If we land Bamba and Hami comes back...
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The downside, is that IF that team (with most talented class ever) did not win #9... the ranks of Cal haters would greatly multiply.
You're telling me there's a downside to having the greatest recruiting class ever, potentially adding to it, and you're telling me there are negatives?
Ridiculous to even fathom that.
Haters gonna hate regardless if Cal has the best or worst class ever. Dudes forget that the Best class ever thus far (Michigan fab 5) never won a title and are still considered legends, yet Cal would be called a failure.
Most usually does not= best. And while I hope in this case that most makes for a great team, you don't judge "best recruiting class in history" based on volume of 5 star players, and you don't judge it until the players actually get out on the court and play. And sorry, but I'm skeptical about how many true stars there are among UK's recruits this year- even if Bamba comes, even if Diallo stays.
UK signed HALF of the RSCI top 10 in 2013, and another Mickey D AA to boot. But ask me which class I think was better, and I go with the next season, when UK went 4/4 with Towns, Lyles, Booker, and Ulis. A lot depends on distribution of talent, but if we're playing pickup basketball, and you offer me a deal where I get 2 picks, then you get 5, then I get the last 3, there are many, many times when not only would it be a good deal, it would lead to a mismatch in my favor. That's just the chemistry of a team sport at work.
I'm thrilled about what Cal has done this year to basically rebuild a team from scratch, but I don't lose sight of the fact that it's all about POTENTIAL, and not a sure thing that all these lauded recruits will make a great team. It's just not that easy.
UK signed HALF of the RSCI top 10 in 2013, and another Mickey D AA to boot. But ask me which class I think was better, and I go with the next season, when UK went 4/4 with Towns, Lyles, Booker, and Ulis. A lot depends on distribution of talent, but if we're playing pickup basketball, and you offer me a deal where I get 2 picks, then you get 5, then I get the last 3, there are many, many times when not only would it be a good deal, it would lead to a mismatch in my favor. That's just the chemistry of a team sport at work.
I'm thrilled about what Cal has done this year to basically rebuild a team from scratch, but I don't lose sight of the fact that it's all about POTENTIAL, and not a sure thing that all these lauded recruits will make a great team. It's just not that easy.
I was just thinking along the lines of the OP,would we have 5 of the top 12? It would be a no contest for the GOAT in modern times(maybe going back to the Lew Alcindor days of UCLA)
It probably won't work out that way (Diallo likely stays in the draft) but as was proven yesterday never say never.Cal and the U19 team takes on a whole new level of interest for us this summer.How many more rabbits does Cal have in his damn hat anyway
It probably won't work out that way (Diallo likely stays in the draft) but as was proven yesterday never say never.Cal and the U19 team takes on a whole new level of interest for us this summer.How many more rabbits does Cal have in his damn hat anyway
4 of the 6 players from the 2013 class stayed until the next season, to build that 2015 team along with towns, lyles, booker and ulis. The season before that we also went to the title game, further than we went in the next season. I don't really understand your take
Good gawd...lighten the Eff up...can't I guy make a little joke about "the haters"?
titles and toe are already alluding to that (Cal can't win #9)...
UMM your are the last person to complain about anyone else's posts
and they are all Freshman...to just think they are automatic to the final game team is crazy to me.
That wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. UNCheat lost 7 this year. We had 10 losses before making the title game.
We will be the favorites to win it all. The 14 class had a bit of a chemistry problem at first alot of people forget even a little tension previously between Randle and the twins Cal brought them together. Green is the key Cal has figured out ask the other guys who do you want for pg and I will go get him. Green Diallo Bamba Knox and Washington are all tight off the court and Bamba and Green are tight on and off the court. Diallo will have a experience head start the friendship will bring built in chemistry and a willingness to play servant leadership ball. Biggest difference between this team and 14 is this team will have elite defenders at every position. The Harrison played hard d but sometimes struggled James young was terrible.
Thats ludicrous!!!!!! No reason whatsoever to think we lose 7 or 8....it may happen but stupid to predict
Wiggins was the #1 SF but UK did sign the #1 Center, PF and both guard spots
I wouldn't care if we lost all games, except sec tourney to get in tourney, then tourney.
LMFAO, "it may happen, but stupid to predict". Did you think about that before you posted, or after?
The entire team is going to be freshman and sophomores, yeah, they're going to lose some games 7-8 games is a damn good prediction.
But your comment is, well, confusing.
I think @mj2k10 answered it pretty well.
Based strictly on volume of high level players, it might rank first.
But is it really better than a class of Towns/Ulis/Booker/Lyles?
AD/MKG/Teague/Wiltjer?
Wall/Cousins/Bledsoe/Orton?
If you were given the chance to trade next year's class for one of those above, would you do it?
As of now, I would in all three cases. But I hope I'm wrong by April.
It's a historic class if you believe all 5 stars are created equal, but they're not.
This class isn't considered strong, and our impressiveness is in depth, not star power at the top. Stars usually win titles.
It's an excellent foundation going forward, however. Keep a couple of these guys and add 2-3 studs for 18-19 and we're looking at a monster team.
This class isn't considered strong, and our impressiveness is in depth, not star power at the top. Stars usually win titles.
It's an excellent foundation going forward, however. Keep a couple of these guys and add 2-3 studs for 18-19 and we're looking at a monster team.
With so many of the incoming players being good friends, they'll have some chemistry already built in, which might help offset some of the youth early on. With that being said, teams better get UK early on, because this team will be an extremely tough out come March.
I'd take Towns/Lyles/Ulis/Booker until further notice but this years squad seems deeper and more complete at every spot. Excited to see how it all takes shape
You would now seeing how well they played at UK and in the NBA now but nobody could see that coming. Ulis and Booker way outperformed their HS rankings which is what I judge incoming classes by. By that metric it would take something crazy to surpass'13. Kat and his group fit in perfectly with the returnees just like AD's class did in '11.
Depends on how you want to view it. How good the players are perceived now? Or how well they develop over their career?
If now, the Harrison's, Randle, James Young, etc. class was great rankings wise. 4 in the top 10.
But not the superstars that Wall, DCuz, and Bledsoe are now either.
Depth wise, Cal's best ever. Easily.
See this is a misconception 2016 was considered exceptional this class is considered average not weak and it is a lack of guards not many elite guards although Diallo is one it is very strong at 4 and 5. Just not the other 3 positions after Vanderbilt not many if any elite pure sf. And he is a good enough ball handler to play the 2 so that helps as well as Alexander blowing up late if get Bamba we will have the guy most likely to be elite next level. U can not coach that length. Not a shot blocker like him in last year's class
I hate to borrow a phrase one of Little Brother's most thuggish groups used to describe themselves.
But if we do get both Diallo and Bamba there is a significant likelihood we will be Bad Motherf
ckers.
But if we do get both Diallo and Bamba there is a significant likelihood we will be Bad Motherf
ckers.
Out of all the classes in the history of the sport, it will be one of them.
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