Agreed. That would be more games than the NCAA originally took away from PSU.Originally posted by Smashcat:
Have a feeling if UNC forfeits games it will not even be close to the actual number of games actually played with Ineligible players.
You need to go back even further. It started in 1988-89. GBBOriginally posted by UofKBlue:
If you go all the way back to 1993 and end at last year (not sure when the cheating supposedly stopped) then you have 578 wins including 3 national titles, 8 Final Four's, and 3 Elite 8's (not including the years they went further than the Elite 8). That's quite a bit of vacating, there.
Originally posted by reignof cats:
You need to go back even further. It started in 1988-89. GBB
No,it started in 1956-57Originally posted by reignof cats:
You need to go back even further. It started in 1988-89. GBBOriginally posted by UofKBlue:
If you go all the way back to 1993 and end at last year (not sure when the cheating supposedly stopped) then you have 578 wins including 3 national titles, 8 Final Four's, and 3 Elite 8's (not including the years they went further than the Elite 8). That's quite a bit of vacating, there.
UNC*** submitted their most recent paper work to SACs. They included a chart showing fake classes going back to 1989.Originally posted by ymmot31:
Originally posted by reignof cats:
You need to go back even further. It started in 1988-89. GBB
Wainstein said something about that. There weren't good email trails going back before 93, that's why they say that's when it started. The shenanigans started under Frank McGuire, Dean Smith was his protégé.
You can get that info at JPScott's site. As for how it is determined? If a team uses an ineligible player, games are vacated. The full rationale is left up to the NCAA and they can be quite inconsistent.Originally posted by G-PIP:
How many games did UK forfeit in the 80s, and how was that determined?
Thanks. I'm sifting through that site, but haven't found it yet. There's a lot of information there, however, and Mr. Scott obviously put a ton of work into that site.Originally posted by preacherfan:
You can get that info at JPScott's site. As for how it is determined? If a team uses an ineligible player, games are vacated. The full rationale is left up to the NCAA and they can be quite inconsistent.Originally posted by G-PIP:
How many games did UK forfeit in the 80s, and how was that determined?
That will never happen. Syracuse got protected by the NCAA today...you think they did nothing wrong in the title season or 2013 final four season? Please.Originally posted by mkasten25:
Look at UNC's 'titles'
1924- FAKE
1957- real
1982- real
1993-in jeopardy
2005- in jeopardy
2009- probably safe
they could go back to tying UL and being behind Duke
2009 safe?? The WHOLE damn team was majored in AFAM. Sean May is all you need to know. GBBOriginally posted by mkasten25:
Look at UNC's 'titles'
1924- FAKE
1957- real
1982- real
1993-in jeopardy
2005- in jeopardy
2009- probably safe
they could go back to tying UL and being behind Duke
This post was edited on 3/6 8:15 PM by preacherfanIf you edit your posts, the mistake disappears! I've done that a few times!![]()
My bad on May. Pull the transcripts on the 2009 team and prove no one took any bogus classes before declaring anything safe. Cheated will be out soon. Good day to be a tarhole.Originally posted by preacherfan:
You got your years reversed. May played in 05.Originally posted by reignof cats:
2009 safe?? The WHOLE damn team was majored in AFAM. Sean May is all you need to know. GBBOriginally posted by mkasten25:
Look at UNC's 'titles'
1924- FAKE
1957- real
1982- real
1993-in jeopardy
2005- in jeopardy
2009- probably safe
they could go back to tying UL and being behind Duke
The 2009 team clustered in Communications, much like the 2005 team clustered in AFAM. I think there were 10 majors from the championship team. Nevermind that Roy said he didn't like the clustering in AFAM so he cut it out. Instead, they just found another discipline. Comm had a ton of irregular classes as well, but it wasn't within Wainstein's scope so it didn't get dissected like AFAM. The cheating at UNC was done on a very broad scale. AFAM, PHIL, COMM, EXSS, NAVW, etc. They honestly deserve to get nuked.Originally posted by reignof cats:
2009 safe?? The WHOLE damn team was majored in AFAM. Sean May is all you need to know. GBBOriginally posted by mkasten25:
Look at UNC's 'titles'
1924- FAKE
1957- real
1982- real
1993-in jeopardy
2005- in jeopardy
2009- probably safe
they could go back to tying UL and being behind Duke