If you're Mitch, do you have a replacement list for Cal?

[KMKAT]

KSR mentioned Mitch likes Gregg Marshall, but I'd like to think we could do better. We've heard Mitch wasn't part of the decision making, so does that continue with the next coach?

Remember Pitino recommended Tubby, then Travis or Pelphrey once Tubby sprinted for a plane to Minnesota.

Glad it's nothing to worry about, but I guess you have to have a list in place.

Does Mitch have a list in place for Stoops as well?

 

[mebeblue2]

nowadays i would think most AD's have a group of coaches they keep in the back of their minds

 

[JeffGoodmansVestigialTwin]

Well....we can't get Brad Stevens sense apparently He's a lock to IU

 

[thecatsareback#8]

I feel so bad for the poor SOB that follows Cal. Cutnets will be his only supporter

 

[Federal Cat]

I hope they have a good list of replacements and it's gonna be hard to replace him when he retires from Kentucky, but we don't have to worry right now

 

[Cats192]

KSR has said in the past that there's usually a list of 3 or so

I would think Shaka Smart
Greg Marshall
Miller from Dayton

I think Stevens succeeds in the NBA, but if he leaves he shoots to the top of every list.

 

[Calsarmy]

This will be the most difficult man to replace in the history of basketball with the exception of Rupp himself. Its going to be tough. Honestly probably a time to putting together a sort of a wish list. Your going to have a massive talent pool to choose from.

 

[Icecoldbrewdoggy]

KSR has said in the past that there's usually a list of 3 or so

I would think Shaka Smart
Greg Marshall
Miller from Dayton

I think Stevens succeeds in the NBA, but if he leaves he shoots to the top of every list.

I wouldn't want any of those except Stevens.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Gotta like what Shaka Smart is doing with Texas in his first year. I'd say the only question is, what is his recruiting going to be like at Kentucky? He's done it at a mid-major with great 3-4 year talent, but can he get the upper echelon of recruits? I'd like to think more than likely.

It's sad to think, we'll never see another coach like Cal who just blankets BBN with star recruits. Whoever the coach is next, the recruiting will be a step back.

 

[GeddyHoosier]

We'll give you Tom Crean. He should be available by the 2nd week in March.

 

[thecatsareback#8]

We'll give you Tom Crean. He should be available by the 2nd week in March.

We wouldnt want a coach to come in and overshadow Rupp and Cal.

You guys would be stupid to let Crean go

 

[LineSkiCat14]

I wouldn't want any of those except Stevens.

So who's your pick? You can't bother with guys like Izzo, Roy and K, they are at the end of their careers. Self will be late 50's by the time we need a new coach, not that I'd really want him anyways. Kentucky should be going for a coach no older than 50 when Calipari steps down. There's no where for a coach to go once he's at Kentucky, unless it's the NBA. So lock up a young promising coach, and you could have 20-30 years as a contender.

Plus, I'm not sure there's any older coaches better than the group of Smart/Marshall/Stevens.. You have some real young talent in coaching.. You take the shot with one of them. If it works out, you're talking the next Izzo/K... but at Kentucky..

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

I feel so bad for the poor SOB that follows Cal. Cutnets will be his only supporter

And Lmd.

 

[Calsarmy]

Truthfully we are really not good enough to attract a guy like Tom Crean. Wish we could have gotten him earlier in his career before he got so danged big. Its our loss though. All we can do is sit back, marvel, and watch that juggernaut Indiana.

 

[maysvilleky]

I see a scenario where there could be several prime openings within a matter of 4-5 years of each other (UK, Duke, Syracuse, UNC, etc.)...Is there enough top tier candidates to fill these slots?

I could see UK checking with Donovan to see if he wanted to return to the college ranks.

 

[WeWant9]

Hopefully Cal stays another 6-8 years and we can see how some possible candidates pan out. I'll be keeping an eye on Texas and Smart. If he can build that program up and compete with KU then he could be a possibility. Well just have to see how he does with a power 5 school with the spotlight bright. Would also like to see how Archie Miller would do at a power 5 school. As of now I don't think either would be suited for a blue blood, but a few years in the power 5 could propel them into a job like that.

I know a lot of people will say hell to the no, but what about Bob Hurley? He seems to be settling in nicely as a head coach. Like Smart and Archie he needs to prove himself, but he's off to a good start. As of now there isn't one stand out candidate, but in the coming years one could emerge.

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

All AD's have a "list" either stashed away somewhere or more likely just in the back of their heads. Filling the UK head coach position after Cal eventually leaves will be a nightmare. Both for the fanbase and the poor SOB that is dumb enough to take the job.

 

[USNNFOCAT]

We'll give you Tom Crean. He should be available by the 2nd week in March.

You're too kind, we couldn't allow you guys to make such a sacrifice. Really, you guys should hang on to him the way we hang onto our football coach...you're only 3 years away!

 

[.S&C.]

Mitch hopefully will be pulled from the next basketball hire like he was pulled from the Cal decision. You can't trust Mitch with our baby, he's already proven it.

Donovan if he's ready to come back.
Stevens if he's ready to come back.
Best
Available
Coaches
From
There

 

[JonathanW]

KSR has said in the past that there's usually a list of 3 or so

I would think Shaka Smart
Greg Marshall
Miller from Dayton

I think Stevens succeeds in the NBA, but if he leaves he shoots to the top of every list.

I think Smart builds a very impressive program at Texas, and is "smart enough" to not want to follow Coach Cal. The expectations will just be too high for anyone.

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

Mitch hopefully will be pulled from the next basketball hire like he was pulled from the Cal decision. You can't trust Mitch with our baby, he's already proven it.

Donovan if he's ready to come back.
Stevens if he's ready to come back.

Donovan burned that bridge long ago.
Stevens is in the NBA for good unless something really unforeseen occurs. You can have a career in the NBA for quite sometime even as a .500 coach.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Yeah Cal might be putting us on a pedestal that other coaches can't, and don't want to bother trying to reach. We might have to hire a dummy coach for 2 years, suffer through an NIT, fire him, and make a revival with someone like Smart. Fans would be so happy for at least the first few years, instead of trying to compare him to Cal.

Actually, Mitch should just propose that idea to the top coaches anyways.

 

[mktmaker]

All AD's have a "list" either stashed away somewhere or more likely just in the back of their heads. Filling the UK head coach position after Cal eventually leaves will be a nightmare. Both for the fanbase and the poor SOB that is dumb enough to take the job.

The smart AD's should have always had a short list in their back pocket, but I'm not sure they used to.

Events over the last several years have made this a must.

Just remember these shockers:

Tressel: Ohio State

Summitt: Tennessee

Kiffin: Tennessee

Spurrier: both FL and USC

Meyer: FL (at least the first time)

 

[.S&C.]

Donovan burned that bridge long ago.
Stevens is in the NBA for good unless something really unforeseen occurs. You can have a career in the NBA for quite sometime even as a .500 coach.

He did burn the bridge, but in this unique situation, I would let him make the contact and reluctantly send a helicopter to bring him over.

 

[Icecoldbrewdoggy]

Gotta like what Shaka Smart is doing with Texas in his first year. I'd say the only question is, what is his recruiting going to be like at Kentucky? He's done it at a mid-major with great 3-4 year talent, but can he get the upper echelon of recruits? I'd like to think more than likely.

It's sad to think, we'll never see another coach like Cal who just blankets BBN with star recruits. Whoever the coach is next, the recruiting will be a step back.[/QUOTE

Plus, I'm not sure there's any older coaches better than the group of Smart/Marshall/Stevens.. You have some real young talent in coaching.. You take the shot with one of them. If it works out, you're talking the next Izzo/K... but at Kentucky..

I think its clutter to even bother with wondering right now. Marshall doesn't have the personality to coach here and to say Smart has done great things at Texas is premature. They've already lost three games, and needed overtime, at home, to beat Texas Arlington. They could easily have five losses already.

 

[.S&C.]

Shaka has already lost 3 games, and it was almost 4 as they beat Texas school of the blind in overtime, AT HOME.



I think its clutter to even bother with wonderi g right now. Marshall doesn't have the personality to coach here and to say Smart has do e great things at Texas is premature. They've already lost three games, and needed overtime at home to beat Texas Arlington. They could easily have five losses already.

Plus marshal hasn't won with another group yet. Let's see what he does after his 100 year guys leave.

 

[Rhavicc]

Archie Miller would be solid, to me. Doesn't hurt that he's family to Cal as well.

 

[c1doc]

I like Shaka but I think someone said he never won a regular season conference championship at VCU...

 

[chevyman 50]

I did not know Cal was going anywhere to be replaced, Mitch may be gone before Cal..

 

[Mojocat]

We've heard Mitch wasn't part of the decision making, so does that continue with the next coach?

The only place you've heard that is on the fever swamps of the internet. I've given plenty of quotes in the past from Calipari, Barnhart and Lee Todd to the contrary, and no one can give any quote from any person involved saying that Barnhart wasn't involved. It's an internet myth.

Re Marshall, evidently a fine coach, but I consistently hear his bedside manner is awful. After BCG, doubt we'd go down that path again, if true.....

 

[Rush2112 UK]

Barney always has 3 search firms on speed dial.

 

[.S&C.]

The only place you've heard that is on the fever swamps of the internet. I've given plenty of quotes in the past from Calipari, Barnhart and Lee Todd to the contrary, and no one can give any quote from any person involved saying that Barnhart wasn't involved. It's an internet myth.

Re Marshall, evidently a fine coach, but I consistently hear his bedside manner is awful. After BCG, doubt we'd go down that path again, if true.....

I know for a fact it's not an Internet myth. It came out of pratts own mouth. There's plenty of evidence anyway. Why do you think Mitch is not in charge of basketball? Why do you think Cal directs all matters directly to Peevy? You cite PR talk from cal. Read between the lines. No big time AD gives up his best sport to an assistant unless that's the coaches doing. Cal does not like Barnhart. Talk to anyone closely related to the program. They will explain it.

I'm not trying to spin this into a Mitch thread but that's my take on that.

 

[ThroughBlue]

Would probably be in Mitch's best interest to retire/move along before Coach Cal.

 

[ralphdaltonfan]

A guy I like a lot and think would be an interesting fit--Chris Mack of Xavier. Always gets most out of his team, good postseason coach, good recruiter for level he's at and great in game coach.

 

[true blue1]

Only 2 coaches in my opinion could handle the job at UK as of now.
Donavon and Stevens.

 

[.S&C.]

I think we buy into Cals coach speak a little too much. Lots of coaches could win here with these resources. UK affords more recourses to win than anywhere. If you can win at small school, you can win at UK. The fans might be tough to deal with, but that's just the nature of the beast. Winning here is easier than anywhere on the country if you're actually trying (tubby).

 

[JRS_OH_Cat]

Gregg Marshall would be a horrible choice. He'd be in his mid 50s and in 17 years of coaching he's gotten to the Sweet 16 or beyond twice. He's basically Tom Crean.

 

[bthaunert]

I know for a fact it's not an Internet myth. It came out of pratts own mouth. There's plenty of evidence anyway. Why do you think Mitch is not in charge of basketball? Why do you think Cal directs all matters directly to Peevy? You cite PR talk from cal. Read between the lines. No big time AD gives up his best sport to an assistant unless that's the coaches doing. Cal does not like Barnhart. Talk to anyone closely related to the program. They will explain it.

I'm not trying to spin this into a Mitch thread but that's my take on that.

It's very common for AD's of big time programs to give up oversight of their top program to Associate AD's, etc. Here at Oregon, Jeff Hawkins, Senior Associate AD, directly oversees football. Hell, his title is Senior Associate Athletic Director, Football Operations & Administration. At LSU, Verge Ausberry, Deputy Director of Athletics (same title as Peevy) oversees football. At Kansas, Sean Lester, Depuity Athletic's Director (same title as Peevy) oversees men's basketball and football. I could go on and on with examples. Are AD's involved in decision making and such with those programs? absolutely. Are they involved in the day-to-day? absolutely not. The role of an AD has changed drastically through the years.

As for the question at hand, it's a tough one. I am not as enamored with Shaka as others are. Never won a conference title. Went on a miracle run in 2011 but has not made it our of the first weekend otherwise. There is just no obvious person out there. We've had some obvious candidates in the past with Cal and Billy D. One guy to keep an eye on over the next few years is Steve Prohm. Young guy, off to a great start at Iowa State.

 

[.S&C.]

It's very common for AD's of big time programs to give up oversight of their top program to Associate AD's, etc. Here at Oregon, Jeff Hawkins, Senior Associate AD, directly oversees football. Hell, his title is Senior Associate Athletic Director, Football Operations & Administration. At LSU, Verge Ausberry, Deputy Director of Athletics (same title as Peevy) oversees football. At Kansas, Sean Lester, Depuity Athletic's Director (same title as Peevy) oversees men's basketball and football. I could go on and on with examples. Are AD's involved in decision making and such with those programs? absolutely. Are they involved in the day-to-day? absolutely not. The role of an AD has changed drastically through the years.

As for the question at hand, it's a tough one. I am not as enamored with Shaka as others are. Never won a conference title. Went on a miracle run in 2011 but has not made it our of the first weekend otherwise. There is just no obvious person out there. We've had some obvious candidates in the past with Cal and Billy D. One guy to keep an eye on over the next few years is Steve Prohm. Young guy, off to a great start at Iowa State.

Not he same instance. Cal requested Peevy. It's totally different.
No one close to this program agrees with you. Pratt knows far more than you about this situation.

Just to add, Barnhart didn't give up basketball until cal arrived. There ya go

 

[bthaunert]

Not he same instance. Cal requested Peevy. It's totally different.
No one close to this program agrees with you. Pratt knows far more than you about this situation.

You stated this, "No big time AD gives up his best sport to an assistant unless that's the coaches doing" and you were wrong.