If we have oscar on this team
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We would be much better with Oscar not only would he improve our rebounding and inside scoring he would lead the team by example.
Why stop there. Let's upgrade PG with Fox and SG with Murray and Sf with MKG and PF with AD to go down low to cover Oscar's defensive issues.
I was told Oscar (NPOY) needed to GO! All he did was clog the lane and we cannot have this nonsense because we are trying to do modern basketball.
I remember when Oscar won NPOY but needed to move on because he wasn’t an outside threat.
I'd rather have jamaal magloire. That dude was an enforcer and if our guys were playing soft and lazy as they often do, he'd set em straight. Oscars rebounding would be nice but magloires attitude and mean streak would do wonders for this team.
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But the offense would not be where it is if UK still had Oscar at the five. Oscar was a great rebounder and decent scorer but clogging the lane and playing through him just would not work with this team. This team spaces and Cal is finally able to run a modern offense through Tre
Give me Dominique Hawkins and Isaac Humphries. We can’t afford AD and John Wall.
Besides Oscar I can’t think of a overly physical player we have had recently that could help Kentucky
The OP is smoking some serious weed.
Oscar was better than Amari is in rebounding. Oscar was a once in a generation talent in that regard. He was better at rebounding than any Wildcat in the past 50 years. So that is not a knock on Amari. Amari is one of the better (top 5) rebounders at UK over the past 25 years. Who's better? Oscar of course. Cousins, Vanderbilt (when healthy enough to play), that's it. We all loved Hayes heart and effort on the glass, but when it came to it, Amari gets more rebounds than Hayes did, than Davis did, than Towns did, than even Randle did.
Oscar's biggest knock was his defense, in particular guarding the pick&roll. Williams may not be Broome level defensively, but he is a good defender. Sure he has lapses, almost everyone does.
Would I take Oscar over Amari? Probably, but in part it depends on what the team needs. I think we need defense more than rebounding, so the answer is not clear-cut.
I’d take Oscatmr over Amari in a heartbeat. Even though much shorter, Oscar rebounded everything. Seems Amari only gets defensive rebounds, and he could average 20 a game if he had anything near Shiebwe’s skills. Also, Oscar could hit a 15 foot jump shot and make simple layups. Williams can do neither. I’m highly disappointed in William’s ability to hit any kind of shot. I hope Amari turns it on the last half of the season, but at this point he is what he is.
wasn't good enough for ccc to recruit, but look how well he has played since coming to the SEC
have to disagree, Williams is not a good defender
he gets beat often, he lets smaller guys score with out even trying to block shots.
he seems like a good kid, but he was labeled as a rebounder & shot blocker,. he has demonstrated neither thus far on a consistent basis
Oscar would not have worked well under Pope at all. He had a career assist rate of 6.7% which is abysmal. Popes entire system is predicated on the bigs spacing the floor via their ability to pass. For comparison, Amari's assist rate is 20.8% and Garrison's is 20.3%. Amari also has a defensive rebounding rate of 29.9, Oscar's career average was 29.3, so actually lower. However Oscar definitely has the edge on offensive, his career average rate was 19.4, Amari is only at 12.0.
Lol.
He has demonstrated to be a good rebounder. You can claim otherwise, but the data says you are wrong (8.6/gm, 12.2/30min).
His shot blocking is "ok", 1.6/gm, 2.3/30min.
As for defense, that assessment is subjective. We will just have to disagree on that.
You are probably right. But Oscar's role was not to get assists. If the ball was in his hands Cal wanted him to shoot it, or "get rid of it" to a guard. I venture to guess in this offense he would have more assists than he did, but probably also many more TOs. He averaged 1.1 & 1.6 apg, and 2.0 & 2.0 TO/gm under Cal. I predict under Pope it would have been more like 2-2.5 apg, and 3 TO/gm. Sure Williams and Garrison are at 2.6 & 2.3 apg, but that is in playing only 50-60% as many minutes as Oscar.
You are right about the rebounding breakdowns. BUT... you also must consider the offense we play. Oscar was often (not always) in the paint or on the blocks, so in or near rebounding position. But in our offense, Williams and Garrison are often placed at the 3pt line, nowhere near offensive rebounding position.
If anyone from staff reads this, I would invite Oscar over to show the boys how to rebound. I would have him explain it and recorded for video study for all future Kentucky bigs. Oscar rebounding was elite for his size . He had a certain way of hitting, keeping his arms/ elbows/ timing, trajectory, what he was he consider important for timing.
If you want to create a library you would invite also Dennis Rodman for rebounding, AD for blocking shots, Ulis for PG guarding , . Pay those guys the trip , treat them with a nice restaurant, invite to the home game and have BBN honor them . At each game have a different guy to be honored by BBN and to teach the boys the secrets of the trade and record it for the program coaching library.
Learn from the bests to become the best.
This could be a good teaching but also marketing tool.
If you want to create a library you would invite also Dennis Rodman for rebounding, AD for blocking shots, Ulis for PG guarding , . Pay those guys the trip , treat them with a nice restaurant, invite to the home game and have BBN honor them . At each game have a different guy to be honored by BBN and to teach the boys the secrets of the trade and record it for the program coaching library.
Learn from the bests to become the best.
This could be a good teaching but also marketing tool.
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