IMO briscoe is the key to next yr

[anon_013cn8yrfncx2]

UK is not going to be running a 3 guard offense next year with the logjam up front. If IB is starting at the 1 or 2 the Cats will be offensively challenged more than already anticipated.

If he wants to return that's OK but don't see him getting the minutes he got this year.

 

[truebluewildcat]

Briscoe can be a solid older guy and nice piece to the puzzle, but if he is the key we are in trouble.

He had a real opportunity to be "the guy" against UNC when Fox and Monk were gassed and laying bricks. That game was a perfect opportunity for him to put the squad on his back, lead them, and come up big in clutch situations. That's not how things went down though and instead it was Hawk and Hump that kept things from getting ugly.

I can appreciate IB's hustle and his physical style of play, but he is not a center piece guy that is going to win games for you on his own. As other's have said he isn't an assist machine, he's not a shut down defender, he isn't a great shooter. He is a one trick pony and that trick is going all tasmanian devil through the lane.

At this point he's probably one of the more overrated players Cal has had. Take him out of the picture and I'll bet dollars to donuts we end up with near the same record with Hawk.

 

[WildMoon]

Briscoe can be a solid older guy and nice piece to the puzzle, but if he is the key we are in trouble.

He had a real opportunity to be "the guy" against UNC when Fox and Monk were gassed and laying bricks. That game was a perfect opportunity for him to put the squad on his back, lead them, and come up big in clutch situations. That's not how things went down though and instead it was Hawk and Hump that kept things from getting ugly.

I can appreciate IB's hustle and his physical style of play, but he is not a center piece guy that is going to win games for you on his own. As other's have said he isn't an assist machine, he's not a shut down defender, he isn't a great shooter. He is a one trick pony and that trick is going all tasmanian devil through the lane.

At this point he's probably one of the more overrated players Cal has had. Take him out of the picture and I'll bet dollars to donuts we end up with near the same record with Hawk.

um...he actually did carry us. He got 3 steals, 3 charge drawn, 8 assists..... :-/ He was our best player in that game running the offense. Got the ball that was hot in Humphries. Hawkins were okay. He made shot but like always 0 assist and 3 reb.

Second...did people forget he is a sophomore? What morons keep treating him as a senior. You guys want experience...well let's make sure to kick him out like you idiots think. BTW, i love the OAD approach.

Oh and, Look at these numbers
10.9 @ 47.8% FG%, 4.6 rpg, 1.7 apg, .8 spg, 1.1 bpg. his PER was 18.4.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

we are better off with Green being our PG.

Briscoe may of improved his 3pt shot to 28% but the numbers dont tell the story. The story is......... % means jack sh*t if teams are leaving you wide open daring you to shoot because they know you cant beat them from deep.

At least this isnt people clamoring for Marcus Lee like retards...... forgetting that the guy fouled like a wilderbeast and only showed up to play well 1/4th of the games.

 

[aikenite4uk]

Briscoe can be a solid older guy and nice piece to the puzzle, but if he is the key we are in trouble.

He had a real opportunity to be "the guy" against UNC when Fox and Monk were gassed and laying bricks. That game was a perfect opportunity for him to put the squad on his back, lead them, and come up big in clutch situations. That's not how things went down though and instead it was Hawk and Hump that kept things from getting ugly.

I can appreciate IB's hustle and his physical style of play, but he is not a center piece guy that is going to win games for you on his own. As other's have said he isn't an assist machine, he's not a shut down defender, he isn't a great shooter. He is a one trick pony and that trick is going all tasmanian devil through the lane.

At this point he's probably one of the more overrated players Cal has had. Take him out of the picture and I'll bet dollars to donuts we end up with near the same record with Hawk.

Can't disagree with any of this take. At best, he's a complementary player. If he can further develop his outside shot, he may have a chance to be a top echelon college player and get a cup of coffee in the league.

 

[JohnnyGentle]

Briscoe can be a solid older guy and nice piece to the puzzle, but if he is the key we are in trouble.

He had a real opportunity to be "the guy" against UNC when Fox and Monk were gassed and laying bricks. That game was a perfect opportunity for him to put the squad on his back, lead them, and come up big in clutch situations. That's not how things went down though and instead it was Hawk and Hump that kept things from getting ugly.

I can appreciate IB's hustle and his physical style of play, but he is not a center piece guy that is going to win games for you on his own. As other's have said he isn't an assist machine, he's not a shut down defender, he isn't a great shooter. He is a one trick pony and that trick is going all tasmanian devil through the lane.

At this point he's probably one of the more overrated players Cal has had. Take him out of the picture and I'll bet dollars to donuts we end up with near the same record with Hawk.

he had 8 assists and jackson had 19 points on 17 shots. uk stayed in the game with fox sitting for 12 minutes, but that had nothing to do with briscoe, because he wasn't making jumpshots

amazing how uk has managed to be a top 15 offense nationally two years in a row with briscoe playing 30 minutes, it really is

you and the guy who blames briscoe for willis not bothering to guard anyone on the last play get it, cal doesn't

 

[Wall2Boogie]

I love green don't get me wrong but I feel he could benefit tremendously with briscoe here. He is basically our only true pg next ur which is why I feel briscoe who will be even better will be a huge asset for next yr. if the rumors are true I would love to have bam back as well. Good god.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

We need Briscoe back considering the fact that all the other guards are going to be freshmen. That, in itself, is a no brainer, IMO. Not to mention, we are really thin in the backcourt as is for next year.

 

[truebluewildcat]

um...he actually did carry us. He got 3 steals, 3 charge drawn, 8 assists..... :-/ He was our best player in that game running the offense. Got the ball that was hot in Humphries. Hawkins were okay. He made shot but like always 0 assist and 3 reb.

Second...did people forget he is a sophomore? What morons keep treating him as a senior. You guys want experience...well let's make sure to kick him out like you idiots think. BTW, i love the OAD approach.

Oh and, Look at these numbers
10.9 @ 47.8% FG%, 4.6 rpg, 1.7 apg, .8 spg, 1.1 bpg. his PER was 18.4.

he also had 3 TOs and went 1-4 from the stripe, and had 7 pts...

In a guard and perimeter shooting era, 63% from the stripe and 28% from 3 on the season from your lead guard isn't going to cut the mustard. Those percentages say It is simply a liability for him to be in the game in crucial situations, especially late.

Nobody is trying to run him out of town, some folks are just coming to understand that what he is and isn't.

He's a strong, physical guard that will hustle and who can slash the lane. A solid complimentary/role playing piece. The cherry on top of a healthy helping of cake and ice cream.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

so

Pg- Briscoe
Sg- Diallo
Sf- Vanderbilt
Pf- Washington
C-- Bamba

thats the lineup you guys are clamoring for huh? Poor Briscoe.... He's going to be a bigger scape goat than Andrew Harrison............. because the shooting on that team would be AWFUL....

 

[WildMoon]

he also had 3 TOs and went 1-4 from the stripe, and had 7 pts...

In a guard and perimeter shooting era, 63% from the stripe and 28% from 3 on the season from your lead guard isn't going to cut the mustard. Those percentages say It is simply a liability for him to be in the game in crucial situations, especially late.

Nobody is trying to run him out of town, some folks are just coming to understand that what he is and isn't.

He's a strong, physical guard that will hustle and who can slash the lane. A solid complimentary/role playing piece. The cherry on top of a healthy helping of cake and ice cream.

3 TO when you have 8 assists isn't a big deal... You almost have 3 to 1 a/to... you are nitpicking. also 3 missed FT is annoying...but if that's his worst mistake...

Do you realize you don't even know what the discussion is about?

People do want him out.. People believe he is angry(why)... People think he can't improve...

No one has said he will be the best player on this team... NO ONE. so your last point is so meaningless. Most of us want him to come back so that he can help us lead during the summer and scrap throughout the season like he did...

and again...he is a sophomore. Him coming back only strengthens our roster. We are thin in PG position. We have Green and that's it. Green isn't a one and done super star. Assuming he can take over college game the second he comes is silly. Fox/Monk both struggled the whole season.

Will Green shoot at high percentage? No proof of that, he shot 38% in high school, college will be much more difficult. Him and Diallo can lead us during the summer, we would be 2-3 step ahead by having them here.

 

[WildMoon]

so

Pg- Briscoe
Sg- Diallo
Sf- Vanderbilt
Pf- Washington
C-- Bamba

thats the lineup you guys are clamoring for huh? Poor Briscoe.... He's going to be a bigger scape goat than Andrew Harrison............. because the shooting on that team would be AWFUL....

and without Briscoe is going to improve the shooting? LOL, that's one player...

BTW, Bamba if he comes here, will likely PF and have someone like Humphries/Richards/SKJ starting 5.

 

[kev69]

say what you want about briscoe but I hope he stays we need him to help with the freshman guards and especially as a leader. He will have no bearing on Alexander or smith if call takes him. I think if briscoe does come back he's the leader we need that will help the young guys and has gotten a lot better if he were to come back I feel he could work himself into the first round and make this team completely better. I think he comes in a better shooter and you already know about his passing. I hope cal told him the same thing he told ulis. Thanks to diallo and our other recruits I feel they will land bamba and even it doesn't want to play the five bam could play the four if he comes back which we be huge. Next yr could be very special and I think guys like skj and weynen would get thrown in earlybtonshow what they have. Get briscoe and mext yr will be a final four team . As much as I hate to say it I think Knox goes to unc and duval will hopefully go overseas or to Kansa. It scares me duval will convince him to join him at puke, but with him being good friends with our recruits that has to play in big time

No, he's not anywhere close to being the key next season.

Briscoe doesn't seem to want to be here.

He's really a nice sub for 10-12 minutes a game. Decent player, and that's great, but not much more then a part time role player.

 

[morgousky]

If Briscoe comes back and accepts the 6th man role, much like Darius Mille was, it would be huge. Of course, he can still get loads of minutes and congribute in more meaningful ways as the 6th man.

If he can't accept that or wants 30+ minutes a game it's not going to work.

 

[track42]

I don't know who everyone thinks is so great coming in that we don't need Briscoe.Green is a pretty good shooter but not great on defense.Diallo shooting was worse than Briscoe in high school.Vanderbilt can't shoot and Washington is average so how is Briscoe going to ruin our offense next season if he returns.We could use at least one guy with experience.

 

[WildMoon]

I don't know who everyone thinks is so great coming in that we don't need Briscoe.Green is a pretty good shooter but not great on defense.Diallo shooting was worse than Briscoe in high school.Vanderbilt can't shoot and Washington is average so how is Briscoe going to ruin our offense next season if he returns.We could use at least one guy with experience.

its always greener on the other side of the fence mentality.

People think because it's #1 recruiting class, that it's made up of top tier talents. It's not. This class is made up off lower end of 5 star talents. Unless we get Bamba and Knox, and we definitely need one of them.

Unless we are talking about top 5 NBA draft picks, all these guys have major flaws in their game. hell didn't Washington go 3 for 14 from FT today?

I hope we get Bamba and Briscoe. These are two keys for us to have really great season.

 

[Wall2Boogie]

No, he's not anywhere close to being the key next season.

Briscoe doesn't seem to want to be here.

He's really a nice sub for 10-12 minutes a game. Decent player, and that's great, but not much more then a part time role player.

We need a guy that can handle the pg role especially in late game situations who isn't afraid to be the leader in clutch situations. I'm not saying he's the answer, I'm saying his experience will play a huge role in that. I know green is going to be a good player, but having a guy who been there in briscoe will help green in his development. I don't expect not do I expect briscoe to be a 20 pt scorer. I think he can play even better than he did this yr and build on last year

 

[kev69]

We need a guy that can handle the pg role especially in late game situations who isn't afraid to be the leader in clutch situations. I'm not saying he's the answer, I'm saying his experience will play a huge role in that. I know green is going to be a good player, but having a guy who been there in briscoe will help green in his development. I don't expect not do I expect briscoe to be a 20 pt scorer. I think he can play even better than he did this yr and build on last year

Maybe, but again, he doesn't want to be here.

 

[Wall2Boogie]

Maybe, but again, he doesn't want to be here.

Besides umm says who? Trust me I know he wants to be in the NBA but unfortunately he is not ready yet

 

[kev69]

Besides umm says who? Trust me I know he wants to be in the NBA but unfortunately he is not ready yet

Look Boogie, I know, and you know he's not good enough to stick on an NBA roster.
His best bet is to get a degree at UK, which is totally paid for by Kentucky, and try to get a whole lot better by his senior year.

The problem is, guys like Briscoe, don't think logically. He thinks he's better than he is.

Get your free degree! Take advantage of the blessing of that. But, we know he won't.

 

[zcats]

He is a good tough college player but his limitations are a big issue. I am all for guys staying but I am fine with Briscoe moving on. He is not an elite point guard and would not be if he stayed 20 years. He plays a power guard game below the rim and would end up on the wing again. Basically good teams used him against us by playing us 5 on 4 leaving him unguarded except when he drove and they waited to block his lay up. This phenomenon is where Hawkins' minutes came from.

I appreciate his hard work and how hard he played but to think he is going to transform into a different player is just not realistic. In the current college basketball environment if you recruit a guard who is not a reasonable 3 point shooter he better be exceptional at getting to the hoop like Wall or Fox. Also, I haven't seen Briscoe making a lot of guys better. As was pointed out by someone smarter than me when he is in the game the team had to adjust to his game not the other way around. I like the guy and enjoyed watching him play but if he wants to make money he should just jump in and get what he can which will likely be good money abroad. I don't think that changes if he stays longer.

 

[JohnnyGentle]

The problem is, guys like Briscoe, don't think logically. He thinks he's better than he is.

Get your free degree! Take advantage of the blessing of that. But, we know he won't.

yeah you know what he's thinking you POS weirdo

 

[JohnnyGentle]

he can guard 3 positions and beat his man, but that doesn't matter

it's all about open shooting

 

[Wall2Boogie]

Well I guess that settles it he allegedly doesn't want to be here and thinks he's better than everyone, no need to hope he comes back and be an asset on this team, wevn though he played out of position most of the year, and played well most of the time

 

[bucsrule8872]

I don't know if he is the key, but I would welcome his experience next season with a team of mostly Freshmen.

Like to see him and Gabriel back most of all, because I think they can help themselves a great deal by coming back. If Briscoe comes back and run the PG, he could possibly turn that opportunity into a spot in the NBA. Gabriel just needs some more experience in order to get drafted.

Those two back and Bamba and I feel pretty good about us competing and making a deep run. That would give us a good 8-man rotation of 5-star talent.

G Briscoe
G Green
G Diallo
F Vanderbilt
F Washington
F Gabriel
F Bamba
F Richards

Not sure who would start, though I would say Briscoe and Gabriel would get a shot at starting because of their experience. Diallo and Bamba would definitely start. The fifth starting spot would be up for grabs. The way Cal likes length, I would say he goes big with Richards at the 5, especially with Bamba wanting to play the 4.

 

[Titles1]

If he's the key we're in trouble. I think he had more shots blocked than anybody in history.

 

[Real Deal 2]

he can guard 3 positions and beat his man, but that doesn't matter

it's all about open shooting

Luke Maye says hello. Not guarding him the last time I looked.
Geez, Brisce is not coming back and we can do a lot better. We have 3 guys who can shoot lay ups and also shoot better than him from 3 and FT's, guess what these guys are all over 6'6, Diallo, Vanderbilt, Washigton. All will play his 3 spot. I mean Briscoe is the greatest Player in history or the most needed player in history. We have to have this guy. Give me a freaking break. The guy was a detriment to the offense, he cannot play PG, he dribbles the air out of the ball and then he runs some johny high school play with 5 seconds on shot clock, that is all he can do. I hope he comes back but only as specialty guy. He cannot be true top tier 1, 2 or 3.

 

[JohnnyGentle]

yeah diallo is rick mount. that's his reputation. same with vanderbilt

willis left maye open, instead uselessly shadowing fox. briscoe came off berry

you make fun of briscoe for making layups, completely ignoring his ability to get to the rim in the first place. smart

fugazi 2

 

[Real Deal 2]

yeah diallo is rick mount. that's his reputation. same with vanderbilt

willis left maye open, instead uselessly shadowing fox. briscoe came off berry

you make fun of briscoe for making layups, completely ignoring his ability to get to the rim in the first place. smart

fugazi 2

I'll take my chances on them making FT or 3 pointer or even a shot other than a wide open lay up. Briscoe is a freaking Jr., take a look geniuses at his game last year and this year. You will see same guy, he cannot improve his shot that much, he was 15 lbs over weight the last 1/2of season.
Sorry but I will take my chances on 6 '6-6'9 guys who can finish. I am all for him to come back but as 6th or 7th man, we have already seen what he cost us this year. Two top 6-8 draft guys in Fox and Monk, our 3 guy is really a square peg in a round hole. Coaches aren't dumb, let him shoot, let him drive, he will make about 1 out 6-7 shots including layups.
Time to move on, love his heart but facts and truths are hard for some I guess, nostalgic for upperclassmen.

 

[anon_013cn8yrfncx2]

I don't know if he is the key, but I would welcome his experience next season with a team of mostly Freshmen.

Like to see him and Gabriel back most of all, because I think they can help themselves a great deal by coming back. If Briscoe comes back and run the PG, he could possibly turn that opportunity into a spot in the NBA. Gabriel just needs some more experience in order to get drafted.

Those two back and Bamba and I feel pretty good about us competing and making a deep run. That would give us a good 8-man rotation of 5-star talent.

G Briscoe
G Green
G Diallo
F Vanderbilt
F Washington
F Gabriel
F Bamba
F Richards

Not sure who would start, though I would say Briscoe and Gabriel would get a shot at starting because of their experience. Diallo and Bamba would definitely start. The fifth starting spot would be up for grabs. The way Cal likes length, I would say he goes big with Richards at the 5, especially with Bamba wanting to play the 4.

That starting 5 could not score 50 points a game.

 

[bucsrule8872]

That starting 5 could not score 50 points a game.

LOL!

You are probably right. The whole team probably averages in the 60's, but most teams would struggle to score 60 on them.

 

[darrellswift]

his game and more importantly his size just doesn't translate to the next level. he hates going to class. he'd rather be a 20 year old too small, not good enough guy than 21 or 22. he's gone.