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Is SGA UKs version of Michael Jordan?

I think a lot of people are misunderstanding OP’s question. I don’t think they meant to ask if SGA is an equal or even close to an equal to Jordan. It’s more of a question of “in 15-20 years will SGA be thought of as the premier UK alum the way Jordan is with UNC.”

When you think of UNC you think of Jordan. Will the same be said for UK and SGA years from now?
I interpreted the OP’s question the same way you did. Will we look back in 10 years and say, The University of Kentucky—that’s where Shai Gilgeous-Alexander went to school? The same way we associate UNC with MJ.

Barring a catastrophic injury—I would bet good money it comes to fruition. Shai is a good athlete, but his game is all about skill and getting to his spots a la Paul Pierce. He should be a dominant force well into his mid-30’s on a team that is set up to win big for years to come.
 
He has also played 100+ more playoff games than MJ did but go off bruh
Would that be due to his longevity, actually advancing in the playoffs more often, or going to 9 straight finals?

Don't get me wrong, if Jordan hadn't been banned from the league after the first 3-peat Chicago would've run off 8 straight and there really wouldn't be a conversation to be had. However, LeBron James is the best clutch player in NBA history and the stats back it up, IMO.

For reference, Jordan won 66% of his playoff games vs James' 63% per StatMuse. I don't intend to come off rude, just counting down the work hours lol.
 
Jordan is easily the greatest player of all time and he did it consistently throughout his careeer. Really there is no one remotely close to his skill level, work ethic, and athleticism. That’s why I don’t care for LeBron, he has all the skill in the world but doesn’t have the work ethic that Jordan did. Congrats to SGA but comparing him to Jordan is ridiculous.
Ridiculous take. You don’t play 20+ years at as high a level as LeBron has without having an insane work ethic.
 
Michael Jordan is a brand...one of the most recognizable brands in the entire world (to the tune of $7 billion). As an example, my kid (9 years old and not really into sports) has known who Jordan is solely because of the logo, shoes, etc. He knows Jordan as a cool shoe or t-shirt to wear, not because he's the greatest basketball player of all time. His brand goes way beyond basketball.

No one will ever repeat what the impact off the court is. If Kobe and Lebron couldn't do it (or even be in the same stratosphere), no one will.
This is the correct answer. Twenty years after his last last retirement, MJs retro shoes still outsell current NBA players.
 
Not really. But I don't think we've ever had anyone close enough to it to even debate who's closest. What Jordan did for UNC in terms of increasing the school's global popularity, merchandise sales, brand value, etc. was something unprecedented that will never be replicated by any one player.

An obvious reason for that is there's never been another college player who went on to have such a global cultural impact. But also because players like SGA simply aren't associated with UK in the same way Jordan was with UNC. That’s partly because: 1) he was from the state; 2) we saw him win a national championship there; 2) we saw him be NPOY there; 3) he constantly reminded us and pimped for UNC every chance he got; and 4) Nike and his marketing people went out their way to sell UNC as an integral part of the Jordan story.

EVERYBODY knew MJ went to UNC ...even folks in other countries who didn't know any other damn thing about CBB …because it was so linked to the MJ identity. Whereas the typical NBA fan probably never watched SGA at UK, and may have to be reminded where he played in college.
Yeah yeah yeah…

Will UK get some exposure if SGA wins the title and mvp? Will UK get exposure if a guy plays for bobcats g league team?

And this Nike UNC collusion. Jordan pulled UNC along. Nike didn’t do that Jordan did. If Jordan didn’t play at UNC they wouldn’t be in the discussion for top program. Now I know SGA isn’t gonna do for Kentucky what Jordan did for UNC. I mean this discussion is going to drive me to day drinking. SGA has emerged as our closest Jordan. He has future upside it’s up to SGA if he wants to pump UK. That’s his cal. I’m sure he will be all in if we win the title. Then you would hear the “SGA mvp nba champ played at UK who just won a title” you can’t tell me that if this were to happen it wouldn’t all feed on itself and move us to the top of the cbb world.
 
To me there is no comparison. MJ is just another level. SGA winning this singular mvp at this time does nothing significant for the program. Just is what it is.

I still say AD is our biggest NBA name to date.
Ok I respect that take on AD. Could change over the next year though. AD will always pump UK. SGA couple pump cal or Canada. So I get it
 
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That’s the whole point of Jordan. He brought bandwagon fans to UNC. UNC merch is always the highest selling and yeah Jordan has a lot to do with that because of his greatness and automatically if someone becomes a Jordan fan they became a UNC fan. I know for crying out loud we have no player near Jordan. My question is SGA the closest? AD is finished he’s past his peak. SGA seems to just be hitting his. If they win the nba title and he has the mvp that will bring bandwagon uk fans. I know what uk fans expect but now we have a guy who is breaking the mold for UK players. He’s dominating and it’s not hurting UK. It’s bringing in more fans. More fans equal more recruits. Means more money in merch. We haven’t had a guy like SGA to dominate

the league other than AD to an extent. That’s all time. I know we as uk fans will always hold players who played on winning teams in higher regard and I agree. The problem is cal sucked and brought us talent but couldn’t get them to put their seal on the legacy. Think of that 2018 team wo SGA. We probably don’t make the tournament. If PJ Washington does his job and hits fouls shots vs kSU maybe we win a title. That team was stacked and cal had no idea. That was a massive choke job of a season. It felt that way at the time and as time moved it’s verified it.

2018 nova would have beat the dog crap out of UK like they did every other opponent n the ncaa tourney. Don't disagree that UK should hade made final four with weak remaining region though.
 
The only reason I ask is because UNC isn’t what they are without Jordan’s legacy.I know we all felt it would be AD he left the strongest legacy at uk. but he’s slid recently. Never won league mvp and 1 title. SGA is just hitting his stride. The first former UK player to be named league MVP. He averaged an incredible 32-33 points a game. He’s no where close to Jordan but he is looking like the best pro we’ve put in the league at least via Cal. If that 2018 team was a little tighter mentally they could have won it all. If you would have told them SGA was a future nba mvp that season is mds differently well maybe not bc cal can’t coach. We definitely shouldn’t have lost to kSU. Right now and out of the cal nba guys he brought in it looks like SGA will end up his best. I’m happy for SGA but we wasted alot of talent. Cal never knew what he had he just rolled out the balls.
There’s only one Michael Jordan and his name is Michael Jordan.
 
Yeah yeah yeah…

Will UK get some exposure if SGA wins the title and mvp? Will UK get exposure if a guy plays for bobcats g league team?

And this Nike UNC collusion. Jordan pulled UNC along. Nike didn’t do that Jordan did. If Jordan didn’t play at UNC they wouldn’t be in the discussion for top program. Now I know SGA isn’t gonna do for Kentucky what Jordan did for UNC. I mean this discussion is going to drive me to day drinking. SGA has emerged as our closest Jordan. He has future upside it’s up to SGA if he wants to pump UK. That’s his cal. I’m sure he will be all in if we win the title. Then you would hear the “SGA mvp nba champ played at UK who just won a title” you can’t tell me that if this were to happen it wouldn’t all feed on itself and move us to the top of the cbb world.
Honestly, I'm not sure you'll ever hear much mention of him being a UK guy. He wasn't a great player in college and he was only here for a year. MJ was 2 time NPOY and has one of the most iconic shots in NCAA Tournament history.

If we are being honest, you really don't hear guys ties to their college team unless they were great in college. Steve Nash might be a really good example of an SGA type comparison. Nobody ever talks about Santa Clara when they talk about Steve Nash. He was never an all-american in college and was the 15th pick in the draft. I think that's what you will get with SGA. Very little talk about his one year at Kentucky and all the talk about his NBA career.
 
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Yes op he has a chance to be special and represent UK. I don’t think you meant he was in the same category at all like most are insinuating. There will never be another Jordan. Shai can be great in his own way. Let’s visit this thread in 10-15 years.
 
Ridiculous take. You don’t play 20+ years at as high a level as LeBron has without having an insane work ethic.
Ridiculous take. You don’t play 20+ years at best effort without your body failing. Never ask LeBron to make change for a $1. He never has 4 quarters on him.
 
Then you would hear the “SGA mvp nba champ played at UK who just won a title” you can’t tell me that if this were to happen it wouldn’t all feed on itself and move us to the top of the cbb world.
Well, golly, I guess that explains why Wake Forest (Duncan), Texas (Durant), Davidson (Curry), Arizona State (Harden), Georgetown (Iverson), UCLA (Westbrook), Santa Clara (Nash) and Memphis (Rose) all vaulted "to the top of the CBB world." Apparently that's just what an MVP automatically does for a school. LOL.

What's actually gonna “move us to the top of the CBB world" is Mark Pope's competence and a motherload of NIL money. SGA's career will have virtually nothing to do with it. You're free to believe otherwise ...but you're deluding yourself.
 
Dude I’m not a big Lebron fan personally, but Lebron doesn’t stay out all night gambling and drinking the way Jordan did.

He eat sleeps and breathes hooping, and works tirelessly at his game when he could easily retire and make $100 million a year in passive income.
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The only reason I ask is because UNC isn’t what they are without Jordan’s legacy.I know we all felt it would be AD he left the strongest legacy at uk. but he’s slid recently. Never won league mvp and 1 title. SGA is just hitting his stride. The first former UK player to be named league MVP. He averaged an incredible 32-33 points a game. He’s no where close to Jordan but he is looking like the best pro we’ve put in the league at least via Cal. If that 2018 team was a little tighter mentally they could have won it all. If you would have told them SGA was a future nba mvp that season is mds differently well maybe not bc cal can’t coach. We definitely shouldn’t have lost to kSU. Right now and out of the cal nba guys he brought in it looks like SGA will end up his best. I’m happy for SGA but we wasted alot of talent. Cal never knew what he had he just rolled out the balls.
I wouldn’t say AD has slid at all, he is still playing at an elite level he’s just never gotten over the MVP hump. He’s never gotten the respect he deserves IMO. He was the reason the Lakers won the title in the bubble. Absolutely the best defender and averaged like 28/12/3. Now that the Mavs are getting Cooper Flagg if they resign Kyrie and their roster stays healthy they will be a contender again.
 
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Well, golly, I guess that explains why Wake Forest (Duncan), Texas (Durant), Davidson (Curry), Arizona State (Harden), Georgetown (Iverson), UCLA (Westbrook), Santa Clara (Nash) and Memphis (Rose) all vaulted "to the top of the CBB world." Apparently that's just what an MVP automatically does for a school. LOL.

What's actually gonna “move us to the top of the CBB world" is Mark Pope's competence and a motherload of NIL money. SGA's career will have virtually nothing to do with it. You're free to believe otherwise ...but you're deluding yourself.
You’re talking about schools that had flash in the pan seasons some no better than SGAs one season. At the end of this I still don’t understand you other than you are very passionate about this for some reason. It doesn’t hurt to be the all time greatest program and for the first time have an nba mvp as an alum and if he were to win a title and play his way into consistency he would be a solid hall of famer. That doesn’t help us is your position. I’m deluding myself by thinking SGAs nba success is good for UK basketball and BBn. BBN needs to embrace SGA with everything it has and yeah we were a sweet sixteen team that year but we probably don’t make the tournament without SGA surprising everyone and showing out.
 
The only reason I ask is because UNC isn’t what they are without Jordan’s legacy.I know we all felt it would be AD he left the strongest legacy at uk. but he’s slid recently. Never won league mvp and 1 title. SGA is just hitting his stride. The first former UK player to be named league MVP. He averaged an incredible 32-33 points a game. He’s no where close to Jordan but he is looking like the best pro we’ve put in the league at least via Cal. If that 2018 team was a little tighter mentally they could have won it all. If you would have told them SGA was a future nba mvp that season is mds differently well maybe not bc cal can’t coach. We definitely shouldn’t have lost to kSU. Right now and out of the cal nba guys he brought in it looks like SGA will end up his best. I’m happy for SGA but we wasted alot of talent. Cal never knew what he had he just rolled out the balls.
Way to early to tell, If Shai averages 30 a game on 50% shooting most of his career, wins 6 titles/6 MVPs and 5 regular season MVP’s then we can talk. I still think Jordan was on a different plane than anyone. Dude retired during his absolute peak. He really should have two more titles, and a couple more MVPs easy.
 
I wouldn’t say AD has slid at all, he is still playing at an elite level he’s just never gotten over the MVP hump. He’s never gotten the respect he deserves IMO. He was the reason the Lakers won the title in the bubble. Absolutely the best defender and averaged like 28/12/3. Now that the Mavs are getting Cooper Flagg if they resign Kyrie and their roster stays healthy they will be a contender again.
He’s on the backside of his career with consistent injuries. I think he’s well past his high peak. He could be a solid role player for a team to win a couple titles but if AD has to be healthy all season for it to happen I wouldn’t bet on it
 
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He’s on the backside of his career with consistent injuries. I think he’s well past his high peak. He could be a solid role player for a team to win a couple titles but if AD has to be healthy all season for it to happen I wouldn’t bet on it
He’s actually played more games the last 3 years than he has In a long time. He is far more that a role player even now. You can pencil him in for 25/11/3 assists/1 steal/ and a couple blocks a game. He is ridiculously consistent. He gets a bad rap from his 2nd and 3rd Laker seasons. He only played half the games those two years. Every other year in the league he’s played more than 56 games and above 60 in a vast majority of them.
 
Would that be due to his longevity, actually advancing in the playoffs more often, or going to 9 straight finals?

Don't get me wrong, if Jordan hadn't been banned from the league after the first 3-peat Chicago would've run off 8 straight and there really wouldn't be a conversation to be had. However, LeBron James is the best clutch player in NBA history and the stats back it up, IMO.

For reference, Jordan won 66% of his playoff games vs James' 63% per StatMuse. I don't intend to come off rude, just counting down the work hours lol.
I applaud your last sentence - the world needs more civility! Good on you. But.......to say Lebron is the best clutch player of all time is an example of using statistics to build a case for whatever you want. We've seen Lebron falter too many times in too many critical situations to take such a claim seriously. For me personally, his fate was sealed - in terms of comparisons to Jordan, the most competitive (psychotic?) player in world history - when he disappeared vs the Celtics in the 2010 playoffs. Just laid down.

[note, I figure I should say I'm not a Lebron hater. I don't care about the political stuff he does that angers so many, and the other things that bother people - the flopping, the complaining, the teaming up with all stars.....whatever. Simply taking what he's accomplished on the court at face value is obviously the stuff of all time legend. That said, his great misfortune in life is to be in the position where people compare him to Michael Jordan. No one looks good in that spot.]
 
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I'd trade all of our current NBA All-Stars - including SGA - for Larry Bird on the 1979 UK team; Kemp on the 1989 team; Iverson and Allen on the 1995/1996 team; and T-Mac on the 1998 team.
You don't lose any titles in that trade, and you gain the 1979 title, the 1995 title, and galvanize the 1998 team a bit more with the best small forward in program history in T-Mac.
 
I don't want to jinx it but I think it is in the realm of possibilities. Him and the Thunder are just starting their prime and could easily go on a massive run. At age 26, and with the way he plays (crafty instead of relying on explosive athleticism), he could be elite for a very long time and win several titles and MVPs.
 
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No, he isn't. I don't know how today's NBA players would fare in the days of Jordan, but IMO he wouldn't do much as an "athlete". I like him, lest someone suggest that I'm a "hater" because I'm not sucking his toes.
 
Dude I’m not a big Lebron fan personally, but Lebron doesn’t stay out all night gambling and drinking the way Jordan did.

He eat sleeps and breathes hooping, and works tirelessly at his game when he could easily retire and make $100 million a year in passive income.
I’m not saying he isn’t skilled. I think he is as skilled as anyone that ever played the game. The rest of the work ethic, killer instinct etc is lacking. He can beat teams when he wants to.
 
I’m not saying he isn’t skilled. I think he is as skilled as anyone that ever played the game. The rest of the work ethic, killer instinct etc is lacking. He can beat teams when he wants to.
Claiming Lebron lacks “work ethic” is just plain stupid.

The dude is known for being absolutely fanatical about his fitness, nutrition and training routines. Always keeps himself in perfect shape, even in the off season. And has missed remarkably few games for someone his age with more mileage on his legs than any player in history.

How is he not working hard enough?
 
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If you framed this question does SGA have the potential to be UK most famous NBA player then I think you may have a resounding yes.

At his age and the potential run OKC has with their youth theoretically you can see a 3-peat. Which would put him in rarified air if the MVP's come along for the ride.
 
Can the average NBA fan even tell you where SGA went to college? Everyone knew MJ went to UNC
 
Dude I’m not a big Lebron fan personally, but Lebron doesn’t stay out all night gambling and drinking the way Jordan did.

He eat sleeps and breathes hooping, and works tirelessly at his game when he could easily retire and make $100 million a year in passive income.
And is still a whiny, flopping bitch that couldn’t carry Jordan’s jock.
 
Can the average NBA fan even tell you where SGA went to college? Everyone knew MJ went to UNC
That’s a really good point. Outside of UK and die hard CBB fans, who would know that SGA went to UK. I mean he was only in Lexington for 6 months. As opposed to Jordan who was at UNC for 3 years. And it was advertised as nauseam in the early years that he went to UNC, played for Dean Smith, still wore Carolina blue shorts under his Bulls uniform, etc.
 
No one under 40 and I'm stretching here I really think 50 knows who Dan Issel is.

I think for the future of the Kentucky Program we need another player to take that mantel and it appears to be SGA. We all thought it would be Anthony Davis but his injuries in the NBA screwed him. SGA in a watered down NBA is putting up seasons only the great Michael Jordon have done.

We all should be rooting like hell that SGA can go on a mini run here and become a legacy player for Kentucky.
 
The only reason I ask is because UNC isn’t what they are without Jordan’s legacy.I know we all felt it would be AD he left the strongest legacy at uk. but he’s slid recently. Never won league mvp and 1 title. SGA is just hitting his stride. The first former UK player to be named league MVP. He averaged an incredible 32-33 points a game. He’s no where close to Jordan but he is looking like the best pro we’ve put in the league at least via Cal. If that 2018 team was a little tighter mentally they could have won it all. If you would have told them SGA was a future nba mvp that season is mds differently well maybe not bc cal can’t coach. We definitely shouldn’t have lost to kSU. Right now and out of the cal nba guys he brought in it looks like SGA will end up his best. I’m happy for SGA but we wasted alot of talent. Cal never knew what he had he just rolled out the balls.
North Carolina at Chapel Hill was an established great program going back to their only legitimate national championship under Frank McGuire. Dean E. Smith had some great teams prior to 1968. After that while winning national championships, every one of them had ineligible players due to Dean E. Smith’s academic bullshit scam scheme. Michael Jordan is one of the greatest of all time.
 
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