81-63
Tue Dec 15 31 223 Drexel W, 79-54
Fri Dec 18 30 87 Clemson W, 65-59
Tue Dec 22 28 240 St. John's W, 75-61
Wed Dec 30 25 NR Francis Marion W, 78-56
Sat Jan 2 23 70 Memphis W, 86-76
The number right after the date of each game is South Carolina's kenpom rating, followed by the rating of the opponent. As you can see, the highest rated opponent they've played was today's game against #70 Memphis.
I think South Carolina is not a great team, but they will scrap and guard you. They will not lose due to lack of effort. And there is no question they are riding a wave right now. I'm sure they will take a loss in a road conference game pretty soon. They'll be rough to beat in Columbia, but UK is very well equipped to get it done, in my opinion.
They haven't played anybody of note, but most teams in recent USC history lose to teams of no consequence, so I can't make fun of it too much.
I knew they were good after they beat Francis the other night.
I believe they are. I've expected Martin would eventually get things going down there. This looks like the year. We'll know soon enough. It's definitely one of the road games looming out there which concern me for this year's UK team.
Struggled? Needed 60 free throws? What would have happened if they had only been fouled enough to shoot 16 free throws?
Memphis came out to intimidate. There were some blatant early fouls and trash talking in the first minute - almost leading to a fight. Especially among the big men. From then on, the refs (SEC) called a super tight game. Every touch, every bump drew a foul.
Frank Martin adjusted by playing his bench & keeping the starters out of foul trouble. He also made sure his players kept it cool and business like, while the Memphis players were celebating the more blatant fouls that knocked a Carolina player to the floor.
Memphis pretty much hacked on every shot. Both teams shot around 30%. Memphis was solid from behind the arc; Carolina was abysmal. That's how Memphis kept it close. So Frank pushed the ball inside - which virtually guaranteed a foul. And eventually all the Memphis big men fouled out.
It was definitely a different game. Probably the longest regulation game I've ever seen.
I don't think USC hit home cooking from the refs. Frank figured it out,adjusted, played more zone, and used his deeper bench. Memphis stuck with their original game plan - despite it being obvious how the refs were calling the game.
Martin is a good and intense coach. It was only a matter of time until his team reflected his personality. They are decent but not really a threat to us in any way. I'm just glad to see them better.
I always prefer a decent SEC. Perennial also rans Auburn, Miss State, Bama and even UT with new coaches will make SEC basketball significantly better.
